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seantk · 13 May 2008, 03:43 AM

The depth rating on the new Sea Dweller Deep Sea is 3900m/12800ft, however Rolex states that this watch can withstand a colossal 2.98 metric tonnes of water pressure.

2.98 metric tonnes = 6570 PSI, which is the equivalent of 4482m/14710ft

Could the listed depth rating of the Sea Dweller Deep Sea have anything to do with this:

"The average depth of the Atlantic Ocean is 3,900 meters (12,800 ft). The ocean bed is made up of hills, mountains, tablelands and valleys just as on dry land."

Source - Click Here

or

"Average depth of the Indian Ocean is 3,900 meters (12,800 feet)"

Source - Click Here

Sean

JJ Irani · 13 May 2008, 03:46 AM

If only they'd made it to 13,000 ft, I would have bought it!!

roadcarver · 13 May 2008, 03:53 AM

What's the point of such depths? Will a diver be able to survive such depths?

JJ Irani · 13 May 2008, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadcarver

What's the point of such depths? Will a diver be able to survive such depths?

Nothing on earth can survive such depths.....except some very specialised deep sea creatures that have been adapted by Mother Nature!!

Markg · 13 May 2008, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seantk

2.98 metric tonnes = 6570 PSI, which is the equivalent of 4482m/14710ft

they dont say if it is rated in fresh water or salt water; perhaps that is the difference...

roadcarver · 13 May 2008, 04:00 AM

Thanks JJ. I guess its over engineered design is the explanation for the Deep Sea

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Nothing on earth can survive such depths.....except some very specialised deep sea creatures that have been adapted by Mother Nature!!

JJ Irani · 13 May 2008, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadcarver

Thanks JJ. I guess its over engineered design is the explanation for the Deep Sea

It's over-engineered for one purpose and one purpose only, Vernon - TO SELL!!

Jocke · 13 May 2008, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seantk

The depth rating on the new Sea Dweller Deep Sea is 3900m/12800ft, however Rolex states that this watch can withstand a colossal 2.98 metric tonnes of water pressure.

2.98 metric tonnes = 6570 PSI, which is the equivalent of 4482m/14710ft

Could the listed depth rating of the Sea Dweller Deep Sea have anything to do with this:

"The average depth of the Atlantic Ocean is 3,900 meters (12,800 ft). The ocean bed is made up of hills, mountains, tablelands and valleys just as on dry land."

Source - Click Here

or

"Average depth of the Indian Ocean is 3,900 meters (12,800 feet)"

Source - Click Here

Sean

Come on Sean, if you have one you haven´t swim with it anyway.

Jocke

Tony-GB · 13 May 2008, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

If only they'd made it to 13,000 ft, I would have bought it!!

LMAO!!!

seantk · 13 May 2008, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markg

they dont say if it is rated in fresh water or salt water; perhaps that is the difference...

I was curious as why Rolex chose 3900m/12800ft since the Deep Sea had been tested deeper (more pressure). I know there were posts that suggested the 12800 had to do with Chinese numerology, however I would like to believe that it has more to do with actual depth of an Ocean.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

Come on Sean, if you have one you haven´t swim with it anyway.

Jocke

If I get one, I will be sure to post pictures of me swimming with it

Sean

fear · 13 May 2008, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

It's over-engineered for one purpose and one purpose only, Vernon - TO SELL!!

Ya got that right! Soon the masses will start swooning at the ADs.

DSJ · 13 May 2008, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

If only they'd made it to 13,000 ft, I would have bought it!!

Remember they're actually able to stand 10% more than advertised. So, JJ, if your DS cracks on you when YOU PERSONALLY take it to 13K feet, I'll replace it for you!!!

jgreene1672 · 13 May 2008, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadcarver

What's the point of such depths? Will a diver be able to survive such depths?

A diver could never survive at the maximum depth for a submariner, and if thats overkill imagine the deepsea.

I like it, but your paying alot for a completely useless feature, but then again who really needs a rolex...?

DSJ · 13 May 2008, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jgreene1672

but your paying alot for a completely useless feature, but then again who really needs a rolex...?

You said it! Something that doesn't keep as good a time as your cell phone could be considered a useless feature, yet we pay thousands!!!

I love Rolex!

seantk · 13 May 2008, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgreene1672

A diver could never survive at the maximum depth for a submariner, and if thats overkill imagine the deepsea.

I like it, but your paying alot for a completely useless feature, but then again who really needs a rolex...?

