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uri40 · 10 April 2016, 04:05 AM

Just wondering what are the key things to look at when purchasing a used 15400 to determine if its real or not? Are there things that are very obvious?

SMD · 10 April 2016, 04:08 AM

The movement. But who is to say you won't get real pics but get sent a fake. If you are worried you are buying from the wrong place.

AK797 · 10 April 2016, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SMD

The movement. But who is to say you won't get real pics but get sent a fake. If you are worried you are buying from the wrong place.

Abdullasaif · 10 April 2016, 06:26 AM

Show us the pictures and we will tell you whats wrong

texex91 · 10 April 2016, 07:54 AM

Best way to determine, post front and back detailed pics right here...you'll get your answer pretty quickly.

Buy the seller

masterserg · 10 April 2016, 08:04 AM

Buy from a trusted seller or AD.

Baco Noir · 10 April 2016, 08:34 AM

Even if I am buying a watch that is 25% of the price of an AP, I know who I am buying from 1st so there is no worry about a scam. Suggest you do the same.

Patton250 · 10 April 2016, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by uri40

Just wondering what are the key things to look at when purchasing a used 15400 to determine if its real or not? Are there things that are very obvious?

What color dial do you want? I brought my new black dialed 15400 from a trusted seller here the other day. Everything went perfect. Great price too. I know he still has a white diled 15400. PM me if your interested.

uri40 · 10 April 2016, 12:00 PM

I already have one, and I don't doubt its real since its a trusted seller, but I asked more on curiosity since there seems to be a lot of fakes out there. I'll still post some pics of mine.

Patton250 · 10 April 2016, 12:15 PM

Everybody talks about fakes. With Rolex too. I've never seen them.

masterserg · 10 April 2016, 10:18 PM

No worries about that one. It's a beauty!

GB-man · 10 April 2016, 10:36 PM

It's easier to tell a fake AP RO than say a rolex. The movement is a dead giveaway. Also the case and dial work is more difficult to accurately replicate.

Al1969 · 11 April 2016, 01:39 AM

Not an expert,'but looks just like mine. It recently returned to me after being serviced at APSC and came back looking great.

outtatime · 11 April 2016, 05:29 AM

If you're only saving 25% off retail and you're worried about the seller, you'd be far better off going through one of the forum dealers. For a $17k retail watch, worrying about the authenticity isn't worth the <$1000 you're saving IMO.

lapince · 11 April 2016, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Patton250

Everybody talks about fakes. With Rolex too. I've never seen them.

Go on eBay there's a ton of them, or go here on the "watch out" sub section, there are a lot out there...

AK797 · 11 April 2016, 09:38 AM

Main thing is the movement, one of the great blessings of open casebacks, and the tapisserie dial patterns.

jolimont · 13 April 2016, 12:04 AM

+1

your soon to be 15400 is real

s14roller · 14 April 2016, 10:05 AM

As long as you're buying the seller, you should be safe. Make sure it's complete and yes, posting some pics (as long as you can confirm it's the exact watch you're buying) helps!

UncleSwiss · 16 April 2016, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Patton250

Everybody talks about fakes. With Rolex too. I've never seen them.

As I stated before, a scary but true fact...

"The net profit of the estimated 40 million counterfeit watches sold each year is valued at roughly $1 billion. The trade is equal to 6 percent of the Swiss Watch Industry’s exports"

Have no illusions sir, they are out there

PJ S · 17 April 2016, 02:35 AM

^
I wouldn’t put a whole lot of faith in the estimated numbers or value, that that report contained.
The FHH’s number was twice what the Deloitte report themselves estimated, which had a spread of 10 million itself.
So, according to their “findings”, the value of each hooky watch is estimated to be anything from $25 to $50 or $100 – talk about hedging their bets!

kelvin619 · 17 April 2016, 03:59 AM

Uri40, looks pretty good to me. Enjoy

mickyd329 · 17 April 2016, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Main thing is the movement, one of the great blessings of open casebacks, and the tapisserie dial patterns.

I agree. I have seen some good replicas, but one thing they can't replicate is the movement.

UncleSwiss · 17 April 2016, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PJ S

^
I wouldn’t put a whole lot of faith in the estimated numbers or value, that that report contained.
The FHH’s number was twice what the Deloitte report themselves estimated, which had a spread of 10 million itself.
So, according to their “findings”, the value of each hooky watch is estimated to be anything from $25 to $50 or $100 – talk about hedging their bets!

I don't hang on every whim of news to be exact sir. However your slice it...millions of fake counterfeit watches are being produced and sold every year period. And that's a sh!t load of watches out in the public year after year!!!

