Winder?

[forgedblades]

Hello all, question for all of you. I have 2 pieces in my meager collection, a LV sub and a GMT ll. I wear them both but rotate them when it feels right to do so. On avg. I guess I wear each 3-6 days before putting one up and getting another out. I always have to wind 40 and set the date. Is this bad for these watches or is that not an overly long time for one to sit. I do not have a winder and was wondering if one was truly "needed". Opinions?
Thanks
Dave

[Mak2013]

May I suggest a watch winder


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[tkerrmd]

No you don't need a winder, what you are doing is fine, showing them some love

That's how I rotate mine, each runs down, wind reset, repeat!

[Sluggy]

I have been buying, selling and wearing Rollies for over 20 years. Bought one winder and gave it away. Save you money! But, that's just me...

[daytonaTBR]

You don't need a winder.

[adawil2002]

A winder is very convenient and saves time when switching between the two. I've used winders for over a decade with no ill effects. It comes down to preference.

[locutus49]

I use a Chiyoda, from Amazon. Superb Japanese motor. And it is economical.

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by locutus49

I use a Chiyoda, from Amazon. Superb Japanese motor. And it is economical.

I use Cheapasshit winder from eBay and it works just fine. $50 plus shipping.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

I use Cheapasshit winder from eBay and it works just fine. $50 plus shipping.

Otherwise known as The Burglar's Friend

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Otherwise known as The Burglar's Friend

Sure, as if they wouldn't figure a way to carry them out any way.

PS. Here's an earlier thread on member's winders.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ghlight=winder

[GradyPhilpott]

An expert opinion:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....0&postcount=57

[Rockrolex]

If you do a search on TRF of "winder", you'll come up with at least a dozen threads regarding the pros and cons on the value of winders. There are those who hate them and those who love them. Personally, I fit into the latter group. I have two quad winders by Brookstone ($200 each) which have worked silently and continuously for at least 5 years now.

[h999r]

No need. Your wrist is your winder. Imagine the big stores like tournoe or other big stores, they have to winding all their watches... Lol.

[watchwatcher]

Put that money toward your next watch!

[crowncollection]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Otherwise known as The Burglar's Friend

lol
why anyone would want to place extra wear on a watch when not using it i have never understood this, they take very little time to reset and wind

[MichaelFlash]

I've never used a winder and I don't think a watch sitting for several days or even weeks really makes a difference. Months or years maybe, but I've had watches sit an entire winter without winding and each started up and ran perfectly.

[Rockrolex]

Originally Posted by crowncollection

lol
why anyone would want to place extra wear on a watch when not using it i have never understood this, they take very little time to reset and wind

Originally Posted by MichaelFlash

I've never used a winder and I don't think a watch sitting for several days or even weeks really makes a difference. Months or years maybe, but I've had watches sit an entire winter without winding and each started up and ran perfectly.

When you have perpetual calendars and annual calendars you need to keep them on winders when they are not on your wrist. Otherwise they either have to be shipped back to the manufacturer to be reset (e.g., IWC) or they are a PITA (e.g., Breitling) to do a self reset.

[Tools]

I don't use a winder, but I don't change my watch that often, maybe every couple of weeks or if there is a particular occasion.

Winders are a personal choice, some like 'em and some don't; for a watch with complications, as mentioned, they can be very useful.

Get one and try it out, they're cheap enough. If it fits your lifestyle, keep it, if not, pass it on.

[trackntrail]

Do not worry about your watches winding down and stopping, or winding them often and keeping them running. As long as you aren't letting them sit for months between wears, where the lubricants could start to coagulate or dry out it will be fine. Just wind and wear when you please.

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by forgedblades

Hello all, question for all of you. I have 2 pieces in my meager collection, a LV sub and a GMT ll. I wear them both but rotate them when it feels right to do so. On avg. I guess I wear each 3-6 days before putting one up and getting another out. I always have to wind 40 and set the date. Is this bad for these watches or is that not an overly long time for one to sit. I do not have a winder and was wondering if one was truly "needed". Opinions?
Thanks
Dave

No, you don't need a winder. A winder is never "needed". It is simply a convenience for those that find setting their watches inconvenient. The trade off for that convenience is you are running your watches when they aren't being used.

[007Sub]

Winders are great ... if you get a good one. A cheap winder will overwind your watch and could even cause damage (theoretically). A proper winder can be set to the correct rotations per day and be convenient and pleasant to look at. I bought a used Scatola Del Tempo, and its an amazing winder to look at as much as it is convenient for watch switching. Those that suggest a good winder isn't helpful especially for a watch without a quickset date function are not thinking clearly.... or have never had a watch with non quickset date. If you're constantly unscrewing the crown, winding the hands a million times to set the date and then winding the mechanism and rescrewing your incurring much more wear on the watch then if it simply has the minimum rotations per day that it requires to stay active. Every once in a while, I'm a proponent of unscrewing the crown and manually giving it a few winds to keep the oils even. Anyway this is a hot topic with lots of arguing both ways so get ready for a long and tiring thread lol!

[harshad4005]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

An expert opinion:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....0&postcount=57

Thanks.

