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Old 14 January 2016, 11:02 PM   #1
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Royal Oak bezel observation...

Dears I love AP to death, it's one of my favorite brands and I have owned a total of 4 APs in the last 3 years with only one remain, the 15400 in silver which I bought brand new from an AD last August.

I had 15300s and a Diver before and I loved everything about them. My most favorite feature of any AP is the superb finishing done especially on the legendary bezel. However, I noticed that finishing on bezel can sometimes vary in terms of how "hard" it's vertically beveled, if that makes sense.

Meaning, I have handled many I-series 15400s just like mine and some had very "obvious" vertical finishing on the bezel while others seemed not so much beveled.

I think mine is a bit of the soft side vs the other one (image by watchcollectinglifestyle)

I am just wondering if anybody else noticed this? And if it's a QC issue...?

Would love to hear your thoughts on this.
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Old 15 January 2016, 01:23 AM   #2
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Hmm I've seen this in the ceramics but haven't noticed in the steel models. Chalk it up to hand finished goods?
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Old 15 January 2016, 02:20 AM   #3
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I have seen some variation on bezels and cases indeed.
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Old 15 January 2016, 03:07 AM   #4
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Interesting. Mine appears to be not quite as soft as you can see the vertical lines.


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Old 15 January 2016, 07:45 AM   #5
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I have seen used APs with a crispness loss due to polishing but not as much on new. Most of my APs have all been quite sharp.
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Old 15 January 2016, 08:33 AM   #6
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I know what you mean, and I have seen variations as well.
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Old 15 January 2016, 09:30 AM   #7
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I noticed that too after owning a few APs. Personally, I loved the prominent brushed lines finishing, especially on ceramic.
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Old 15 January 2016, 09:43 AM   #8
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I can definitely see the vertical grain on my 15300 if that's what you mean.

I recently sent it to Clearwater to address a quick set issue. Asking them to touch up the bezel and other spots.

Looking forward to getting it back - crispy! Hope I can keep it that way...for a while.
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Old 15 January 2016, 09:47 AM   #9
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Hand finishing will find variation. Much like the pantograph cut dials, each are slightly different.
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Old 15 January 2016, 10:10 AM   #10
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Hand finishing will find variation. Much like the pantograph cut dials, each are slightly different.
Yup also see this on PPs, brush depth is not uniform.
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Old 15 January 2016, 10:30 AM   #11
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That's as it should be right?

It's a human hand running a piece of metal / ceramic etc (granted held in place via some tool) across fine grit sandpaper.
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Old 15 January 2016, 10:48 AM   #12
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Yes, you'll see the vertical grain on the bezel
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Old 15 January 2016, 11:10 AM   #13
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Lighting also plays a big part. The angle and type of lighting will affect how prominent the brushing looks. At least it does on mine.
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Old 15 January 2016, 11:45 AM   #14
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Royal Oak bezel observation...

Here's my 15400's finishing (I series)




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Old 15 January 2016, 01:39 PM   #15
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Maybe it was finished with an older belt? I don't know how often they replace the finishing belts but I imagine a new belt produces a 'sharper' finish.

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Old 15 January 2016, 02:19 PM   #16
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Old 15 January 2016, 02:49 PM   #17
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Love the finish on the bezels!
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Old 15 January 2016, 04:01 PM   #18
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Old 16 January 2016, 12:31 AM   #19
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Really weird my 44mm FC bezel is actually worse than your bezel, but currently i dont have a complete answer for why it looks soft
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Old 16 January 2016, 12:59 AM   #20
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Did you buy BNIB? Was there any way it could have been polished?
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Old 16 January 2016, 05:24 AM   #21
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Thanks guys for all the responses.

Yes, I bought it BNIB from an AD.

I used to be picky when buying Rolex looking at the date magnification and all that, now need to pay attention to bezels when buying APs :-))
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Old 16 January 2016, 07:48 AM   #22
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Old 16 January 2016, 12:27 PM   #23
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One thing to note is that in photos, the grain of the bezel appears far more pronounced if the angle of the incident light is perpendicular to the grain. So if the light source is to the right or left (crown) side of the bezel, the grain is much sharper in the photos. Here are two examples, the first where the light was more parallel to the grain and the second where it was perfectly perpendicular to it:

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Old 18 January 2016, 12:11 AM   #24
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Dears I love AP to death, it's one of my favorite brands and I have owned a total of 4 APs in the last 3 years with only one remain, the 15400 in silver which I bought brand new from an AD last August.

I had 15300s and a Diver before and I loved everything about them. My most favorite feature of any AP is the superb finishing done especially on the legendary bezel. However, I noticed that finishing on bezel can sometimes vary in terms of how "hard" it's vertically beveled, if that makes sense.

Meaning, I have handled many I-series 15400s just like mine and some had very "obvious" vertical finishing on the bezel while others seemed not so much beveled.

I think mine is a bit of the soft side vs the other one (image by watchcollectinglifestyle)

I am just wondering if anybody else noticed this? And if it's a QC issue...?

Would love to hear your thoughts on this.


True. My experience with a ROC, I brought it in for service and since there was a big dent at 8 on the bezel, the AP tech suggested to polish just the bezel to minimize the dent. The end result is that the dent is less pronounced (still there though), but the vertical grain is much softer.

If I knew this beforehand, I would not have done it.
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Old 18 January 2016, 02:45 AM   #25
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One thing to note is that in photos, the grain of the bezel appears far more pronounced if the angle of the incident light is perpendicular to the grain. So if the light source is to the right or left (crown) side of the bezel, the grain is much sharper in the photos. Here are two examples, the first where the light was more parallel to the grain and the second where it was perfectly perpendicular to it:




Interesting. The angle of the light does seem to make a difference.


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Old 18 January 2016, 06:00 AM   #26
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Nothing wrong with the finish on that bezel, it looks fine to me.
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Old 21 January 2016, 08:14 AM   #27
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There's a huge amount of variation depending on the light/angle/over/under exposure which makes the difference in online photos appear much more than there is in real life. That said, there is a difference.
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