Fixed lugs

[dilligaf24824]

Hey guys,

I really like the military submariner but I'm not a fan of the fixed lugs. I'm not planning on re selling so will it be okay for me to remove my fixed lugs? Thanks


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[traf]

Do you currently own a milsub?

Logic would tell me that no matter your intentions, I would not destroy one of the defining characteristics of such a valuable piece.


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[nocrown]

do not remove the fixed lugz! sheesh...

[subtona]

Hahahahahahahaahhahahaahhahhahahhhhaahahahah

[dilligaf24824]

I don't. But I'm about to pull the trigger on one.


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[waspy1]

Originally Posted by dilligaf24824

Hey guys,

I really like the military submariner but I'm not a fan of the fixed lugs. I'm not planning on re selling so will it be okay for me to remove my fixed lugs? Thanks


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Hahaha. Please post pics of your mil sub and we can advise on whether it's a big deal or not.


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[nocrown]

more money than brains thread right here..

[dilligaf24824]

Originally Posted by nocrown

more money than brains thread right here..

You don't have to be a jackass. I was asking for feedback.


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[dilligaf24824]

I've seen plenty of people modify their watches. I'm not a huge fan of NATO straps and would like the option of swapping the straps and tossing it on a steel band.


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[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by dilligaf24824

You don't have to be a jackass. I was asking for feedback.


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one of the main reasons people love Milsubs is because of fixed lugs, and there aren't any lugholes on milsubs because of the fixed bars. they were made to be worn on nato straps. and cutting off the bars would significantly devalue the watch. especially since it would essentially destroy the midcase. tossing it on a steel band would require putting in lug holes or drilling out the case to fit spring bars in. there's plenty of Civilian subs out there that would suit your purpose just fine and at a much smaller price point.

I'd also recommend being a bit more civil, If you feel someone has made a personal attack on you here, report the post. calling someone a jackass isn't a way to handle your problems here.

[nocrown]

Originally Posted by andromeda160

one of the main reasons people love Milsubs is because of fixed lugs, and there aren't any lugholes on milsubs because of the fixed bars. they were made to be worn on nato straps. and cutting off the bars would significantly devalue the watch. especially since it would essentially destroy the midcase.

I'd also recommend being a bit more civil, If you feel someone has made a personal attack on you here, report the post. calling someone a jackass isn't a way to handle your problems here.

+1

& modding any vintage watch, esp like the above q-- ah nevermind...

[Vincent65]

It's entirely up to you, of course - especially if you don't intend to sell. I wouldn't. It's one of the things that makes it a MilSub, but many have been civilianised, so it's not a huge deal. After all, we're talking lugs/spring-bars on a watch here, not finding life on another planet.

[Vincent65]

...and 'more money than brains' isn't exactly 'civil' either, is it? That was not called for.

[dilligaf24824]

Originally Posted by Vincent65

It's entirely up to you, of course - especially if you don't intend to sell. I wouldn't. It's one of the things that makes it a MilSub, but many have been civilianised, so it's not a huge deal. After all, we're talking lugs/spring-bars on a watch here, not finding life on another planet.

Thank you so much for your input. I appreciate it, brother.


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[Vincent65]

Originally Posted by dilligaf24824

Thank you so much for your input. I appreciate it, brother.


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You're welcome - if you do buy one, and decide to have it done - obviously take it to someone who knows what's in their hands, and appreciates what it is, and can do a decent and sympathetic job when drilling out the bars. I don't think it's too demanding for a proper craftsman/jeweller/watchmaker.

[nocrown]

Originally Posted by Vincent65

...and 'more money than brains' isn't exactly 'civil' either, is it? That was not called for.

not entirely, no

[dilligaf24824]

Originally Posted by Vincent65

You're welcome - if you do buy one, and decide to have it done - obviously take it to someone who knows what's in their hands, and appreciates what it is, and can do a decent and sympathetic job when drilling out the bars. I don't think it's too demanding for a proper craftsman/jeweller/watchmaker.

Actually it's not a difficult task at all. When I purchased my lemania from a helicopter pilot, it too had fixed lugs. I wedged a flat head in between the lug and the miscase and the bar popped right out. I love changing up the straps on that piece.


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[Vincent65]

Originally Posted by dilligaf24824

Actually it's not a difficult task at all. When I purchased my lemania from a helicopter pilot, it too had fixed lugs. I wedged a flat head in between the lug and the miscase and the bar popped right out. I love changing up the straps on that piece.


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Easy then - just get your hammer out!

