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Old 14 August 2014, 12:39 AM   #1
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USPS help needed

I was set to purchase a "homage" watch from a fellow in Canada. He builds them and regulates them using Asian movements and seems to do a pretty good job. I don't own a Panerai and am not sure I like the look but have several customers coming in telling me to give them a try. So I figured I would get an inexpensive but decent "homage" piece and see how it wore and decide from there. The wife is on me about spending money as she wants a new kitchen and bathrooms yesterday, so I sent him a money order so she couldn't track my spending. I had one of my employees run up to the post office and get a MO and send it priority (knowing that priority mail comes with tracking.) Well it doesn't come with tracking when shipped to Canada when no customs label is required. Now it has been three weeks and he still doesn't have it. USPS says they have no way to track it and that Canadian mail is just that slow. Is there anything I can do other than suck it up accept that I lost the money and move on? I thought there was a way they could do an inquiry into it but they say no to me on the phone.
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Old 14 August 2014, 12:42 AM   #2
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Don't know if you are allowed to discuss these 'things' on TRF

And I don't mean USPS . . .
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Old 14 August 2014, 01:45 AM   #3
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considering it's only been 3 weeks, and you say that was when the money order was sent, I don't think that you should be at the point of panic yet.. Yes, USPS and crossing into Canada is that slow..
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Old 14 August 2014, 01:58 AM   #4
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My guess is its hung up in customs. Did you use your own broker, or was the seller clearing it? If it wasn't cleared through customs properly .. Eg mailed but not identified properly as to the contents of the package, you may have a problem.
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Old 14 August 2014, 02:26 AM   #5
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So he builds and sells fakes? If they are branded Panerai they are fake and thus dishonest. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 14 August 2014, 02:57 AM   #6
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My guess is its hung up in customs. Did you use your own broker, or was the seller clearing it? If it wasn't cleared through customs properly .. Eg mailed but not identified properly as to the contents of the package, you may have a problem.
I thought the OP sent a letter with a MO?
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Old 14 August 2014, 03:05 AM   #7
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I thought the OP sent a letter with a MO?
I stand corrected he did state that. Not being upfront with your wife will bring you negative karma
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Old 14 August 2014, 03:05 AM   #8
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I did send a letter and he does not have panerai on the dials or anywhere else for that matter. His entire website states what Asian movts, bands, and cases he uses and markets them as watches that are mechanical or automatic that are for budget minded people who want accuracy and not names. He prides himself on regulating his movements and being able to double the factory movement warranty because he tears wash movement down and cleans up any and all issues qc missed at the factory

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Old 14 August 2014, 04:07 AM   #9
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Letters to Canada don't take that long. Heck I sent one to Sweden and it took a week.

If you are lucky, your employee bought you a Postal Money Order...if that's the case, file a claim that it's lost in the mail. That way USPS would check if it was cashed (and by whom) as part of the claim investigation.

If it is some other type of money order, then you can claim with the issuer. So you have a chance to get your money back.

If it's been cashed by the seller then you'll know something, if it's been lost you'll get your money back.
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Old 14 August 2014, 04:48 AM   #10
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Your wife probably intercepted that envelope at the border. They're tricky like that
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Old 14 August 2014, 05:22 AM   #11
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Letters to Canada don't take that long. Heck I sent one to Sweden and it took a week.

If you are lucky, your employee bought you a Postal Money Order...if that's the case, file a claim that it's lost in the mail. That way USPS would check if it was cashed (and by whom) as part of the claim investigation.

If it is some other type of money order, then you can claim with the issuer. So you have a chance to get your money back.

If it's been cashed by the seller then you'll know something, if it's been lost you'll get your money back.
Sounds good I will look into it and it was a postal mo

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Old 14 August 2014, 05:23 AM   #12
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Your wife probably intercepted that envelope at the border. They're tricky like that
My ex wife did that with three months mortgage payments. That was a nightmare to fix but that's why she's the ex

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Old 14 August 2014, 11:38 AM   #13
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So I guess I was pre mature as it arrived this evening! Thanks for the input and I will find a better way next time I send a letter to Canada

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I won't be me sending this kind of letters to Canada

I rather save money to get something genuine . . .

Fake or look-a-like is not my way of living

I rather safe the money untill I can buy it

And cash out of hand . . . no 48 easy payments . . .

But hey . . . that's just me ;)
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My ex wife did that with three months mortgage payments. That was a nightmare to fix but that's why she's the ex

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Nothing worse than getting that call from the bank... been there, done that.
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Old 14 August 2014, 12:14 PM   #16
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Nothing worse than getting that call from the bank... been there, done that.
Sorry to hear this Tim
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Sorry to hear this Tim
Oh it's okay Marc, that was over 15 years ago. It was quite a shock though getting that phone call, I had to scramble to get the money fast but was able to do so. All in the past now and believe it or not I'm better from the experience!
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Old 14 August 2014, 12:50 PM   #18
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Oh it's okay Marc, that was over 15 years ago. It was quite a shock though getting that phone call, I had to scramble to get the money fast but was able to do so. All in the past now and believe it or not I'm better from the experience!
We'll we all go through some rough times apparently . . .

