A Rare and Complete Abu Dhabi Presentation Date!

[Desibaba]

Im new to the high end watch world so please bear with me but doesn't it look a bit cheesy to take a nice Rolex and add a logo to it. Reminds me of people that take a S Class Mercedes and paint it purple and put chrome spinning wheels on it. Does this devalue the watch and its resale value?

[Dyim]

Originally Posted by Desibaba

Im new to the high end watch world so please bear with me but doesn't it look a bit cheesy to take a nice Rolex and add a logo to it. Reminds me of people that take a S Class Mercedes and paint it purple and put chrome spinning wheels on it. Does this devalue the watch and its resale value?

It's all about supply and demand. If you having something rare that someone wants it bad enough, then the sky is the limit.

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=412331

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=412313

I wouldn't say COMEX written across a sub is particularly attractive either.

[omitohud]

Originally Posted by Desibaba

Im new to the high end watch world so please bear with me but doesn't it look a bit cheesy to take a nice Rolex and add a logo to it. Reminds me of people that take a S Class Mercedes and paint it purple and put chrome spinning wheels on it. Does this devalue the watch and its resale value?

Its not the same. These UAE dials r original rolex, not custom. So u r saying AMG sucks?

They r not common. From my understanding, they were given as gifts. There r so many OP, DJ, DD or sub, but how many with logos like these? They r not just another rolex. U get the idea. 😉

Oh one more thing, collectors actually would pay a premium for special commission dials cause of rarity


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[BNA/LION]

Interesting... You own, you like it, wear it!

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by dubaiwatchguy

what year is it from chadri ?

1988

[Desibaba]

Originally Posted by omitohud

Its not the same. These UAE dials r original rolex, not custom. So u r saying AMG sucks?

They r not common. From my understanding, they were given as gifts. There r so many OP, DJ, DD or sub, but how many with logos like these? They r not just another rolex. U get the idea. ��

Oh one more thing, collectors actually would pay a premium for special commission dials cause of rarity


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So Rolex can make a dial with pretty much anything you want on it?

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Desibaba

Im new to the high end watch world so please bear with me but doesn't it look a bit cheesy to take a nice Rolex and add a logo to it. Reminds me of people that take a S Class Mercedes and paint it purple and put chrome spinning wheels on it. Does this devalue the watch and its resale value?

Nope...even the Domino's Pizza ones one tend to be priced quite a bit higher than the regular dial version. Then there's Tiffany dials, which can increase the value of the watch very significantly.

[omitohud]

Originally Posted by Desibaba

So Rolex can make a dial with pretty much anything you want on it?

That depends. These middle eastern crests were usually ordered by the sultans whom bought a lot of watches. I think u have to have a special relationship with either rolex or the local distributors. I believe rolex doesnt do this anymore so these special dials are scarce.


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[mineral]

Love those rare dials and they look nice and special.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by monbk

i'm afraid i have to go against everybody and say that to me that logo ruins the look of the dial.

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[Leodagan]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

x2

X3 .... and usually hard to sell at fair price ..

[AL7273]

In the Middle East, those are highly coveted watches. They were given away as gifts in the past.

For those who are not familiar with the Middle East - living and working in the region - I can assure you that what the UAE has done is beyond incredible and the country deserves the recognition for what it has achieved in the world.

Personally, I can't wait to see an Emirates Airlines branded Rolex GMT!

[padi56]

Originally Posted by SemperFi

That's a very unique piece Chad. I honestly never knew it even existed. Give it some wrist time if you can tear yourself away from your Subs.

Hardly unique made in smaller numbers yes but there are many hundreds possible thousands of this type of watch in this world today.Today there are many Rolex watches with various middle east sultans insignias on the dial some of the most valuable ones are the early sports type watches. In was around 1970,that Qaboos bin Said Al Said ousted his father and has ruled as sultan of Oman ever since.The British (SAS) and several Arab Nations sent well-trained forces to assist the Sultan, and the rebels were defeated. Legend has it that the Special Forces suffered heavy losses, and only 7 Special Forces Officers survived. As a token of his appreciation, Sultan Qaboos bin Said Al Said presented them each with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Gold. Also several Local Officers were presented with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Red. I am not sure how many of these were issued,but many middle east sultans had there coat of arms added to Rolex watches, in fact there was a special department in Rolex H/Q to oversee these matters.During the 1970s and 1980s it was not only Subs and Sea-Dwellers,they came in Presidents, Datejusts , Dates, TOG, and Airkings. Back in that era it was quite common for the Middle Eastern Kings to display their names and Family and counties Symbols all over watches, cars, jets etc to these people money was no object.But without the correct documentation and providence from Rolex they are just watches with a bit of extra paint on the dial so you got to be very careful in buying these types of watches.

[HogwldFLTR]

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[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

For me having a mid eastern national emblem on a watch would keep me from wearing it. I can see no allure.

The right reason not to wear it is that it's ugly or that it clutters up the dial. If it's political... well there are other forums for that discussion.

