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Old 19 January 2016, 06:15 AM   #31
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My answer is always "What purpose does the money you spent serves you? If its just telling time, a $20 Timex will do. And No, its not worth the time, no luxury item does." :D
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Old 19 January 2016, 06:24 AM   #32
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You guys are waaay to nice, I just say "seriously, you want to talk about my watch? How about them Patriots?"

Which usually brings on a heated debate about spygate and deflate gate
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Old 19 January 2016, 06:33 AM   #33
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The car analogy doesn't work because there are measurable differences there. A better comparison might be the diamond engagement ring on her hand. Why didn't she settle for cubic zerconium. You can barely see the difference.
That is the perfect analogy.
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Old 19 January 2016, 06:42 AM   #34
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The car analogy doesn't work because there are measurable differences there. A better comparison might be the diamond engagement ring on her hand. Why didn't she settle for cubic zerconium. You can barely see the difference.
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That is the perfect analogy.
Agreed, best answer yet!
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Old 19 January 2016, 06:45 AM   #35
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I have never been asked that or a similar question. If I were, I'd probably mention something about hand made manufactures and the fact that they typically cost more than mass-produced products. Plus you're paying for the brand.
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Old 19 January 2016, 10:36 AM   #36
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Same reason a very nice paint by numbers portrait of a clown is worth what it is and a Rembrandt is worth what it is. It's what the market bears.
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Old 19 January 2016, 12:31 PM   #37
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I would just give "the look".
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Old 19 January 2016, 01:05 PM   #38
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She very politely inquires how much we paid for them
More than I did for lunch but less than my car. **with a polite smile**
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"What makes this watch worth X thousands of dollars?"
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"WHY would you pay so much for a WATCH?"
I have enough clothes and shoes.
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Old 19 January 2016, 01:14 PM   #39
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It costs so much because we are willing to pay that much.

I'd love to see the cost breakdown in making a Rolex.
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Old 19 January 2016, 01:21 PM   #40
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a Louis Vuitton pocket book vs whatever
This one still confuses me.
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Old 19 January 2016, 01:26 PM   #41
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The car analogy doesn't work because there are measurable differences there. A better comparison might be the diamond engagement ring on her hand. Why didn't she settle for cubic zerconium. You can barely see the difference.
This is actually a good analogy.

A diamond and a brand new CZ look about the same.

The difference is that the diamond really "is forever."

The CZ, not so much.
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Old 19 January 2016, 01:52 PM   #42
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This is actually a good analogy.

A diamond and a brand new CZ look about the same.

The difference is that the diamond really "is forever."

The CZ, not so much.
Well said.
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Old 19 January 2016, 02:12 PM   #43
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Never been asked. Perhaps point out its an asset you can wear. A bank account you can wear. They always go up in value!
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Old 19 January 2016, 02:26 PM   #44
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"Chicks dig it!" seems to resonate with either gender......
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Old 19 January 2016, 05:22 PM   #45
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Would it be fair to say that most other watches of similar quality have a similar price?
Objectively, how does an Omega Seamaster go against a Submariner in terms of quality?
What about an IWC Pilot?
I imagine we pay some % of the price for the Rolex name alone (?)
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Old 19 January 2016, 06:12 PM   #46
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She may have come by the question honestly, but I don't think people who wear luxury watches need to be put in the position of defending watch pricing.

If you asked her to justify the cost of her home, purse, jewelry, clothing or car, she probably wouldn't enjoy it
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Old 19 January 2016, 09:01 PM   #47
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You can explain that it's no different than any other recreational pursuit. I know a guy who lives in a ratty old trailer house who has a $50,000 bass boat and a $30,000 camper trailer. I know all sorts of guys with more than one ATV at at least $5,000 apiece.

I used to be into golf, then NFA full auto fire arms, then highly accurized tactical rifles, then hunting, then lampworking, then scuba diving, now watches. They all cost about the same once you consider all that goes into it. The watches are just the latest chapter in my recreational lifestyle.

