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Seaswirl · 23 November 2014, 01:11 PM

The itch has returned, and I've narrowed it down to these two. I like the GMT as I travel a lot and have international clients so the GMT feature would come in handy. The downside is the PCLs. I already have a SS Daytona so I might prefer a non-PCL watch to mix things up. The Sub might fit the bill as I spend a lot of time on the water. Not as sure about the square lugs though. Thoughts?

WJGESQ · 23 November 2014, 01:23 PM

Gmt.

Fiddler · 23 November 2014, 01:26 PM

GMT - just get the links brushed.

jagwap · 23 November 2014, 01:29 PM

For the square lugs concern, look to the SD4000.

I hesitated every time on the SubC. It's a great piece but my GMTIIC wins every time. If I could justify two so similar watches I would go for the Sub ND, as I like the symmetry, but when I saw the new SD4000 I suspected my GMTIIC was going to get flipped. It didn't and the GMTIIC stays.

So my vote is the GMTIIC: Different from the classically recognised Rolex, the SubC. i ware mine on a black and green national for stealth and a fun change down.

tkerrmd · 23 November 2014, 01:51 PM

GMT and it's great with the PCL's

floater156 · 23 November 2014, 02:11 PM

Sub. Glidelick is a game clincher.

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RolexRon456 · 23 November 2014, 02:12 PM

I was in the same predicament 1 year ago, went to the AD planning to buy a Sub C date and walked out with a GMT, to me it looked flashier and I liked the extra complication. The last 2 pics are of the GMT 1 year later with daily wear, PCL's hold up fine, no one can see fine scratches unless your eye is pressed against the watch under a bright light, and can be polished to like new at service time. My daily wear is work and going out, not rugged outdoor stuff. Since you already have a dressier/flashier watch in the Daytona, I might go with the more rugged Sub. But since I'm a one Rolex guy, I'd go with the GMT.

boost2perfection · 23 November 2014, 02:14 PM

Get the sub bc I have one jk but all seriousness the sub is more rugged and although gmt feature is nice.

ssultan · 23 November 2014, 02:19 PM

I'm a sucker for the SubC.

Seaswirl · 23 November 2014, 02:33 PM

Thanks guys. I plan on trying them on tomorrow and picking one up. I'm really torn between the two. Part of me thinks I need a Sub back in the rotation (used to have a tt sub I wasn't feeling anymore) whereas the GMT would be something I've never owned before.

Nycturbovr6 · 23 November 2014, 02:36 PM

I would go with what sings to you the most. I already own two subs so I would do gmt but that is just me

venom43 · 23 November 2014, 02:37 PM

GMT2c.....100%

Best modern 40mm Rolex made, IMO. Next would be 42mm Exp2. And wouldn't you know it...both GMT's.

bplein · 23 November 2014, 02:38 PM

I love my GMT-IIC. Go for it! I used to travel quite a lot between time zones, and the convenience of the quick-set hour hands is a great reminder, at least twice every trip, of what a great watch it really is.

In addition, I had customers and colleagues in Japan and Europe. Quickly seeing their current time when I was about to hop on an international conference call was a pleasure with this watch.

My current job has me mostly traveling within my time zone. I miss using the GMT functions! But it's still a fantastic watch, a stunner.

Le Chef · 23 November 2014, 02:42 PM

It's a no brainer - GMT. If you never travel beyond your time zone then the Sub is probably a reasonable bet.

T01 · 23 November 2014, 02:43 PM

Both are such great choices!

seand442 · 23 November 2014, 02:47 PM

I vote for the Sub.

sampelligrino · 23 November 2014, 02:49 PM

SubC hands down for me personally. Had both twice and ended up with the SubC as my daily wearer. The glide lock clasp and brushed bracelet are must haves IMO, watch always looks brand new and you can't see scratches on it until you hold it up in the light and inspect it closely. I also prefer the look of the Sub. Just my two cents.

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GT1 · 23 November 2014, 03:06 PM

Nothing beats the allure and sophistication of a freshly polished GMTIIC. Refined Masculinity....

sdiver68 · 23 November 2014, 03:14 PM

GMT With Sub bracelet, or at least brushed bracelet. GMT has all the water resistance you'll ever need.

