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Old 13 August 2014, 06:07 AM   #1
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Input on 94110

Looking at getting a 94110 and would like some input on it if possible. As far as originality goes, it all looks good to me. Case also seems unpolished. Some additional input is always appreciated.

What do you think?



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Old 13 August 2014, 07:32 AM   #2
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just some thoughts and i am sure others here will be able to help more.

- the first pic looks like it has some kind of filter on it. can't tell if this is a blue or black dial.
- the watch should have a silver date disc
- i can't tell the serial, but most of these snowflakes came with the earlier folded link bracelet, this has a solid link 93150
- the pearl on the insert looks very clean, and may have been replaced, again, tough to tell from that first pic alone.
- patina looks good, looks even
- lugs look thick, and again, tough to tell by the photos if this had been polished or not.
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Old 13 August 2014, 11:08 AM   #3
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Looks ok to me. Very nice blue dial and hands patina is good. You will see a lot of these with replaced pearls. Bracelet not original, but many people actually prefer to upgrade to the 93150. If its the original bezel insert then it will easily fetch 4grand. Goodluck.
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Old 13 August 2014, 10:31 PM   #4
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Thanks for response!

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Slight color difference between dial and hands, but could possibly be original yes? The insert (and pearl) looks to be original. I'm kind of surprised how blue the bezel still is.

On first picture, the "T Swiss T" looks a little misalligned. Could it be the plexi acting out?

Also, was the ETA 2783 movement ever confirmed as original for late 94110s?
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Old 13 August 2014, 11:39 PM   #5
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Slight difference between dial and hands pretty normal for these. May be a replacement insert, the font looks thin to me. I like it.
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Old 14 August 2014, 06:02 AM   #6
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I also thought the font looked a little thin at first, but comparing it I really can't figure I out if that is actually the case.

I see now the end links are probably wrong too, being 593. As noted before, the bracelet is likely wrong too.

I've seen some other 94110s using ETA 2783, while 2784 was without a doubt most common. Any idea why they didn't use the 2784 consequently (assuming 2784 was actually originally supplied)?
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Old 14 August 2014, 07:40 AM   #7
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Flat 4 insert so possibly replaced along the way.

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Thanks for response!

Slight color difference between dial and hands, but could possibly be original yes? The insert (and pearl) looks to be original. I'm kind of surprised how blue the bezel still is.

On first picture, the "T Swiss T" looks a little misalligned. Could it be the plexi acting out?

Also, was the ETA 2783 movement ever confirmed as original for late 94110s?
I think the crystal is distorting that because the minute hashes and 6 lum are also skewed.
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Here's my 1977 94110. This has the original insert for comparison sake. Ops watch looks like a stunning example. Looks all original to me. Insert Could be a replacement but is very nice regardless.
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just some thoughts and i am sure others here will be able to help more.

- the first pic looks like it has some kind of filter on it. can't tell if this is a blue or black dial.
- the watch should have a silver date disc
- i can't tell the serial, but most of these snowflakes came with the earlier folded link bracelet, this has a solid link 93150
- the pearl on the insert looks very clean, and may have been replaced, again, tough to tell from that first pic alone.
- patina looks good, looks even
- lugs look thick, and again, tough to tell by the photos if this had been polished or not.


Are you sure about the silver date wheel?. I have never seen a 94110 with a silver date wheel before.
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Old 15 August 2014, 10:58 AM   #10
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Silver datewheels can be found on late 9411's. Consequently the late serial 9411's also had the 2783 movements.

That sub looks all good to me.
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Are you sure about the silver date wheel?. I have never seen a 94110 with a silver date wheel before.
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Silver datewheels can be found on late 9411's. Consequently the late serial 9411's also had the 2783 movements.

That sub looks all good to me.

My 937K has a 2784 so perhapos not late enough - would that be mixed 2783/2784 ? Thanks!

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Im still not sure about the insert being original. There is a noticeable distance between the end of the font and the crystal and the start of the stainless. Hence picture where yellow markers areName:  uploadfromtaptalk1408069611959.jpg
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Thanks for response!

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Slight color difference between dial and hands, but could possibly be original yes? The insert (and pearl) looks to be original. I'm kind of surprised how blue the bezel still is.

On first picture, the "T Swiss T" looks a little misalligned. Could it be the plexi acting out?

Also, was the ETA 2783 movement ever confirmed as original for late 94110s?
These new pics help out a great deal. The watch looks very clean and a good find. I agree that the insert may be a replacement. Let us know if you end up purchasing. Good luck!
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