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westinghouse · 7 July 2016, 08:09 AM

The salesman mentioned a client of his who owns a professional sports team (which one, he won't share) that bought an 18k gold sub from him and only wears that particular watch when they sign a new player. Every day the owner wears a Casio with a rubber strap. Those are the only 2 watches the man owns and he can afford to buy the Rolex building itself.

Chadridv · 7 July 2016, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluside

His opinion. Not mine, but not a bad one.

I'd say for a tourneau sales person, he sounds like the smartest person on every store floor! Lol.

It's not a bad opinion but just not logical for many of us. I own enough watches that if I sold them all I could probably pick up a PLATONA or some other grail level watch. Unless I won the lottery tomorrow id still have to work and travel, and as long as I do both (especially simultaneously) I'd rarely ever wear that watch. And that's just no fun.

Jason71 · 7 July 2016, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by westinghouse

The salesman mentioned a client of his who owns a professional sports team (which one, he won't share) that bought an 18k gold sub from him and only wears that particular watch when they sign a new player. Every day the owner wears a Casio with a rubber strap. Those are the only 2 watches the man owns and he can afford to buy the Rolex building itself.

Sounds like that particular client is letting an excellent watch collect dust while he wears a plastic watch........Sorry, not for me.

Personally, I like having the variety of many watches. I've found that I have quit lusting after watches and have nearly completed my collection. Variety is the spice of life. A man could choose women or watches (among other things of course).....the watches are WAY CHEAPER.

vman · 7 July 2016, 08:29 AM

Almost agree. Need at least 2: a dress one and a sport one.

Tools · 7 July 2016, 08:44 AM

I've got about 30 or so...

I need more to be able to cover when a couple are in the shop..

I think that I'll go put on one of my several Exp II variants; I feel adventurous right now.

(If my biggest accomplishment in life was a watch salesman at Tourneau, maybe I'd try to justify having only one watch - a cheap one)

Kingair · 7 July 2016, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chadridv

I'd say for a tourneau sales person, he sounds like the smartest person on every store floor!

The one with the most sense perhaps

But a good sale rep ?

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Ruud Van Driver · 7 July 2016, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

This is absolute nonsense.

Why would your watch be any different than anything else you own and wear or use, and, heaven forbid, admire and collect..

One belt, but it's a really nifty one !!

One pair of shoes, but they're the shiniest on the block !!

Or tell that to the guy with the model trains in his garage, or coins in his safe, or stamps in their books..

---- one watch !!! An impossible situation.

(Tell your wife that she only needs one pair of earrings !)

I'd be more worried telling my wife she only needs one pair of shoes! Honestly, anyone would think I was married to a millipede!

As for the salesman's opinion, I tend to agree with him. I was perfectly happy with my Daytona until I joined this forum!

returntorolex · 7 July 2016, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

Honestly, anyone would think I was married to a millipede!

HA HA LOL....KILLING ME!!!

AK797 · 7 July 2016, 09:31 AM

It's an up sales pitch. Instead of trading normal priced watches he's suggesting you spend the most you possibly can, and then carry on trading. He's not saying get a Holy Grail and stick to it, no just to wear it until you are tired of it and want to trade it again and climb back on the now much more expensive merry go round.

However the question of one Holy Grail v a few to wear in rotation is an interesting one and one that ofc is different for every individual. I would like to consolidate down to 3/4 in a Holy grail collection but can't see myself having just 1.

ref1655 · 7 July 2016, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by westinghouse

He told me that all a man needs is one "holy grail" watch, the best he can afford...Thoughts?

makes sense to me...right now as I type, I am wearing a Timex Expedition while my Rolex 'rests' in an unused plastic urine container (having tossed the green box out years ago).

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Originally Posted by westinghouse

The salesman mentioned a client of his who owns a professional sports team (which one, he won't share) that bought an 18k gold sub from him and....Every day the owner wears a Casio with a rubber strap. Those are the only 2 watches the man owns and he can afford to buy the Rolex building itself.

that's one of the reasons he's a wealthy & successful sports team owner...he doesn't waste his time & resources 'flipping' watches.

sutats · 7 July 2016, 09:35 AM

It's a perfectly cool notion if one is happy to wear one's grail watch with any type of clothing and for any type of activity.

GB-man · 7 July 2016, 09:37 AM

Sales pitch for sure.

WristEnvy · 7 July 2016, 10:19 AM

Don't think that sales pitch will work for everyone.

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Old Expat Beast · 7 July 2016, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by westinghouse

He told me that all a man needs is one "holy grail" watch, the best he can afford, and that he should wear it everyday until he tires of it and then trade it in for another watch or keep it for life. He encounters too many customers who own more watches than days of the week and constantly look to upgrade or trade.

Thoughts?

Sounds to me like he was just trying to up-sell you to a more expensive watch.

ref1655 · 7 July 2016, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Sounds to me like he was just trying to up-sell you to a more expensive watch.

a very savvy insight...surprised no one thought of it (including myself).

