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hitokirishinji · 21 March 2015, 08:48 AM

Hi folks,

New to the forum here. I'm a long time horophile but just recently started to appreciate rolex a bit more when I snapped up a Tudor Submariner and my grandmother's old oyster perpetual was given to me.

Anyways this old watch from my grandmother is in rough shape. It has a cracked crystal, discolored dial and isn't winding. I took to a reputable watchmaker in the area who has a Rolex parts account. He suggested I either leave the dial as is or search for a used replacement part.

Would replacing this dial turn it into a "fraken" watch in most collectors opinion? Should I just leave the discolored dial in? It's a 6917 26 mm. Sorry for the terrible picture quality.

crowncollection · 21 March 2015, 10:33 AM

It would not effect value on that particular model it would likely increase value IMHO

linesiders · 21 March 2015, 11:36 AM

Let's see the Tudor sub ')

Finding a suitable factory ladies dial for that piece would be fine.

hitokirishinji · 21 March 2015, 02:47 PM

Turns out the movement looks pretty solid so it's not as in bad shape as I assumed.

hitokirishinji · 21 March 2015, 02:48 PM

Oops forgot to attach the pictures.

hitokirishinji · 21 March 2015, 03:07 PM

Here's a picture of the Tudor. When I get it back I'll post a few more. it's a 75090 midsize with a sapphire glass. Still looks great and will be running well when it comes back from service.

R.W.T. · 21 March 2015, 08:33 PM

The good thing is all those dials interchange. They are all without feet and snap over...so 1161 2035 2135 will fit.

What type of dial are you looking for I have several.

eightbore · 21 March 2015, 08:36 PM

For a "family watch" I would absolutely leave the dial as-is and enjoy the character. Of course, replace the crystal and give it a full service. If one wasn't too concerned about value (as an heirloom piece) you might even have the bracelet stretch fixed (if any).

hitokirishinji · 21 March 2015, 11:51 PM

I would probably be looking for a replacement dial as close as possible to the original. I know it's hard to tell but it's actually a blue dial with gold markers.

It's unclear how the watch was damaged but we suspect it was water damage from firefighters. The watch was in a tragic house fire.

motoikkyu · 22 March 2015, 02:00 AM

As others have said, it only really becomes a factor when the watch is worn or sold. If you purchase a year-appropriate dial on the secondary market, you don't have to give up your original dial. It's a relatively easy operation for most watchmakers to switch the dial. If the replacement dial is year/model appropriate, I personally would NOT consider it an act of "frankenification".

Lgear080 · 22 March 2015, 02:12 AM

That watch would be great to send to mike young. A fresh authentic dial can be had for $100, and a band repair is mandatory.

hitokirishinji · 22 March 2015, 03:51 AM

Any advice on authenticating dials? I see a lot of them online but I don't know if there's a way to verify a genuine rolex dial from that time period.

I'm not planning to sell it really but rather give it to my mother since it was her mother's watch. Eventually it may come to my wife when the time comes.

R.W.T. · 22 March 2015, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitokirishinji

I would probably be looking for a replacement dial as close as possible to the original. I know it's hard to tell but it's actually a blue dial with gold markers.

It's unclear how the watch was damaged but we suspect it was water damage from firefighters. The watch was in a tragic house fire.

Hi, let me check and see what we have. We have a lot of take off dials from the 70's 80's. Dials are up the road a few miles at the shop I won't get there till later in the week.

I can also service that watch for you and install the dial or just sell the dial to you either way.

I probably have a good hands as well.

JohnBaker3 · 22 March 2015, 09:21 AM

Replacing a dial on a Ladies Datejust is pretty straight forward.

My wife's 69173 came with a dark blue/purple dial that seemed somewhat gloomy and dated....

Tracked down a nice Champagne Drapery Dial plus a diamond bezel; I'm happy and she's estatic....

Only took my watchmaker about 20 minutes for the whole change-over.

Life is good....