[dilligaf24824]

Lol


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[dilligaf24824]

Originally Posted by nocrown

not entirely, no

I'm sorry if I offended you, dude.


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[nocrown]

Originally Posted by dilligaf24824

Actually it's not a difficult task at all. When I purchased my lemania from a helicopter pilot, it too had fixed lugs. I wedged a flat head in between the lug and the miscase and the bar popped right out. I love changing up the straps on that piece.


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actually, i think using a flat head on a millsub would work too; in fact, the lugz would prob pop out even easier than on the lemania of urs... please let us know how easily the lugz pop out...

[dilligaf24824]

I'll keep you guys posted.


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[nocrown]

Originally Posted by dilligaf24824

I'm sorry if I offended you, dude.


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not at all -- i was just being facetious. no hard feelings and i am sorry if i offended u.... good luck w/ whatever u chose to do!

[dilligaf24824]

Thanks 😊


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[lukeeesteve]

Originally Posted by Vincent65

It's entirely up to you, of course - especially if you don't intend to sell. I wouldn't. It's one of the things that makes it a MilSub, but many have been civilianised, so it's not a huge deal. After all, we're talking lugs/spring-bars on a watch here, not finding life on another planet.

I wish I had more money that brains. If you aren't selling it and the value hit to you is inconsequential, I say do it. I honestly would consider modifying a $5000 watch so why not a watch that's more expensive if your budget allows it.

To some people here, they might consider you actions destroying a piece of history....but to me, the history of the watch won't change and each nick or mod you do adds to the story/milestone of the timepiece, in this case, customizing something that's yours that makes it more special to you. There are many historical pieces that have been modified to suite the owners needs. I'm just really glad you plan to use it than to put her in a safe for the next 30 years.

All that said, if you decide to do that, please preserve (do not damage) the lugs and bars as much as you can. There are ways you can reverse this modification should you back track on the decision.

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by lukeeesteve

I wish I had more money that brains. If you aren't selling it and the value hit to you is inconsequential, I say do it. I honestly would consider modifying a $5000 watch so why not a watch that's more expensive if your budget allows it.

To some people here, they might consider you actions destroying a piece of history....but to me, the history of the watch won't change and each nick or mod you do adds to the story/milestone of the timepiece, in this case, customizing something that's yours that makes it more special to you. There are many historical pieces that have been modified to suite the owners needs. I'm just really glad you plan to use it than to put her in a safe for the next 30 years.

All that said, if you decide to do that, please preserve (do not damage) the lugs and bars as much as you can. There are ways you can reverse this modification should you back track on the decision.

please explain to me how this is "reversible"

Originally Posted by Vincent65

...and 'more money than brains' isn't exactly 'civil' either, is it? That was not called for.

if you read my post I said he should have reported him instead, which is a much more civil way of handling things.

[linesiders]

Originally Posted by dilligaf24824

Hey guys,

I really like the military submariner but I'm not a fan of the fixed lugs. I'm not planning on re selling so will it be okay for me to remove my fixed lugs? Thanks


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If you are really serious and this is not a late April fools joke then no, if would not be OK to remove the fixed lugs.

If this is a late April fools joke, then, no, it is not OK to remove your fixed lugs.

If you are actually serious but the reason is that you prefer a bracelet then you can do what some have done and have someone modify or fabricate special endlinks for you that would allow you to properly secure a much more cheap and sacrificial as well as less important bracelet of your choice onto the watch without significantly reducing the value of your watch. Have you cake and it eat it too.

[dilligaf24824]

I'll look into that. Thanks!


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[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by linesiders

If you are really serious and this is not a late April fools joke then no, if would not be OK to remove the fixed lugs.

If this is a late April fools joke, then, no, it is not OK to remove your fixed lugs.

If you are actually serious but the reason is that you prefer a bracelet then you can do what some have done and have someone modify or fabricate special endlinks for you that would allow you to properly secure a much more cheap and sacrificial as well as less important bracelet of your choice onto the watch without significantly reducing the value of your watch. Have you cake and it eat it too.

I thought he was a Troll until I saw the Lemania Chrono he ripped the fixed lugs out of -.- no where near as expensive as a mil sub, but with 2 year production, and it being an actual pilots watch it's a damn shame.

[marcello pisani]

this job is very hardly " reversible " as when you take off the fixed lugs ... you will also damage ( more or less ) the original Rolex furrows in the inside of the lugs .
keep also present that milsubs were " civilised " in a time when they had probably less value than a standard 5513 ....
taking off the fixed lugs will probably decrease the value in the range of 40 - 50 %.