Like the equipment in my other hobbies, I prefer watches that are durable and will last two life times. That's why you pay more for one of these, and also why I'm willing to pay more for one of these.
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Old 19 January 2016, 10:06 PM   #48
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It makes me look so cool...
and sexy...
and ... well, Stuart said it best,

"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."

OK seriously now, there really isn't an objective answer unless you are a vintage investor looking for future gains.

Owning modern Rolex models are better than stamp collecting where people pay Rolex prices for a gummed scrap of paper.


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Old 19 January 2016, 10:12 PM   #49
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The car analogy doesn't work because there are measurable differences there. A better comparison might be the diamond engagement ring on her hand. Why didn't she settle for cubic zerconium. You can barely see the difference.
Exactly this.

A perfect 1carrot diamond vs. a flawed one carrot diamond and there is a huge difference in price. You may not be able to see the difference with the naked eye, but you'll always know it's there.
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Old 19 January 2016, 10:15 PM   #50
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I got asked; "The Question" again, how do you answer it?

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Never been asked. Perhaps point out its an asset you can wear. A bank account you can wear. They always go up in value!

Well a modern Rolex isn't going to rise in value during our lifetimes.

But I agree it's a place people like to park a substantial amount of cash they can afford to spend.
Funny thing is this: I'm seldom asked in ordinary daily life - but on the weekends at the track while wearing a 116518 I do get asked "how much".
Drivers say, hmmm not bad...it's all perspective. These are guys who spend that much on a few weekends of fun chasing a $20 trophy - or a set of coilover adjustable dampers.


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Old 19 January 2016, 10:47 PM   #51
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My answer would be:
Why does a Chevy cost less than a MB, which costs less than a Bentley, which costs less than a Bugatti? Aren't they all cars like watches are all watches?
OP describes the question as being legitimately posed, which implies the need to respond with an equally balanced reply, that does not come across as "defensive".
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Old 20 January 2016, 06:02 AM   #52
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People ask me all the time why I jump out of planes, bridges, cliffs, cranes etc...I say, because I can.

I spend the money because I can.
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Old 20 January 2016, 03:38 PM   #53
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'cause it's got these itty bitty gears that are all sized and polished to perfection and a balance wheel so precise it oscillates 28,800 an hour - 691,200 times a day within 50 oscillations every day!! . Sure, you can't see it thru the solid case back, but I know they're there!!

Eyes should be glazed by then.

Paul, I honestly thought by the title that yoo were caught washing your watch again!!


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Old 20 January 2016, 03:56 PM   #54
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Been asked twice. Told both I won it in a poker game.

See no reason to explain or justify a wristwatch and definitely don't see why I should discuss its cost with anyone.
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Old 20 January 2016, 09:46 PM   #55
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brand equity. imho
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Old 20 January 2016, 10:12 PM   #56
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Easy answer: there is absolutely no justification whatsoever.

(When a woman asks, which seems rare to my experience. They usually just compliment) what is the justification for that Coach bag costing what it does? (Or whatever brand). Put the reply into context to the asker. Men: cars (or boats) are a good analogue. Women: shoes and/or handbags.
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Old 20 January 2016, 11:43 PM   #57
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'cause it's got these itty bitty gears that are all sized and polished to perfection and a balance wheel so precise it oscillates 28,800 an hour - 691,200 times a day within 50 oscillations every day!! . Sure, you can't see it thru the solid case back, but I know they're there!!

Eyes should be glazed by then.

Paul, I honestly thought by the title that yoo were caught washing your watch again!!


DAY-O !!!!!

Ahhhh.... The memories. I wish we could see that thread again.
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Old 20 January 2016, 11:43 PM   #58
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There are only x # of rolexes in the world, the demand exceeds that # hence the higher price than most other watches. It's a demand driven market, people want them, the prices are high.
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Old 20 January 2016, 11:51 PM   #59
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give examples people can relate to like a Ferrari vs a dodge neon

a Louis Vuitton pocket book vs whatever
What makes your "name brand purse " cost more then a xxx handbag?

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