Suggestions for 2nd Panerai

[Overkill]

Hi guys!

It's that time for me again...

2014 was a good year at work, and it's time to spend some bucks on a new watch! I've had my PAM183 for a little over a year now, and I've really enjoyed it.

For the most part, I've been a fan of minimal watches, but now I'm starting to consider something different. Here are some of my thoughts, although I'm very open to change:
- I've never had a chrono
- I value the GMT function
- My wrist can handle a 47mm
- I generally can't stomach the Luminor's crown guard, but it looks okay on the left-handers

I was wondering if you guys could make suggestions for my second PAM? Looking forward to hearing your thoughts

Thanks!

[Watcheroo]

I was close to pulling the trigger on a 233 but got a call to see the 587. Ended up taking the 587 home. Sounds like you want something with a complication. Check out the 233. The 524 is also pretty cool in my opinion with a flyback chrono movement.

Good luck!

[Cru Jones]

317, 526, 580 or 615?

[Mastergreenhand]

I like the 514. 1940s case (no CG). Date. seconds hand, 47mm. Reasonably priced for a lot of watch IMO.

[Travelller]

Originally Posted by Overkill

...I've had my PAM183 for a little over a year now, and I've really enjoyed it...
- I've never had a chrono
- I value the GMT function
- My wrist can handle a 47mm
- I generally can't stomach the Luminor's crown guard, but it looks okay on the left-handers

The 183 is an excellent PAM and has the "less is more" side of you covered

For someone who's not into CGs, you're in luck as the past year was the year of the 1940 PAM Beefy lugs and a Rolex-style 8mm crown - what more can you ask for???

Ah yes, complications... . The 1940 represents the rebirth of the 6154 with very simple dials (base). The 47mm 399 was the first and the 587 / 622 (currently) the most wanted. Chances of finding any of those (at list price) is pretty slim... . There is one (...one!) 1940 with complications... serious complications! That's the 516, "Equation of Time" Pretty damn impressive and as far as complications go and @ €18K, pretty damn reasonable (for an EOT!) But ok, €18K is probably more than you had in mind... .




But if we go back in time, back... back... back to the 323! Based on the P.2003, you've got yourself a Radiomir with GMT and 10 (!) days PR A very nice, symmetrical dial with date at 3, sub-secs at 9 and a radial PR indicator at 6. With some luck, you may be able to land on for ~€9K

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/a-week-...ir-10-days-gmt



Good luck and enjoy the hunt

[Overkill]

Originally Posted by Watcheroo

I was close to pulling the trigger on a 233 but got a call to see the 587. Ended up taking the 587 home. Sounds like you want something with a complication. Check out the 233. The 524 is also pretty cool in my opinion with a flyback chrono movement.

Good luck!

The 233 is a nice one, but I'm still trying to get myself to like the Luminor look (because of the crown guard). The 524 is an interesting suggestions, as well. If I can love the look of a Luminor, then the PAM275 or PAM311 would be perfect!

Congratulations on the 587 — really nice piece! Too bad for me, it's limited to 1000 pieces and very expensive

[Overkill]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

317, 526, 580 or 615?

Not sure about the 526 for me, but the 317 I've definitely considered! Not a fan of the ceramic/composite look, but the movement is amazing so I've been eyeing the 275/311

[Overkill]

Originally Posted by Mastergreenhand

I like the 514. 1940s case (no CG). Date. seconds hand, 47mm. Reasonably priced for a lot of watch IMO.

Mastergreenhand, that's actually a very interesting suggestion! It's like it's been there right in front of me but I haven't seen it. Very nice, simple.

You know what else is nice? The 45mm PAM572 — 12-3-6-9, sub-seconds, micro rotor. But then they had to ruin it by putting "Automatic" on the dial. Come on!

[Overkill]

Originally Posted by Travelller

The 183 is an excellent PAM and has the "less is more" side of you covered

For someone who's not into CGs, you're in luck as the past year was the year of the 1940 PAM Beefy lugs and a Rolex-style 8mm crown - what more can you ask for???

Ah yes, complications... . The 1940 represents the rebirth of the 6154 with very simple dials (base). The 47mm 399 was the first and the 587 / 622 (currently) the most wanted. Chances of finding any of those (at list price) is pretty slim... . There is one (...one!) 1940 with complications... serious complications! That's the 516, "Equation of Time" Pretty damn impressive and as far as complications go and @ €18K, pretty damn reasonable (for an EOT!) But ok, €18K is probably more than you had in mind... .




But if we go back in time, back... back... back to the 323! Based on the P.2003, you've got yourself a Radiomir with GMT and 10 (!) days PR A very nice, symmetrical dial with date at 3, sub-secs at 9 and a radial PR indicator at 6. With some luck, you may be able to land on for ~€9K

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/a-week-...ir-10-days-gmt



Good luck and enjoy the hunt

I'd absolutely love a PAM00587 — "Marina Militare" What a watch!

The EOT movement in the 516 is really impressive and I really appreciate that kind of watchmaking, but it just isn't the kind of complication that is "useful," if you know what I mean. I'd much rather have a GMT or chrono, that I would actually use, instead of the deviation between mean and apparent solar time

With that said, the PAM323 is a hell of a watch! I tried it recently at the OP boutique in Beirut, and it's beautiful. At 47mm, with GMT, date, automatic movement, and 10 PR, it's a lot of watch and certainly high on my list.

You know what would be perfect? If Panerai would put the P.2004 movement in a 47mm steel Radiomir case!

A RADIOMIR CHRONO MONOPULSANTE 8 DAYS GMT ACCIAIO... hot!

[subtona]

If you are a fan of the Radiomir style, and can handle 47mm

I recommend the 232, it is in a class by itself and it seems the prices have come down a bit.
find one for wearing, not a safe queen.

[Overkill]

Originally Posted by subtona

If you are a fan of the Radiomir style, and can handle 47mm

I recommend the 232, it is in a class by itself and it seems the prices have come down a bit.
find one for wearing, not a safe queen.

Yes, I wouldn't mind flipping the 183 for a 232! Just a matter of finding the right one at the right price.