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Divingdud · 4 March 2015, 08:38 PM

The early screw down winding crown evolved into the Triplock winding crown, complete with the additional seal. Now there are new model watches with complications and a command bezel, and I am puzzled how these bezels which rotate to set functions of the watch and in doing so must penetrate the watch case, still retain the watertight qualities of the Oyster case??

cop414 · 4 March 2015, 10:02 PM

Command bezel is on the Skydweller I believe? Not sure of the mechanics of it myself.

Alpino · 4 March 2015, 10:37 PM

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There's actually 2 watches with a ring command bezel.

. for YM2 all bezel action is external to the Watch, so there's no waterproofness issue. When rotating, the bezel turns a control ring that engage a groove in pusher A , locking it. Pusher B will then be locked by pressing on it , through a pin engaged by the control ring. The lock on those 2 pushers then determines how it'll works Inside, for programing the countdown.

. for SkyDweller it's another story. There's a stem that passes through a hole on the upper side of the case Under the bezel.
On each extremity of this stem there's a pinion.
Outside the case, this pinion is moved by the bezel rotation (Inside part of the bezel is notched).
Inside the case, the pinion is used to engage "special functions" by moving some other pieces in the movment.
This stem is made waterproof the same way the winding stem is, by using o-rings.

I hope my description is clear (english isn't my native langage).

watchwatcher · 4 March 2015, 11:50 PM

^^what he said^^

AK797 · 5 March 2015, 01:24 AM

Yup, same here, when the AD was showing me how the command worked on the SkyD it was pretty fascinating stuff.

Tri-Tip · 5 March 2015, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpino

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There's actually 2 watches with a ring command bezel.

. for YM2 all bezel action is external to the Watch, so there's no waterproofness issue. When rotating, the bezel turns a control ring that engage a groove in pusher A , locking it. Pusher B will then be locked by pressing on it , through a pin engaged by the control ring. The lock on those 2 pushers then determines how it'll works Inside, for programing the countdown.

. for SkyDweller it's another story. There's a stem that passes through a hole on the upper side of the case Under the bezel.
On each extremity of this stem there's a pinion.
Outside the case, this pinion is moved by the bezel rotation (Inside part of the bezel is notched).
Inside the case, the pinion is used to engage "special functions" by moving some other pieces in the movment.
This stem is made waterproof the same way the winding stem is, by using o-rings.

I hope my description is clear (english isn't my native langage).

Your English was perfect, but I need a diagram!

Alpino · 5 March 2015, 01:46 AM

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Hope this helps :

fmc000 · 5 March 2015, 01:47 AM

If you get a copy of the Rolex Magazine number 3 there is a great explanation on how the command bezel work and how to operate it. It's just fantastic.

brandrea · 5 March 2015, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpino

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Hope this helps :

regnant · 5 March 2015, 09:03 PM

Thanks for the detailed explanation. SKY DWELLER also has got a few patents and that innovative comand ring bezel must also become one of them.

Divingdud · 6 March 2015, 12:56 AM

Thanks all for info and detailed diagram.

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4 March 2015, 10:37 PM	#3
Alpino "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Paris Posts: 2,557	. There's actually 2 watches with a ring command bezel. . for YM2 all bezel action is external to the Watch, so there's no waterproofness issue. When rotating, the bezel turns a control ring that engage a groove in pusher A , locking it. Pusher B will then be locked by pressing on it , through a pin engaged by the control ring. The lock on those 2 pushers then determines how it'll works Inside, for programing the countdown. . for SkyDweller it's another story. There's a stem that passes through a hole on the upper side of the case Under the bezel. On each extremity of this stem there's a pinion. Outside the case, this pinion is moved by the bezel rotation (Inside part of the bezel is notched). Inside the case, the pinion is used to engage "special functions" by moving some other pieces in the movment. This stem is made waterproof the same way the winding stem is, by using o-rings. I hope my description is clear (english isn't my native langage).

4 March 2015, 11:50 PM	#4
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,055	^^what he said^^

5 March 2015, 01:24 AM	#5
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Yup, same here, when the AD was showing me how the command worked on the SkyD it was pretty fascinating stuff.

5 March 2015, 01:46 AM	#7
Alpino "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Paris Posts: 2,557	. Hope this helps :

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fmc000 Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Fabio Location: Como - Italy Posts: 4,811	If you get a copy of the Rolex Magazine number 3 there is a great explanation on how the command bezel work and how to operate it. It's just fantastic.

6 March 2015, 12:56 AM	#11
Divingdud Banned Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: UK Posts: 155	Thanks all for info and detailed diagram.

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