There have been Scuba dives in excess of 1000ft (1027ft) and a Navy diver has been to 2000ft using an atmospheric dive suit (ADS). Both of these dives would exceed the depth rating of the Submariner

Scuba Deep Dive - Click Here

Navy Dive with ADS - Click Here

Sean

DSJ · 13 May 2008, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seantk

There have been Scuba dives in excess of 1000ft (1027ft) and a Navy diver has been to 2000ft using an atmospheric dive suit (ADS). Both of these dives would exceed the depth rating of the Submariner

Scuba Deep Dive - Click Here

Navy Dive with ADS - Click Here

Sean

So we can safely say that the Submariner (or SMP) can handle anything a SCUBA diver would encounter, whereas a SD would be able to withstand any free dive. The DS would be able to withstand being dropped to the bottom of many areas of the ocean.

rescue7 · 13 May 2008, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSJ

Remember they're actually able to stand 10% more than advertised. So, JJ, if your DS cracks on you when YOU PERSONALLY take it to 13K feet, I'll replace it for you!!!

According to the watchmaker that works at the local AD I frequent, he stated that it was tested and made it to 5000m.
He was one of few invited to Baselworld grat and got a tour of the Rolex facility in Geneva.
He also saw stockpiles of S/S Daytona's sitting there, waiting to be sent to all the AD's. He could not believe his eyes, he also saw lots of Milgauss GV's.

Aqua fobic · 13 May 2008, 05:46 AM

Believe it or not 3900m is not that deep. I know that sounds daft but the ROVs on some of the vessels I work on regulaly work at depths of 2500m especialy of the coast of west Africa.
They have a depth rating of 3000m and thats with a safety factor built in so I dare say, with a nudge in the right direction they could go deeper.
Oh and these are between 5 and 10 years old so technology has moved on since then.
Mixed gas divers on the other hand do work at depths of 250m sometimes 300+ but the practicalities of these depths make it uneconomical to do so. The main problem is you have to reduce the amount of Oxygen in the mix from the normal 21% we breath now down to around 1% @ 300m. The body can stand greater depths, after all we are 90% water anyway, its the reduction of Oxygen thats the limiting factor.

Having said all that at least the DSSD is safe in the shower

topcat30093 · 13 May 2008, 07:31 AM

Thanks for doing the maths

Nice info.

llamaofdoom · 13 May 2008, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadcarver

What's the point of such depths? Will a diver be able to survive such depths?

No reason, other than because it's cool.

eric23 · 13 May 2008, 07:50 AM

Thanks for the info, Now I really want one.

Does anyone know when they will be hitting the store self’s in Canada?

Eric

jgreene1672 · 13 May 2008, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seantk

There have been Scuba dives in excess of 1000ft (1027ft) and a Navy diver has been to 2000ft using an atmospheric dive suit (ADS). Both of these dives would exceed the depth rating of the Submariner

Scuba Deep Dive - Click Here

Navy Dive with ADS - Click Here

Sean

The first dive was only 313m and knowing rolex I doubt my sub would die at just 13 meters over, and as for the second good luck getting a watch to fit over your arm.

BiG JeEzY · 13 May 2008, 11:24 AM

Just imagine the Bell and Ross Hydormax which is water resistant to 11,000 meters or over 30,000 feet. Talk about marketing to the extreme! Is there even any ocean that goes down that deep?

That Hydromax watch can probably go all the way into the crust or mantle of the Earth and still function.

1MAC · 13 May 2008, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markg

they dont say if it is rated in fresh water or salt water; perhaps that is the difference...

We have a winner! Salt water is more dense than fresh water. I bet that's why they rate them so. It's always nice to float in ocean water and enjoy the greater bouyancy.

BiG JeEzY · 13 May 2008, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiG JeEzY

Just imagine the Bell and Ross Hydormax which is water resistant to 11,000 meters or over 30,000 feet. Talk about marketing to the extreme! Is there even any ocean that goes down that deep?

That Hydromax watch can probably go all the way into the crust or mantle of the Earth and still function.

Heres a picture of the world's most water resistant watch, the Hydromax...To give it that depth, the case is filled with a subtance known as hydroil I believe so if you held the watch, it would look like there was literally water on the dial.

seantk · 13 May 2008, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiG JeEzY

Heres a picture of the world's most water resistant watch, the Hydromax...To give it that depth, the case is filled with a subtance known as hydroil I believe so if you held the watch, it would look like there was literally water on the dial.

The MTM Black Seal watch is depth rated to 12000M (39000FT)

Click here for the Black Seal

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiG JeEzY

Just imagine the Bell and Ross Hydormax which is water resistant to 11,000 meters or over 30,000 feet. Talk about marketing to the extreme! Is there even any ocean that goes down that deep?

That Hydromax watch can probably go all the way into the crust or mantle of the Earth and still function.

