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leebo · 2 February 2006, 03:08 AM

hi all
im new to this fine watch collecting but ive had me eye on getting a nice pre owned omega seamaster something like this

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...DME:L:RTQ:UK:1

i know its not as impressive as some of the fine watches on here but fairly nice all the same

question is what sort of price would i be looking to pay for a good pre owned watch also how would i spot a fake as ebay is full of them

regards
lee

JJ Irani · 2 February 2006, 03:10 AM

Hi Leebo,

A big welcome to TRF. As long as you are sure about the authenticity of that Omega, go for it. It's the all time classic Bond watch that's been around for over a decade.

Hope you enjoy your stay here on TRF.

Cheers - JJ

leebo · 2 February 2006, 03:12 AM

hi jj that was quick lol
ive been messaging the owner of the watch and he assures me its genuine but has no origional purchase reciept
also i could have it for around 400 pound

JJ Irani · 2 February 2006, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leebo

hi jj that was quick lol
ive been messaging the owner of the watch and he assures me its genuine but has no origional purchase reciept
also i could have it for around 400 pound

In that case, Lee, I suggest you ask around for the seller's credentials and some feedback about him. If you don't know the seller, don't do the deal.

Good luck - JJ

Rockrolex · 2 February 2006, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leebo

hi jj that was quick lol
ive been messaging the owner of the watch and he assures me its genuine but has no origional purchase reciept
also i could have it for around 400 pound

Lee, I would be somewhat careful. The seller has no track record as a seller. He's only been a buyer on a few transactions. The one plus is that he takes Paypal. Which means you can be insured if it turns out to be a fake. If you link a credit (not a debit) card to Paypal, you can usually get reimbursement from the card issuer if you dispute the charge with a valid reason. GPB 400 doesn't sound too bad, but you might want to see if you drive a better bargain (maybe 375 or so).

padi56 · 2 February 2006, 04:01 AM

I would agree with Rockrolex,£400 is about the going rate perhaps a little bit less.The only concern I have for a watch thats been worn daily for over a year,its very clean on the back and between the spring bars.But apart from that, box outer box, etc look fine.Looks like the plastic warranty card is there ask for picture of that with serial.

SLRdude · 2 February 2006, 04:09 AM

You can probably get one for less than 500 pounds.
A gently used Automatic Chronometer goes for about USD 1000 or so.

leebo · 2 February 2006, 06:02 AM

thanks for all the advise fellas i dont suppose any of u blokes on here would have such a watch for sale as i think id feel a lil bit safer dealing with u boys
cheers

Launch Mini · 2 February 2006, 07:27 AM

JJ might have a Breitling Crosswind for sale.

OH, If you stick around this forum long enough ( a day) people will start to treat you like a regular.

ps, If you go for the Orange Omega, post any pics with extreme caution.

2 February 2006, 07:35 AM

There are lots of fora with for sale sections, and there's a big Omega board over at www.watchtalkforums.com... and stuff always moves in their for sale section. Try Timezone, Watchuseek as well.

The WIS world is small and if you find the one you want to buy, chances are someone here may know the seller.

leebo · 3 February 2006, 12:52 AM

http://www.ttwatches.com/product.php?product_id=3754

i really like that omega but says its not got any papers or box even would it be a snide ??
i found that through mooching on watchuseek

Rockrolex · 3 February 2006, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leebo

http://www.ttwatches.com/product.php?product_id=3754

i really like that omega but says its not got any papers or box even would it be a snide ??
i found that through mooching on watchuseek

I'm not up on Omegas, Lee, but considering the source, I wouldn't trust it.

leebo · 3 February 2006, 01:35 AM

yeah probably right ... i have a trip to dubai coming up soon. would it be worth my while waiting to see the prices over there or do fine watches command top prices regardless of location

padi56 · 3 February 2006, 01:37 AM

Hi Lee just had a look of there home page looks very professional.They state all goods are 100% genuine.And they quote money back if watch not 100% authentic.That titanium Omega looks very clean they have a contact number
give them a ring to check them out.The price seems to be about right but just be a bit cautious.If you pay by credit card you should be covered against fraud.And if you are from that part of the world,thats even better.