Joearch · 23 November 2014, 03:50 PM

Had both for the last year. The sub C was getting very little wrist time. GMT BLNR was getting all the Rolex time. I got rid of the sub and kept the GMT. Ended up trading the Sub on a Datejust. Both are very fine watches. I have ended up liking the PCL. Good luck.

rolex_DateJust · 23 November 2014, 05:07 PM

SubC

B.B.B. · 23 November 2014, 05:28 PM

Gmt

Hairdude1 · 23 November 2014, 05:32 PM

Gmt

Polizeifritz · 23 November 2014, 05:44 PM

GMT is the way to go, hands down.

aleeboy · 23 November 2014, 10:50 PM

Am travelling now with my Submariner. I would definitely go the Submariner given the alternative you presented. It looks much better.

Racerdj · 23 November 2014, 10:55 PM

Go with the GMT and forget worrying about the PCL's.

gmtm2 · 23 November 2014, 11:06 PM

gmt

ap1 · 23 November 2014, 11:29 PM

How can one pick, two of the best

busytimmy · 23 November 2014, 11:29 PM

GMT

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fishingbear · 23 November 2014, 11:30 PM

Sounds like you need to get the GMT.

23 November 2014, 01:11 PM	#1
Seaswirl "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NYC Posts: 1,761	GMT IIc or SubC Date The itch has returned, and I've narrowed it down to these two. I like the GMT as I travel a lot and have international clients so the GMT feature would come in handy. The downside is the PCLs. I already have a SS Daytona so I might prefer a non-PCL watch to mix things up. The Sub might fit the bill as I spend a lot of time on the water. Not as sure about the square lugs though. Thoughts?

23 November 2014, 02:11 PM	#6
floater156 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Chris Location: Wisconsin Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,984	Sub. Glidelick is a game clincher. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk __________________ Lead by example through production.

23 November 2014, 02:12 PM	#7
RolexRon456 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: USA Posts: 440	I was in the same predicament 1 year ago, went to the AD planning to buy a Sub C date and walked out with a GMT, to me it looked flashier and I liked the extra complication. The last 2 pics are of the GMT 1 year later with daily wear, PCL's hold up fine, no one can see fine scratches unless your eye is pressed against the watch under a bright light, and can be polished to like new at service time. My daily wear is work and going out, not rugged outdoor stuff. Since you already have a dressier/flashier watch in the Daytona, I might go with the more rugged Sub. But since I'm a one Rolex guy, I'd go with the GMT. Attached Images

23 November 2014, 02:37 PM	#12
venom43 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NOR-CAL Watch: Grail Daytona Posts: 1,306	GMT2c.....100% Best modern 40mm Rolex made, IMO. Next would be 42mm Exp2. And wouldn't you know it...both GMT's. __________________ ROLEX:(116200)SS DATEJUST,(216570)SS EXPLORER II "POLAR",(116518-0073)YG DAYTONA,(116718)YG GMT MASTER IIc,(16610)SS SUBMARINER 50th LV,(16623)TT YACHT-MASTER ~BREITLING:SUPER OCEAN 44 ~JLC:NAVY SEALs ~OMEGA:PLANET OCEAN "LIQUIDMETAL LE" & (2201.51),SPEEEDMASTER PRO "METEORITE DIAL",SEAMASTER PRO GMT "GREAT WHITE" ~TUDOR:BLACK BAY(R)

23 November 2014, 02:38 PM	#13
bplein "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2006 Real Name: Bill Location: Austin, Texas, US Watch: GMT-IIC Posts: 398	I love my GMT-IIC. Go for it! I used to travel quite a lot between time zones, and the convenience of the quick-set hour hands is a great reminder, at least twice every trip, of what a great watch it really is. In addition, I had customers and colleagues in Japan and Europe. Quickly seeing their current time when I was about to hop on an international conference call was a pleasure with this watch. My current job has me mostly traveling within my time zone. I miss using the GMT functions! But it's still a fantastic watch, a stunner. __________________ Bill 1984 DateJust 16013 2012 GMTII-C 116710LN 2013 Tudor Black Bay 79220R 2014 Milgauss 116400 Wife: 2015 Lady-Datejust 179160

23 November 2014, 01:23 PM	#2
WJGESQ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 3,753	Gmt.

23 November 2014, 01:26 PM	#3
Fiddler "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: USA Posts: 128	GMT - just get the links brushed.