Yes - The Marianas Trench

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgreene1672

The first dive was only 313m and knowing rolex I doubt my sub would die at just 13 meters over, and as for the second good luck getting a watch to fit over your arm.

A NATO strap might work

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1MAC

We have a winner! Salt water is more dense than fresh water. I bet that's why they rate them so. It's always nice to float in ocean water and enjoy the greater bouyancy.

My calculation was using salt water. The fresh water depth rating would be approximately 15140ft/4612m

Sean

rescue7 · 13 May 2008, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric23

Thanks for the info, Now I really want one.

Does anyone know when they will be hitting the store self’s in Canada?

Eric

I'm hearing late summer, early fall. Kinda like Aug/Sept/Oct. Knowing Rolex Canada it will show up right around x-mas and i'm anticipating a long waiting list.
I'm on the list with my AD, i'm in no rush still enjoying my LV.

redshirt1957 · 13 May 2008, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Nothing on earth can survive such depths.....except some very specialised deep sea creatures that have been adapted by Mother Nature!!

Maybe I will use my SD as bait and see what kind of sea creature I can catch.

Trurolexer · 13 May 2008, 10:33 PM

Nice info, Sean.

Trurolexer · 13 May 2008, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiG JeEzY

Heres a picture of the world's most water resistant watch, the Hydromax...To give it that depth, the case is filled with a subtance known as hydroil I believe so if you held the watch, it would look like there was literally water on the dial.

WOW!!! What's that, Pal? Somekind of watch? lol!!!

13 May 2008, 03:43 AM	#1
seantk "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Sean Location: West Florida Posts: 2,671	Deep Sea depth rating = 4482m/14710ft ?? The depth rating on the new Sea Dweller Deep Sea is 3900m/12800ft, however Rolex states that this watch can withstand a colossal 2.98 metric tonnes of water pressure. 2.98 metric tonnes = 6570 PSI, which is the equivalent of 4482m/14710ft Could the listed depth rating of the Sea Dweller Deep Sea have anything to do with this: "The average depth of the Atlantic Ocean is 3,900 meters (12,800 ft). The ocean bed is made up of hills, mountains, tablelands and valleys just as on dry land." Source - Click Here or "Average depth of the Indian Ocean is 3,900 meters (12,800 feet)" Source - Click Here Sean __________________ "Life is frittered away with detail... simplify, simplify!" Henry D. Thoreau

13 May 2008, 03:46 AM	#2
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	If only they'd made it to 13,000 ft, I would have bought it!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

13 May 2008, 03:53 AM	#3
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	What's the point of such depths? Will a diver be able to survive such depths? __________________ I'm just a cook...

13 May 2008, 07:31 AM	#19
topcat30093 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: England Posts: 5,460	Thanks for doing the maths Nice info. __________________

13 May 2008, 11:24 AM	#23
BiG JeEzY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jerome Location: N. California Watch: GMT I/EXP II/DJ Posts: 3,351	Just imagine the Bell and Ross Hydormax which is water resistant to 11,000 meters or over 30,000 feet. Talk about marketing to the extreme! Is there even any ocean that goes down that deep? That Hydromax watch can probably go all the way into the crust or mantle of the Earth and still function. __________________ -Rolex Explorer II Black dial 16570 (circa 2001) -Rolex GMT Master I Pepsi 1675 (circa 1978) -Rolex Datejust TT Champagne 16233 (circa 1991) -Vintage Longines Automatic La Grande Classique -Vintage Seiko 6138 Automatic Chronograph with "Kakume" Dial

13 May 2008, 05:46 AM	#18
Aqua fobic Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Mark Location: UK now and again Watch: Seadweller Posts: 127	Believe it or not 3900m is not that deep. I know that sounds daft but the ROVs on some of the vessels I work on regulaly work at depths of 2500m especialy of the coast of west Africa. They have a depth rating of 3000m and thats with a safety factor built in so I dare say, with a nudge in the right direction they could go deeper. Oh and these are between 5 and 10 years old so technology has moved on since then. Mixed gas divers on the other hand do work at depths of 250m sometimes 300+ but the practicalities of these depths make it uneconomical to do so. The main problem is you have to reduce the amount of Oxygen in the mix from the normal 21% we breath now down to around 1% @ 300m. The body can stand greater depths, after all we are 90% water anyway, its the reduction of Oxygen thats the limiting factor. Having said all that at least the DSSD is safe in the shower

13 May 2008, 07:50 AM	#21
eric23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Calgary Posts: 9,595	Thanks for the info, Now I really want one. Does anyone know when they will be hitting the store self’s in Canada? Eric

13 May 2008, 10:33 PM	#29
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Nice info, Sean.

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