JJ Irani · 3 February 2006, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leebo

yeah probably right ... i have a trip to dubai coming up soon. would it be worth my while waiting to see the prices over there or do fine watches command top prices regardless of location

Taxes in Dubai are at a bare minimal. If I were you, I'd be patient and wait for that trip. It would be worth it to get a genuine one from an official dealer.

When in Dubai, try out Ahmed Siddiqui...they are authorised dealers for a number of top Swiss watches and good deals can be had there.

Good luck - JJ

lurch · 3 February 2006, 10:38 AM

oops replied to the wrong thread, sorry

BruceS · 3 February 2006, 11:04 AM

Welcome to the forum. The watch looks genuine, but it's way over priced! $450 GBP is close to $900 and that watch, worn daily and being quartz, is probably worth $500-$600 depending on condition.
Cheers,
Bruce

leebo · 3 February 2006, 11:57 PM

hi ive found another watch that i quite like

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MakeTrack=true

what do u guys think also what would be the top price this watch is worth

cheers
lee

SLRdude · 4 February 2006, 12:39 AM

The non americas cup Seamaster like the one in the auction that you posted is probably my favorite Seamaster.
I like the applied hour markers with white gold surrounds and the applied logo.
I have seen one brand new at the dealer not long ago and it had an MSRP of 2800 USD or so, which makes me say that I wouldn't pay more than about USD 1500 for it.

One thing you have to factor in is that since the watch was bought in 2002, it will be due for a full service just about any day now. If you send it to Omega in Switzerland you are looking at an easy 300 USD plus 6 weeks or so with no watch. You might want to factor that into the price.

The watch seems to be legit. I'd ask for some better pics though. Ask for back side pics and look for the SN on the lug. Omega will NOT service that watch if the SN is missing.

One thing... that is a weird warranty card. Ask for a picture of everything that comes with that watch.

leebo · 4 February 2006, 12:56 AM

cheers comatox just sent them questions of to him so will see what his reply is

regard
lee

p.s
just found this brand new 1 for Watchfinder Price £ 1260 = 2,221.86 USD

http://omega.watchfinder.co.uk/seama....00/m3554.aspx

leebo · 4 February 2006, 11:32 AM

man this watch malarky is adictive as a crack pipe at first i thought ill treat me self to a nice basic second owner omega seamaster for around 400 quid to mark the birth of my second daughter now all of a sudden im prepared to pay 1200 quid for an omega with the white gold crown.. id like to have it engraved with the 2 girls names probably devalue it emensly but what the hell... allthough i must say i love that yachtmaster jj has i think it my perfect watch.. but im looking for a watch i can wear day in day out an im afraid id wreck such a fine piece as that

Rockrolex · 4 February 2006, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leebo

man this watch malarky is adictive as a crack pipe at first i thought ill treat me self to a nice basic second owner omega seamaster for around 400 quid to mark the birth of my second daughter now all of a sudden im prepared to pay 1200 quid for an omega with the white gold crown.. id like to have it engraved with the 2 girls names probably devalue it emensly but what the hell... allthough i must say i love that yachtmaster jj has i think it my perfect watch.. but im looking for a watch i can wear day in day out an im afraid id wreck such a fine piece as that

Welcome to the wonderful wacky world of watch madness, Lee. Now you know what the rest of us have been enduring for many years now, ever since we discovered there were more to watches than Casios and Timexs.

BTW, did anyone tell you yet that there is no known cure for this madness. Sorry to break it to you, but you will just have to learn to leave with this chronic dread disease. You, my friend, have become a watchaholic.

C.J. · 4 February 2006, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leebo

man this watch malarky is adictive as a crack pipe at first i thought ill treat me self to a nice basic second owner omega seamaster for around 400 quid to mark the birth of my second daughter now all of a sudden im prepared to pay 1200 quid for an omega with the white gold crown.. id like to have it engraved with the 2 girls names probably devalue it emensly but what the hell... allthough i must say i love that yachtmaster jj has i think it my perfect watch.. but im looking for a watch i can wear day in day out an im afraid id wreck such a fine piece as that

Leebo, I've had a couple of Omegas, they make great watches and I am a big fan of them.