Abdullasaif · 18 April 2016, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by uri40

I already have one, and I don't doubt its real since its a trusted seller, but I asked more on curiosity since there seems to be a lot of fakes out there. I'll still post some pics of mine.

How much did you pay for it? If you paid for it as much as the price of the fake you should have a laugh at the seller

10 April 2016, 04:05 AM	#1
uri40 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Jose, CA Watch: AP Royal Oak Posts: 105	How to determine if a 15400 is fake? Just wondering what are the key things to look at when purchasing a used 15400 to determine if its real or not? Are there things that are very obvious?

10 April 2016, 08:04 AM	#6
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	Buy from a trusted seller or AD. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

10 April 2016, 08:34 AM	#7
Baco Noir "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: Colorado Watch: this ya'll Posts: 4,970	Even if I am buying a watch that is 25% of the price of an AP, I know who I am buying from 1st so there is no worry about a scam. Suggest you do the same. __________________ Current Collection: Rolex 126619LB, 116710BLNR, and 216570 polar Explorer II; Omega Apollo 8 Speedmaster and Planet Ocean 42; Tudor BB Bronze Bucherer Blue Edition; Nomos Neomatik 42; Breitling Aerospace, Avenger Blackbird, & SuperOcean 44; Doxa 300 Pro Carbon; Stowa Limette; Laco Napa Flieger; Mickey Mouse Timex Electric; and dare I say it...an Apple Watch too

10 April 2016, 12:00 PM	#9
uri40 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Jose, CA Watch: AP Royal Oak Posts: 105	I already have one, and I don't doubt its real since its a trusted seller, but I asked more on curiosity since there seems to be a lot of fakes out there. I'll still post some pics of mine. Attached Images

10 April 2016, 12:15 PM	#10
Patton250 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: Brett Location: Florida Watch: 5205R Posts: 5,160	Everybody talks about fakes. With Rolex too. I've never seen them. __________________ Morality does not derive from consensus. It only comes from one place. Pride goes before destruction, and haughtiness before a fall. Often times unbelief is disguised as wisdom Instagram - patton250

10 April 2016, 04:08 AM	#2
SMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: SMD Location: LGA/EWR/ORD Watch: AP/PP Posts: 3,701	The movement. But who is to say you won't get real pics but get sent a fake. If you are worried you are buying from the wrong place.

10 April 2016, 06:26 AM	#4
Abdullasaif "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Dubai Watch: bipolar Posts: 2,854	Show us the pictures and we will tell you whats wrong

10 April 2016, 07:54 AM	#5
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Best way to determine, post front and back detailed pics right here...you'll get your answer pretty quickly. Buy the seller

10 April 2016, 10:18 PM	#11
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	No worries about that one. It's a beauty! __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

10 April 2016, 10:36 PM	#12
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	It's easier to tell a fake AP RO than say a rolex. The movement is a dead giveaway. Also the case and dial work is more difficult to accurately replicate.

11 April 2016, 01:39 AM	#13
Al1969 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,640	Not an expert,'but looks just like mine. It recently returned to me after being serviced at APSC and came back looking great. Attached Images __________________ WG SUB-116719 GMT MASTER II 126719

11 April 2016, 05:29 AM	#14
outtatime "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Jon Location: Toledo, OH Watch: Deepsea Posts: 1,136	If you're only saving 25% off retail and you're worried about the seller, you'd be far better off going through one of the forum dealers. For a $17k retail watch, worrying about the authenticity isn't worth the <$1000 you're saving IMO. __________________ The above represents my opinion. I may be wrong, but that's how I feel. Scratches ≠ "Character"

11 April 2016, 09:38 AM	#16
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Main thing is the movement, one of the great blessings of open casebacks, and the tapisserie dial patterns.

13 April 2016, 12:04 AM	#17
jolimont "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Will Location: land of oz Watch: sundial Posts: 2,219	+1 your soon to be 15400 is real

14 April 2016, 10:05 AM	#18
s14roller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,257	As long as you're buying the seller, you should be safe. Make sure it's complete and yes, posting some pics (as long as you can confirm it's the exact watch you're buying) helps!

17 April 2016, 02:35 AM	#20
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	^ I wouldn’t put a whole lot of faith in the estimated numbers or value, that that report contained. The FHH’s number was twice what the Deloitte report themselves estimated, which had a spread of 10 million itself. So, according to their “findings”, the value of each hooky watch is estimated to be anything from $25 to $50 or $100 – talk about hedging their bets!

17 April 2016, 03:59 AM	#21
kelvin619 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 131	Uri40, looks pretty good to me. Enjoy

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