[Ruud Van Driver]

Originally Posted by 007Sub

Winders are great ... if you get a good one. A cheap winder will overwind your watch and could even cause damage (theoretically). A proper winder can be set to the correct rotations per day and be convenient and pleasant to look at. I bought a used Scatola Del Tempo, and its an amazing winder to look at as much as it is convenient for watch switching. Those that suggest a good winder isn't helpful especially for a watch without a quickset date function are not thinking clearly.... or have never had a watch with non quickset date. If you're constantly unscrewing the crown, winding the hands a million times to set the date and then winding the mechanism and rescrewing your incurring much more wear on the watch then if it simply has the minimum rotations per day that it requires to stay active. Every once in a while, I'm a proponent of unscrewing the crown and manually giving it a few winds to keep the oils even. Anyway this is a hot topic with lots of arguing both ways so get ready for a long and tiring thread lol!

Winding the hands how many times?

I've told you a gazillion times not to exaggerate!

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

When you have perpetual calendars and annual calendars you need to keep them on winders when they are not on your wrist. Otherwise they either have to be shipped back to the manufacturer to be reset (e.g., IWC) or they are a PITA (e.g., Breitling) to do a self reset.

I would agree Ed that watches with many complications then yes a machine winder could be a convenience. But with any Rolex know matter how many you have a machine winder is not needed.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by 007Sub

Winders are great ... if you get a good one. A cheap winder will overwind your watch and could even cause damage (theoretically). A proper winder can be set to the correct rotations per day and be convenient and pleasant to look at. I bought a used Scatola Del Tempo, and its an amazing winder to look at as much as it is convenient for watch switching. Those that suggest a good winder isn't helpful especially for a watch without a quickset date function are not thinking clearly.... or have never had a watch with non quickset date. If you're constantly unscrewing the crown, winding the hands a million times to set the date and then winding the mechanism and rescrewing your incurring much more wear on the watch then if it simply has the minimum rotations per day that it requires to stay active. Every once in a while, I'm a proponent of unscrewing the crown and manually giving it a few winds to keep the oils even. Anyway this is a hot topic with lots of arguing both ways so get ready for a long and tiring thread lol!

Lets get things straight regarding the crown and winding there are millions of manual wind watches with screw down crowns including Rolex they got wound up for decades without any problems.And no winder can possible over wind the watch as just like on the wrist when the mainspring is fully wound it just slips in the spring-barrel.And when wearing say average day of 10 hours,the winding pendulum would swing far more on the wrist if reasonably active than on these programmable machines. Dont know why they call them watch winders as they will not fully wind a stopped watch yes they will keep them ticking and that about all .And to fully wind and set a stopped watch would take around 30 seconds and I am 100% certain you would not have to wind the hands a million time to re-set it.

[Racerdj]

Winders are strictly a convenience if you want to grab a watch and go. If you get one, get a Wolf or equivalent as they use insulated motors and have 50 some programs that wind and rest simulating your wearing patterns. They are definitely not needed.

[Sluggy]

total waste of money. Save it and put it to your next Rolex.

[HogwldFLTR]

I specially like a winder for my slow set DD. Really a bit of a pia to set. I don't care about the extra wear but much more about the convenience. Again to each their own. As far as it being a burglars friend, it helps to live in a very low crime area and have in residence two large dogs. Seems like lifestyle choice including where one lives comes into play throughout this thread.

[Sublover2166]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

I specially like a winder for my slow set DD. Really a bit of a pia to set. I don't care about the extra wear but much more about the convenience. Again to each their own. As far as it being a burglars friend, it helps to live in a very low crime area and have in residence two large dogs. Seems like lifestyle choice including where one lives comes into play throughout this thread.

I agree. Convenience over "unnecessary wear" which is a bunch of hoopla anyways. I would rather have both my watches constantly running than sitting stagnant. I also have 4 dogs which protect the house, and a safe, and a Ruger.

[007Sub]

Originally Posted by padi56

Lets get things straight regarding the crown and winding there are millions of manual wind watches with screw down crowns including Rolex they got wound up for decades without any problems.And no winder can possible over wind the watch as just like on the wrist when the mainspring is fully wound it just slips in the spring-barrel.And when wearing say average day of 10 hours,the winding pendulum would swing far more on the wrist if reasonably active than on these programmable machines. Dont know why they call them watch winders as they will not fully wind a stopped watch yes they will keep them ticking and that about all .And to fully wind and set a stopped watch would take around 30 seconds and I am 100% certain you would not have to wind the hands a million time to re-set it.

A. The notion of "overwinding a watch" on a winder is not to say that the mainspring will be overwound but rather that the rotor will incur unnecessary overuse... even then if you look at what I wrote you'll notice I said "theoretically". Indeed, I've never heard of damage of this sort forcing someone to have their watch serviced... its speculative.

B. You've completely missed my point re-"winding a million times to re-set". Perhaps you've never had a watch without a quick set date function. But the reality for those who have encountered having to reset the date in the middle of the month on a watch without such a function is that winding the minute hand around and around (dare I say a million times to exaggerate the point) actually does incur a bit of stress to the gears. In fact, it's often recommended that people wait for the actual date to catch up with that displayed on the watch to avoid this. Something a winder would ameliorate. I hope thats clearer.

In short back to the OP. Winders = good, but make sure you get a good one that you can set correct amount of RPD for.