The only problem with Omega is that you devalue it by simply buying it. If you get one get it because you like it and want to keep it. If you're getting one in lew of a Rolex, DON'T. It's gonna cost you alot of money and only make you want the Rolex more!

Trust me, I've done it more than once

. If a Rolex is what you want get it, it can take anything you can throw at it, from the office to the gym. Good Luck

JJ Irani · 4 February 2006, 03:58 PM

Leebo,

What CJ has said above is 100% true. If you're buying the OMEGA, then you will be stuck with it. Buy it only if you really like it and intend on keeping it. You will take a BIG hit on it when you try to resell.

The other alternative is to wait, have a little patience, save up more and buy your dream Rolex. This way, you will at least be assured of the watch you really love rather than investing in a watch that has very little resale value.

Choose once, but choose well!!

leebo · 4 February 2006, 10:46 PM

hi jj what do ya think of this price wise etc??

http://www.dream-watches.co.uk/frameset.htm

JJ Irani · 5 February 2006, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leebo

hi jj what do ya think of this price wise etc??

http://www.dream-watches.co.uk/frameset.htm

See my PM...full details there!

2 February 2006, 03:08 AM	#1
leebo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 37	omega seamaster hi all im new to this fine watch collecting but ive had me eye on getting a nice pre owned omega seamaster something like this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...DME:L:RTQ:UK:1 i know its not as impressive as some of the fine watches on here but fairly nice all the same question is what sort of price would i be looking to pay for a good pre owned watch also how would i spot a fake as ebay is full of them regards lee

2 February 2006, 03:10 AM	#2
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Hi Leebo, A big welcome to TRF. As long as you are sure about the authenticity of that Omega, go for it. It's the all time classic Bond watch that's been around for over a decade. Hope you enjoy your stay here on TRF. Cheers - JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

2 February 2006, 04:01 AM	#6
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,062	I would agree with Rockrolex,£400 is about the going rate perhaps a little bit less.The only concern I have for a watch thats been worn daily for over a year,its very clean on the back and between the spring bars.But apart from that, box outer box, etc look fine.Looks like the plastic warranty card is there ask for picture of that with serial. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

2 February 2006, 04:09 AM	#7
SLRdude "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Chip Location: Dallas TX Posts: 6,194	You can probably get one for less than 500 pounds. A gently used Automatic Chronometer goes for about USD 1000 or so. __________________ Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. Yoda, Jedi Master CHIP Member # 87

2 February 2006, 06:02 AM	#8
leebo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 37	thanks for all the advise fellas i dont suppose any of u blokes on here would have such a watch for sale as i think id feel a lil bit safer dealing with u boys cheers Last edited by leebo; 2 February 2006 at 06:03 AM..

2 February 2006, 03:12 AM	#3
leebo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 37	hi jj that was quick lol ive been messaging the owner of the watch and he assures me its genuine but has no origional purchase reciept also i could have it for around 400 pound

2 February 2006, 07:27 AM	#9
Launch Mini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: John Location: Canada, eh Watch: can I? Posts: 6,240	JJ might have a Breitling Crosswind for sale. OH, If you stick around this forum long enough ( a day) people will start to treat you like a regular. ps, If you go for the Orange Omega, post any pics with extreme caution. __________________ Something witty to go here. Member # 293 Last edited by Launch Mini; 2 February 2006 at 07:28 AM..

2 February 2006, 07:35 AM	#10
Atomic Guest Posts: n/a	There are lots of fora with for sale sections, and there's a big Omega board over at www.watchtalkforums.com... and stuff always moves in their for sale section. Try Timezone, Watchuseek as well. The WIS world is small and if you find the one you want to buy, chances are someone here may know the seller.