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Old 14 August 2014, 08:18 PM   #19
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I won't be me sending this kind of letters to Canada

I rather save money to get something genuine . . .

Fake or look-a-like is not my way of living

I rather safe the money untill I can buy it

And cash out of hand . . . no 48 easy payments . . .

But hey . . . that's just me ;)
And that is fine. I am really looking for a speedy pro to buy outright and never buy anything but a house on credit( put everything on discover and pay off every month) I just don't see the need in dropping several thousands of dollars on something I don't expect to like. If I do like it I will buy the real deal and give this thing to my younger cousin (14 yrs old.) But I want the speedmaster first and will need 6-8 months to save the coin after that if i want a Pam.

I had to sell my beloved supra to cover the mortgage and credit card debt I didn't know I had and get divorced ASAP. Looking back I was stupid to get married at 19 but man was she pretty lol. Not so much now as she is strung out on meth and pills.

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Wow John, that last post makes your initial one look like the least of your worries. Sorry such things happened - hope the next few years wipe those problems away.
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And that is fine. I am really looking for a speedy pro to buy outright and never buy anything but a house on credit( put everything on discover and pay off every month) I just don't see the need in dropping several thousands of dollars on something I don't expect to like. If I do like it I will buy the real deal and give this thing to my younger cousin (14 yrs old.) But I want the speedmaster first and will need 6-8 months to save the coin after that if i want a Pam.

I had to sell my beloved supra to cover the mortgage and credit card debt I didn't know I had and get divorced ASAP. Looking back I was stupid to get married at 19 but man was she pretty lol. Not so much now as she is strung out on meth and pills.

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Unfortunately most of us go through rough times . . .
I am really sorry to hear this sad news

Now luckily there are many Supra out there . . . and you'll find another one

Maybe a Nissan GTR ;)

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Old 15 August 2014, 11:37 AM   #22
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Unfortunately most of us go through rough times . . .
I am really sorry to hear this sad news

Now luckily there are many Supra out there . . . and you'll find another one

Maybe a Nissan GTR ;)

Take care
The current wife says no to sports cars to save my license as I had 33 speeding tickets before I turned25. And one was 172 mph in a 70 so I get to deal with a BMW instead.

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Old 15 August 2014, 11:40 AM   #23
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Wow John, that last post makes your initial one look like the least of your worries. Sorry such things happened - hope the next few years wipe those problems away.
Thanks and they are far behind me now that was 6 yrs ago and what seems like a lifetime now

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The current wife says no to sports cars to save my license as I had 33 speeding tickets before I turned25. And one was 172 mph in a 70 so I get to deal with a BMW instead.

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33 tickets at 25 . . . ?

So you must be really glad that the Supra is gone !

Gonna save you lots of bucks and an easy way to get PAM ;)

To be honest if I was a Judge and pulled up your records . . . I would have ran your DL through a shredder . . .

I am driving for more than 25 years . . . 2 tickets

#1 for driving 5 miles to fast in Hungary. But that was probably just a Police Officer raising money for himself . . . since I always use Cruise Control . . .

#2 forgot to change my car to the other side at night 15 years ago in Burbank, CA

And this is even 2 to much if you ask me

Not that I have to tell you anything of what to do but driving = responsibility

And most forget it until . . . .

But that's just my .02

Anyway the Omega is a nice one

Go for a 321 ;)
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33 tickets at 25 . . . ?

So you must be really glad that the Supra is gone !

Gonna save you lots of bucks and an easy way to get PAM ;)

To be honest if I was a Judge and pulled up your records . . . I would have ran your DL through a shredder . . .

I am driving for more than 25 years . . . 2 tickets

#1 for driving 5 miles to fast in Hungary. But that was probably just a Police Officer raising money for himself . . . since I always use Cruise Control . . .

#2 forgot to change my car to the other side at night 15 years ago in Burbank, CA

And this is even 2 to much if you ask me

Not that I have to tell you anything of what to do but driving = responsibility

And most forget it until . . . .

But that's just my .02

Anyway the Omega is a nice one

Go for a 321 ;)
Good attorney is the only thing that saved my license and I am ticket free now for 4 yrs. Thanks for the input on what model I need.

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The current wife says no to sports cars to save my license as I had 33 speeding tickets before I turned25. And one was 172 mph in a 70 so I get to deal with a BMW instead.

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