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cab56 · 24 April 2015, 03:56 AM

I wonder if this eBay watch is a bad fake, a good fake, or genuine?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Rolex-Sea-Dwe...item2ee0882dfd

Seller has a low feedback count and doesn't provide many details.

To me, the numbers on the bezel don't look crisp (for example, the 40) and the five minute markers don't look enough different from the one minute markers.

The first picture is from the eBay auction and the second picture is from Google images from a web page with news about Rolex introducing the Sea-Dweller 4000 at Basel 2014.

TRF experts? Any opinions?

thecentennial · 24 April 2015, 04:00 AM

Looks real to me, but I'm no expert.

teqp · 24 April 2015, 06:16 AM

I say fake. Should the LEC be that visible? Also, looks like he has only purchased items on the bay and not sold.

psv · 24 April 2015, 06:40 AM

The watch looks real to me, not saying that it is a good buy, that it isn't stolen etc, but the watch looks OK at a first glance.

Allforfun · 24 April 2015, 08:44 AM

Fake

subtona · 24 April 2015, 08:58 AM

Looks off to me.

The pics are terrible

Evad3 · 24 April 2015, 09:07 AM

Something about the way the ceramic insert sits in the bezel looks off

It's a difficult one, I would stay away

Jeffwb65 · 24 April 2015, 09:25 AM

Fake. Look at the crown guards. They are Submariner-C style, not Sea-Dweller 4000 style which are more narrow like the previous generation Submariner.

Chewbacca · 24 April 2015, 10:16 AM

fake.

bankerX · 24 April 2015, 10:29 AM

This watch is being sold locally where I live. Not sure if it is the same person but the Ebay item location is Albert.

By the way, it is also listed locally for sale.

cab56 · 24 April 2015, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bankerX

This watch is being sold locally where I live. Not sure if it is the same person but the Ebay item location is Albert.

By the way, it is also listed locally for sale.

BankerX, I found the kijiji ad.
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-jewelry-watch...ationFlag=true

The pillow and background look the same, but the watch bezel and crown guards are different. Same seller two watches? Unusual coincidence with two sellers?

bankerX · 24 April 2015, 11:24 AM

Yeah sounds fishy.

I sent him a message asking if he has the same watch listed on ebay and he responded:

"nope. its not my ebay - its a different watch - take a closer look"

Not sure?

bankerX · 24 April 2015, 11:25 AM

how many brown pillows are out there in the world?

Onikage · 24 April 2015, 11:46 AM

Lugs and more obvious the crown guards are wrong on the first watch. Second looks better but I wouldn't trust it. Never trust a man with a brown pillow.

Britexpat76 · 24 April 2015, 06:52 PM

The top picture is Fake. The second picture is a different watch which looks better but is the date when not starting to change at 8:36 PM........?

You need more and better pictures to be 100% but Ive seen enough to not touch them

24 April 2015, 03:56 AM	#1
cab56 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Chris Location: Canada Watch: many! Posts: 1,134	Sea-Dweller 4000? I wonder if this eBay watch is a bad fake, a good fake, or genuine? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Rolex-Sea-Dwe...item2ee0882dfd Seller has a low feedback count and doesn't provide many details. To me, the numbers on the bezel don't look crisp (for example, the 40) and the five minute markers don't look enough different from the one minute markers. The first picture is from the eBay auction and the second picture is from Google images from a web page with news about Rolex introducing the Sea-Dweller 4000 at Basel 2014. TRF experts? Any opinions? Attached Images

24 April 2015, 08:58 AM	#6
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,597	Looks off to me. The pics are terrible __________________

24 April 2015, 11:46 AM	#14
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	Lugs and more obvious the crown guards are wrong on the first watch. Second looks better but I wouldn't trust it. Never trust a man with a brown pillow. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

24 April 2015, 04:00 AM	#2
thecentennial "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Anthony Location: UAE Watch: PAM312M Posts: 67	Looks real to me, but I'm no expert.

24 April 2015, 06:16 AM	#3
teqp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Phil Location: SoCal Watch: 116613LN Posts: 3,052	I say fake. Should the LEC be that visible? Also, looks like he has only purchased items on the bay and not sold.

24 April 2015, 06:40 AM	#4
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	The watch looks real to me, not saying that it is a good buy, that it isn't stolen etc, but the watch looks OK at a first glance.

24 April 2015, 08:44 AM	#5
Allforfun Banned Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Uk Posts: 88	Fake

24 April 2015, 09:07 AM	#7
Evad3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Real Name: Dave Location: Portsmouth, UK Watch: 14060m/216570 Posts: 773	Something about the way the ceramic insert sits in the bezel looks off It's a difficult one, I would stay away

24 April 2015, 09:25 AM	#8
Jeffwb65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Tennessee, USA Watch: Seiko SKX009 Posts: 301	Fake. Look at the crown guards. They are Submariner-C style, not Sea-Dweller 4000 style which are more narrow like the previous generation Submariner.

24 April 2015, 10:16 AM	#9
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	fake.

24 April 2015, 10:29 AM	#10
bankerX "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Ahmed Location: Canada Watch: 116710LN Posts: 204	This watch is being sold locally where I live. Not sure if it is the same person but the Ebay item location is Albert. By the way, it is also listed locally for sale.

24 April 2015, 11:24 AM	#12
bankerX "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Ahmed Location: Canada Watch: 116710LN Posts: 204	Yeah sounds fishy. I sent him a message asking if he has the same watch listed on ebay and he responded: *"nope. its not my ebay - its a different watch - take a closer look"* Not sure?

24 April 2015, 11:25 AM	#13
bankerX "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Ahmed Location: Canada Watch: 116710LN Posts: 204	how many brown pillows are out there in the world?

24 April 2015, 06:52 PM	#15
Britexpat76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: James Location: Middle East Watch: AP ROO,GP FTC, YM Posts: 892	The top picture is Fake. The second picture is a different watch which looks better but is the date when not starting to change at 8:36 PM........? You need more and better pictures to be 100% but Ive seen enough to not touch them

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