3 February 2006, 12:52 AM	#11
leebo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 37	http://www.ttwatches.com/product.php?product_id=3754 i really like that omega but says its not got any papers or box even would it be a snide ?? i found that through mooching on watchuseek

3 February 2006, 01:35 AM	#13
leebo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 37	yeah probably right ... i have a trip to dubai coming up soon. would it be worth my while waiting to see the prices over there or do fine watches command top prices regardless of location

3 February 2006, 01:37 AM	#14
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,062	Hi Lee just had a look of there home page looks very professional.They state all goods are 100% genuine.And they quote money back if watch not 100% authentic.That titanium Omega looks very clean they have a contact number give them a ring to check them out.The price seems to be about right but just be a bit cautious.If you pay by credit card you should be covered against fraud.And if you are from that part of the world,thats even better. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

3 February 2006, 10:38 AM	#16
lurch "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 8	oops replied to the wrong thread, sorry Last edited by lurch; 3 February 2006 at 10:51 AM..

3 February 2006, 11:04 AM	#17
BruceS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Sir Daft Location: Cornwall, UK Watch: Too many Posts: 2,464	Welcome to the forum. The watch looks genuine, but it's way over priced! $450 GBP is close to $900 and that watch, worn daily and being quartz, is probably worth $500-$600 depending on condition. Cheers, Bruce

3 February 2006, 11:57 PM	#18
leebo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 37	hi ive found another watch that i quite like http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MakeTrack=true what do u guys think also what would be the top price this watch is worth cheers lee

4 February 2006, 12:39 AM	#19
SLRdude "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Chip Location: Dallas TX Posts: 6,194	The non americas cup Seamaster like the one in the auction that you posted is probably my favorite Seamaster. I like the applied hour markers with white gold surrounds and the applied logo. I have seen one brand new at the dealer not long ago and it had an MSRP of 2800 USD or so, which makes me say that I wouldn't pay more than about USD 1500 for it. One thing you have to factor in is that since the watch was bought in 2002, it will be due for a full service just about any day now. If you send it to Omega in Switzerland you are looking at an easy 300 USD plus 6 weeks or so with no watch. You might want to factor that into the price. The watch seems to be legit. I'd ask for some better pics though. Ask for back side pics and look for the SN on the lug. Omega will NOT service that watch if the SN is missing. One thing... that is a weird warranty card. Ask for a picture of everything that comes with that watch. __________________ Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. Yoda, Jedi Master CHIP Member # 87

4 February 2006, 12:56 AM	#20
leebo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 37	cheers comatox just sent them questions of to him so will see what his reply is regard lee p.s just found this brand new 1 for Watchfinder Price £ 1260 = 2,221.86 USD http://omega.watchfinder.co.uk/seama....00/m3554.aspx Last edited by leebo; 4 February 2006 at 01:08 AM..

4 February 2006, 11:32 AM	#21
leebo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 37	man this watch malarky is adictive as a crack pipe at first i thought ill treat me self to a nice basic second owner omega seamaster for around 400 quid to mark the birth of my second daughter now all of a sudden im prepared to pay 1200 quid for an omega with the white gold crown.. id like to have it engraved with the 2 girls names probably devalue it emensly but what the hell... allthough i must say i love that yachtmaster jj has i think it my perfect watch.. but im looking for a watch i can wear day in day out an im afraid id wreck such a fine piece as that

4 February 2006, 03:58 PM	#24
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Leebo, What CJ has said above is 100% true. If you're buying the OMEGA, then you will be stuck with it. Buy it only if you really like it and intend on keeping it. You will take a BIG hit on it when you try to resell. The other alternative is to wait, have a little patience, save up more and buy your dream Rolex. This way, you will at least be assured of the watch you really love rather than investing in a watch that has very little resale value. Choose once, but choose well!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!! Last edited by JJ Irani; 4 February 2006 at 03:58 PM..

4 February 2006, 10:46 PM	#25
leebo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 37	hi jj what do ya think of this price wise etc?? http://www.dream-watches.co.uk/frameset.htm

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