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

The right reason not to wear it is that it's ugly or that it clutters up the dial. If it's political... well there are other forums for that discussion.

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[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

It's not political what so ever. It's about truth and self truth. Don't make it political as I didn't; those are your terms alone.

Apologies if I didn't perceive your post the way you intended. But, it looked like you were pointing the finger at middle east countries as if they carry some sort shame or blame that you don't want to be associated with.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

It's not political what so ever. It's about truth and self truth. Don't make it political as I didn't; those are your terms alone. Likely any watch with any nationalistic emblem would have little value from my perspective.

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

The right reason not to wear it is that it's ugly or that it clutters up the dial. If it's political... well there are other forums for that discussion.

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Apologies if I didn't perceive your post the way you intended. But, it looked like you were pointing the finger at middle east countries as if they carry some sort shame or blame that you don't want to be associated with.

I will say this once and once only cool it guys.

[HogwldFLTR]

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[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

I understand your perception; there is a lot of prejudice in the world and quite a bit of hostility as well. It is a fine line between buckling to pressure and avoiding needless animosity.

My bad, I thought you were singling out middle east countries, rather than cluttered dials in general.

[HogwldFLTR]

I tried to remove my comments as much as possible. The least I could do. Sorry for the slip.

[SearChart]

Back on topic...

I really like those watches with an extra line or insignia and these seem to be quite affordable in the world of vintage Rolex.

[Rashid.bk]

Love the watch and love even more the package of peripheral items, I wish Rolex made the boxes like that still.
The watch is really lovely, it looks incredible and has a timeless vintage appeal, I agree with others that the crest takes away from the beautiful dial. Not wearing it is a total waste, life is too short and you can't take it to the grave. If maintaining it's "value" is so important, I'd rather sell it and invest in a good stock, that will likely rise in value faster than the watch.

Take art for example, It's beautiful, it can rise in value, but you hang it up and enjoy it and look at it everyday and after enjoying it for years you can pass it down when you leave, I'd do the same with this watch, wear it on the weekends, special dinners, or watch GTGs and when the time comes after gaining so much joy from it, I'd pass it on to someone special so they can also enjoy it.

[watchwatcher]

[Lpugliese]

Nice

[FremStar]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Nope...even the Domino's Pizza ones one tend to be priced quite a bit higher than the regular dial version. Then there's Tiffany dials, which can increase the value of the watch very significantly.

Congrats on your promotion to mod!

Originally Posted by padi56

Hardly unique made in smaller numbers yes but there are many hundreds possible thousands of this type of watch in this world today.Today there are many Rolex watches with various middle east sultans insignias on the dial some of the most valuable ones are the early sports type watches. In was around 1970,that Qaboos bin Said Al Said ousted his father and has ruled as sultan of Oman ever since.The British (SAS) and several Arab Nations sent well-trained forces to assist the Sultan, and the rebels were defeated. Legend has it that the Special Forces suffered heavy losses, and only 7 Special Forces Officers survived. As a token of his appreciation, Sultan Qaboos bin Said Al Said presented them each with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Gold. Also several Local Officers were presented with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Red. I am not sure how many of these were issued,but many middle east sultans had there coat of arms added to Rolex watches, in fact there was a special department in Rolex H/Q to oversee these matters.During the 1970s and 1980s it was not only Subs and Sea-Dwellers,they came in Presidents, Datejusts , Dates, TOG, and Airkings. Back in that era it was quite common for the Middle Eastern Kings to display their names and Family and counties Symbols all over watches, cars, jets etc to these people money was no object.But without the correct documentation and providence from Rolex they are just watches with a bit of extra paint on the dial so you got to be very careful in buying these types of watches.

Thank you for this post

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Not wearing it is a total waste, life is too short and you can't take it to the grave. If maintaining it's "value" is so important, I'd rather sell it and invest in a good stock, that will likely rise in value faster than the watch.

Take art for example, It's beautiful, it can rise in value, but you hang it up and enjoy it and look at it everyday and after enjoying it for years you can pass it down when you leave, I'd do the same with this watch, wear it on the weekends, special dinners, or watch GTGs and when the time comes after gaining so much joy from it, I'd pass it on to someone special so they can also enjoy it.

We'll here's the deal on this, as mentioned in page 1, but to sum up, it's really my dad's watch. He has an amazing rotation of vintage watches that he has no problem wearing (or me wearing), but he's a collector and this watch is mint. He has no desire to wear it, only to admire it and keep it mint in his collection.

Originally Posted by Chadridv

Well to answer your question...

A. My dad is the owner, I'm just the admirer ;) so it's really his call.

B. I generally agree with you, but I don't think id wear this one, only because the 36mm cases are not my cup of tea. My dad would probably be cool with me wearing it actually, but my subs keep me busy enough. so it won't be worth wearing it just for the sake of wearing it when I'd prefer to wear others that are not mint.

I do love admiring it though. It's a stunning piece.

[andrewd]

Always nice to see a vintage piece preserved mint. If it's just going to a museum piece then the dial is cool. If there is any intention of actually wearing the watch I'd swap the dial.