Lgear080 · 22 March 2015, 07:35 PM

Just post some off Ebay and we will tell you what is legit. Most mother of pearls
Are not as a rule of thumb. The bracelet is wasted unless you send it to mike.
Anyone else can handle the head, dial, acrylic and service.

hitokirishinji · 24 March 2015, 10:30 AM

I came across this one on ebay. Does this look legit at all? Does it look appropriate with the watch?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Ladies...item4adc22a2af

21 March 2015, 08:48 AM	#1
hitokirishinji "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Washington DC Posts: 8	replacing a dial? Hi folks, New to the forum here. I'm a long time horophile but just recently started to appreciate rolex a bit more when I snapped up a Tudor Submariner and my grandmother's old oyster perpetual was given to me. Anyways this old watch from my grandmother is in rough shape. It has a cracked crystal, discolored dial and isn't winding. I took to a reputable watchmaker in the area who has a Rolex parts account. He suggested I either leave the dial as is or search for a used replacement part. Would replacing this dial turn it into a "fraken" watch in most collectors opinion? Should I just leave the discolored dial in? It's a 6917 26 mm. Sorry for the terrible picture quality. Attached Images

21 March 2015, 10:33 AM	#2
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	It would not effect value on that particular model it would likely increase value IMHO __________________ watches many

21 March 2015, 11:36 AM	#3
linesiders 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,503	Let's see the Tudor sub ') Finding a suitable factory ladies dial for that piece would be fine. __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

21 March 2015, 02:48 PM	#5
hitokirishinji "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Washington DC Posts: 8	Oops forgot to attach the pictures. Attached Images

21 March 2015, 03:07 PM	#6
hitokirishinji "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Washington DC Posts: 8	Here's a picture of the Tudor. When I get it back I'll post a few more. it's a 75090 midsize with a sapphire glass. Still looks great and will be running well when it comes back from service. Attached Images

21 March 2015, 02:47 PM	#4
hitokirishinji "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Washington DC Posts: 8	Turns out the movement looks pretty solid so it's not as in bad shape as I assumed.

21 March 2015, 08:33 PM	#7
R.W.T. "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,004	The good thing is all those dials interchange. They are all without feet and snap over...so 1161 2035 2135 will fit. What type of dial are you looking for I have several.

21 March 2015, 08:36 PM	#8
eightbore Banned Join Date: May 2014 Location: UNITED STATES Posts: 301	For a "family watch" I would absolutely leave the dial as-is and enjoy the character. Of course, replace the crystal and give it a full service. If one wasn't too concerned about value (as an heirloom piece) you might even have the bracelet stretch fixed (if any).

21 March 2015, 11:51 PM	#9
hitokirishinji "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Washington DC Posts: 8	I would probably be looking for a replacement dial as close as possible to the original. I know it's hard to tell but it's actually a blue dial with gold markers. It's unclear how the watch was damaged but we suspect it was water damage from firefighters. The watch was in a tragic house fire.

22 March 2015, 02:00 AM	#10
motoikkyu 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: PRJ Posts: 1,732	As others have said, it only really becomes a factor when the watch is worn or sold. If you purchase a year-appropriate dial on the secondary market, you don't have to give up your original dial. It's a relatively easy operation for most watchmakers to switch the dial. If the replacement dial is year/model appropriate, I personally would NOT consider it an act of "frankenification". __________________ "Do you like Breitling?" "I don't know, really, I've never been Breitled"

22 March 2015, 02:12 AM	#11
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	That watch would be great to send to mike young. A fresh authentic dial can be had for $100, and a band repair is mandatory.

22 March 2015, 03:51 AM	#12
hitokirishinji "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Washington DC Posts: 8	Any advice on authenticating dials? I see a lot of them online but I don't know if there's a way to verify a genuine rolex dial from that time period. I'm not planning to sell it really but rather give it to my mother since it was her mother's watch. Eventually it may come to my wife when the time comes.

22 March 2015, 09:21 AM	#14
JohnBaker3 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: John Baker III Location: Spring,Texas Watch: 1971 Red Sub Posts: 2,222	Replacing a dial on a Ladies Datejust is pretty straight forward. My wife's 69173 came with a dark blue/purple dial that seemed somewhat gloomy and dated.... Tracked down a nice Champagne Drapery Dial plus a diamond bezel; I'm happy and she's estatic.... Only took my watchmaker about 20 minutes for the whole change-over. Life is good.... Attached Images __________________ As I've grown older, I've learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing off everyone is a piece of cake.

22 March 2015, 07:35 PM	#15
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Just post some off Ebay and we will tell you what is legit. Most mother of pearls Are not as a rule of thumb. The bracelet is wasted unless you send it to mike. Anyone else can handle the head, dial, acrylic and service.

24 March 2015, 10:30 AM	#16
hitokirishinji "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Washington DC Posts: 8	I came across this one on ebay. Does this look legit at all? Does it look appropriate with the watch? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Ladies...item4adc22a2af

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