23 November 2014, 01:29 PM	#4
jagwap "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: China Watch: IWC IW389001 Posts: 762	For the square lugs concern, look to the SD4000. I hesitated every time on the SubC. It's a great piece but my GMTIIC wins every time. If I could justify two so similar watches I would go for the Sub ND, as I like the symmetry, but when I saw the new SD4000 I suspected my GMTIIC was going to get flipped. It didn't and the GMTIIC stays. So my vote is the GMTIIC: Different from the classically recognised Rolex, the SubC. i ware mine on a black and green national for stealth and a fun change down.

23 November 2014, 01:51 PM	#5
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	GMT and it's great with the PCL's

23 November 2014, 02:14 PM	#8
boost2perfection "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Shelly Location: Planet Earth Watch: 116520 Posts: 1,149	Get the sub bc I have one jk but all seriousness the sub is more rugged and although gmt feature is nice.

23 November 2014, 02:19 PM	#9
ssultan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Sameer Location: ON, Canada Watch: Submariner Posts: 718	I'm a sucker for the SubC.

23 November 2014, 02:33 PM	#10
Seaswirl "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NYC Posts: 1,761	Thanks guys. I plan on trying them on tomorrow and picking one up. I'm really torn between the two. Part of me thinks I need a Sub back in the rotation (used to have a tt sub I wasn't feeling anymore) whereas the GMT would be something I've never owned before.

23 November 2014, 02:36 PM	#11
Nycturbovr6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New York Posts: 7,630	I would go with what sings to you the most. I already own two subs so I would do gmt but that is just me

23 November 2014, 02:42 PM	#14
Le Chef "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,005	If you travel frequently It's a no brainer - GMT. If you never travel beyond your time zone then the Sub is probably a reasonable bet.

23 November 2014, 02:43 PM	#15
T01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: T Location: AZ, NV, CA Posts: 6,490	Both are such great choices!

23 November 2014, 02:47 PM	#16
seand442 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Earth Watch: 116610 Posts: 3,455	I vote for the Sub. __________________ NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT. FIRST THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL. THEN, THEY WILL BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE.

23 November 2014, 02:49 PM	#17
sampelligrino "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,207	SubC hands down for me personally. Had both twice and ended up with the SubC as my daily wearer. The glide lock clasp and brushed bracelet are must haves IMO, watch always looks brand new and you can't see scratches on it until you hold it up in the light and inspect it closely. I also prefer the look of the Sub. Just my two cents. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 November 2014, 03:06 PM	#18
GT1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: LA CA Posts: 34	Nothing beats the allure and sophistication of a freshly polished GMTIIC. Refined Masculinity....

23 November 2014, 03:14 PM	#19
sdiver68 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 118	GMT With Sub bracelet, or at least brushed bracelet. GMT has all the water resistance you'll ever need.

23 November 2014, 03:50 PM	#20
Joearch 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Joe Location: Los Angeles Watch: Daytona + GMT BLNR Posts: 4,852	Had both for the last year. The sub C was getting very little wrist time. GMT BLNR was getting all the Rolex time. I got rid of the sub and kept the GMT. Ended up trading the Sub on a Datejust. Both are very fine watches. I have ended up liking the PCL. Good luck.

23 November 2014, 05:07 PM	#21
rolex_DateJust 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Sergio Location: Miami, FL Watch: Yes please! Posts: 1,781	SubC __________________ ♛ 126610LV ♛ 16220 Salmon ♛ 126713GRNR ♛ 18238 Ω Speedmaster Moonwatch

23 November 2014, 05:28 PM	#22
B.B.B. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Emmanuel Location: California, USA Watch: submariner lv m Posts: 764	Gmt

23 November 2014, 05:32 PM	#23
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Gmt __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

23 November 2014, 05:44 PM	#24
Polizeifritz "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The garage Watch: SMP Posts: 145	GMT is the way to go, hands down.

23 November 2014, 10:50 PM	#25
aleeboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Russel Location: N/A Watch: N/A Posts: 755	Am travelling now with my Submariner. I would definitely go the Submariner given the alternative you presented. It looks much better.

23 November 2014, 10:55 PM	#26
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	Go with the GMT and forget worrying about the PCL's. __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

23 November 2014, 11:06 PM	#27
gmtm2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Italy Posts: 1,419	gmt __________________ forever rolex

23 November 2014, 11:29 PM	#28
ap1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,536	How can one pick, two of the best

23 November 2014, 11:29 PM	#29
busytimmy "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 3,745	GMT Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

23 November 2014, 11:30 PM	#30
fishingbear 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: George Location: Alabama Watch: GMTsSubLVEx2SDDayt Posts: 4,548	Sounds like you need to get the GMT.

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