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mfer · 14 October 2015, 12:11 AM

Are there various GMT Bezel fonts out there? I know there are in vintage Rolex, but I didn't think there were on more modern 16710's. Here are two examples of bezels that are genuine, but appear different. Does anyone know about this or am I seeing something that isn't there?

Thanks.

mfer · 14 October 2015, 12:57 AM

Guess I should add, to the best of my knowledge they are both legit inserts.

padi56 · 14 October 2015, 01:16 AM

Over the past 50 odd years there have been hundreds of tiny fonts changes on inserts, dials etc,trouble today with the WIS type these tiny differences are more wooped and shouted about.With your Mk 1,2,3,4 or any other number mark dial, flat four fonts, pointed fonts,dial tick spacing, the infamous so called mistake dial or stick dial GMT the list is endless to a WIS,but the rest of Joe public doubt if they would even notice or care as they buy a Rolex for what it is a watch.

armybuck041 · 14 October 2015, 01:18 AM

I'm interested in this as well. My Pepsi doesn't have "tails" on the 2's and 4's, but my Coke and Black does.

mfer · 14 October 2015, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Over the past 50 odd years there have been hundreds of tiny fonts changes on inserts, dials etc,trouble today with the WIS type these tiny differences are more wooped and shouted about.With your Mk 1,2,3,4 or any other number mark dial, flat four fonts, pointed fonts,dial tick spacing, the infamous so called mistake dial or stick dial GMT the list is endless to a WIS,but the rest of Joe public doubt if they would even notice or care as they buy a Rolex for what it is a watch.

I understand that, and I've seen discussions on those MK 1,2,3,4 and the error stick dial. I've never seen anyone talk about 16710 insert changes. Kinda surprised there would be no discussion if they are different and both legit.

So, maybe my question is: Are these both Rolex OEM bezel inserts? I thought they were based on where I got the pictures from.

To me the "B" insert looks to have much fatter numbers.

mfer · 14 October 2015, 11:26 AM

A bump for the night crew. I think "B" is OEM, just maybe an older style.

springer · 14 October 2015, 01:52 PM

There is also a fat font version with seriffs. Seems to show up during the early 2000 years.

dbhak22 · 14 October 2015, 03:43 PM

Hope this doesn't confuse things more...but neither of the two inserts you posted have the serif-esque 'tails' as armybuck mentioned on the 2s/4s. I have a 2002 16710 Coke bought brand new and it has the tails. But I've also seen 16710 Cokes without the tails. I have to say though, I've never seen a 16710 Pepsi bezel with the tails...

VerticalHorizon · 14 October 2015, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dbhak22

Hope this doesn't confuse things more...but neither of the two inserts you posted have the serif-esque 'tails' as armybuck mentioned on the 2s/4s. I have a 2002 16710 Coke bought brand new and it has the tails. But I've also seen 16710 Cokes without the tails. I have to say though, I've never seen a 16710 Pepsi bezel with the tails...

Mine is a serif Coke.

mfer · 14 October 2015, 10:45 PM

Thanks for the replies. Think I'll try and collect good photos of various 16710 inserts. I'll be able to get some good pics of "B" soon. ;-)

Speed · 15 October 2015, 12:28 AM

Mike the Mod has posted a pic of a pile of Pepsi inserts over the years. Wish I still had it...so many variations.

I bet you can find it by searching on inserts and fonts Mik.

It was an amazing photo.

dr3ziz · 15 October 2015, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mfer

Thanks for the replies. Think I'll try and collect good photos of various 16710 inserts. I'll be able to get some good pics of "B" soon. ;-)

Hi mik ... let me add my Z serial (2006) pepsi bezel to your font registry ,,, i too have not seen an original pepsi serif bezel ,,, black and coke on the other hand i have seen

springer · 15 October 2015, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dr3ziz

Hi mik ... let me add my Z serial (2006) pepsi bezel to your font registry ,,, i too have not seen an original pepsi serif bezel ,,, black and coke on the other hand i have seen

Here is a red/blue insert with seriffs - circa 2003.

dr3ziz · 15 October 2015, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by springer

Here is a red/blue insert with seriffs - circa 2003.

thanks jP ! love it

dbhak22 · 15 October 2015, 04:19 AM

You can really see the serif 2s on "22" on mine:

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armybuck041 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Fred'ton Canada Watch: Easy Come, Easy Go Posts: 304	I'm interested in this as well. My Pepsi doesn't have "tails" on the 2's and 4's, but my Coke and Black does. __________________ Easy come, easy go....

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mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	A bump for the night crew. I think "B" is OEM, just maybe an older style. __________________ member#3242

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springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	There is also a fat font version with seriffs. Seems to show up during the early 2000 years. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

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dbhak22 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Daniel Location: PNW Watch: ♛ Posts: 3,063	Hope this doesn't confuse things more...but neither of the two inserts you posted have the serif-esque 'tails' as armybuck mentioned on the 2s/4s. I have a 2002 16710 Coke bought brand new and it has the tails. But I've also seen 16710 Cokes without the tails. I have to say though, I've never seen a 16710 Pepsi bezel with the tails... __________________ GMT II (16710) \| Explorer I (1016) \| Datejust I (116234) \| Submariner (1680) \| Day-Date (1803) \| Royal Oak (25594) \| FOIS (2998 spec) \| Submariner (16808)

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mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	Thanks for the replies. Think I'll try and collect good photos of various 16710 inserts. I'll be able to get some good pics of "B" soon. ;-) __________________ member#3242

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Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Mike the Mod has posted a pic of a pile of Pepsi inserts over the years. Wish I still had it...so many variations. I bet you can find it by searching on inserts and fonts Mik. It was an amazing photo.

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dbhak22 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Daniel Location: PNW Watch: ♛ Posts: 3,063	You can really see the serif 2s on "22" on mine: __________________ GMT II (16710) \| Explorer I (1016) \| Datejust I (116234) \| Submariner (1680) \| Day-Date (1803) \| Royal Oak (25594) \| FOIS (2998 spec) \| Submariner (16808)

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