AzPaul · 7 July 2016, 10:44 AM

Variety is the spice of life.

Baco Noir · 7 July 2016, 10:55 AM

Sounds like he's looking for the biggest commission possible!

Etschell · 7 July 2016, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by westinghouse

He told me that all a man needs is one "holy grail" watch, the best he can afford, and that he should wear it everyday until he tires of it and then trade it in for another watch or keep it for life. He encounters too many customers who own more watches than days of the week and constantly look to upgrade or trade.

Thoughts?

So he figures he will sell you a Richard millie and call it a day right.

droptopman · 7 July 2016, 11:10 AM

Obviously he does not spend time here, if he did his philosophy would change quick.
I was happy with 1 Rolex for many years. Did much like he described, wear it a few years and trade it in on a new one.
After finding watch forums, watches became much more of an enjoyable hobby. At this point I would miss the hobby activity too much to only have one watch.

BigAl72 · 7 July 2016, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jrs146

For 99% of the population who are NON-WIS people - this is excellent advice. Get your grail, wear it every day for your entire lifetime and be happy with it!

It's a different story for WIS-FOLKS like us. We must suffer the pain and suffering of a lifelong thirst that cannot be quenched. The struggle is real and a grail is no more than a fairytale

X2

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Star Ferry · 7 July 2016, 12:22 PM

Maybe I'm a dummy who hits door jambs too often, but if I only had one watch it would be scratched, dented and in terrible condition. My rotation helps me keep my watches in decent shape

codecow · 7 July 2016, 12:55 PM

Very wrong, watches require service.

Would he make the same argument for clothes? A plain white shirt is all he ever needs?

What about food? Pizza is good, let's eat pizza for every meal.

TheVTCGuy · 7 July 2016, 01:08 PM

I think his statement was Iconic......

OK OK!... I promise I'll stop

vipereaper30 · 7 July 2016, 01:12 PM

Complete sales pitch. What was he trying to upsell you on?

daytonaTBR · 7 July 2016, 02:39 PM

It really varies person to person. Sometimes I'm envious of people that can be content with just one watch

Andad · 7 July 2016, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tools

This is absolute nonsense.

Why would your watch be any different than anything else you own and wear or use, and, heaven forbid, admire and collect..

One belt, but it's a really nifty one !!

One pair of shoes, but they're the shiniest on the block !!

Or tell that to the guy with the model trains in his garage, or coins in his safe, or stamps in their books..

---- one watch !!! An impossible situation.

(Tell your wife that she only needs one pair of earrings !)

Nope....you can tell her......

singe89 · 7 July 2016, 03:21 PM

I agree with quality over quantity but 1 Grail I would get bored of too quickly. I think 4-8 is the right number. When you start getting close to 8 it's time to start reviewing the collection and think about trading a few out to move up to something nicer. Only problem is when they all have sentimental value and you enjoy wearing all of them. Maybe 10 is a good number....

Also with one grail what do you do when it goes in for service, need a more casual beater, dress up more, etc?

Chadridv · 7 July 2016, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingair

The one with the most sense perhaps

But a good sale rep ?

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Haha good point. I'm not your average consumer but someone who has an actual opinion that I respect is more likely to gain my business than someone who pushes a product on you relentlessly to no end. Not saying anyone really enjoys that, but that aggressiveness is not what makes a good sales rep to me, despite that being how most sales reps are trained to be.

All I was saying really though was that it's rare to have a positive experience/conversation with a floor rep at tourneau, so this guy is already ahead of pack.

69mach351 · 8 July 2016, 12:07 AM

To each their own, but from a personal perspective, I agree to a point.

Unless we are talking about gifts, something that was purchased for a particular accomplishment (sentimental value), a rare/historical piece, etc., then (I think) the more pieces that you have, the less important each one becomes.

If I am going to spend a fair amount of money on a watch - far more than I need to for something that is probably less accurate than a $100 atomic G-shock, then the last thing I want it to become something that I do not have a passion for.

slorollin · 8 July 2016, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by vipereaper30

Complete sales pitch. What was he trying to upsell you on?

+X2 And it exemplifies why "salesmen (salespeople)" are universally mistrusted. We know we can expect statements that have to be sifted for substance.

Recently, at an AD I overheard a salesman tell a woman that he obviously had served before, "I dreamed of this design for you last night and wanted to let you know right away. I knew you would be in today."
She absolutely melted. He could have sold her 3 Mercedes and a mink right then.

7 July 2016, 08:44 AM	#35
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,516	I've got about 30 or so... I need more to be able to cover when a couple are in the shop.. I think that I'll go put on one of my several Exp II variants; I feel adventurous right now. (If my biggest accomplishment in life was a watch salesman at Tourneau, maybe I'd try to justify having only one watch - a cheap one) __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

7 July 2016, 09:35 AM	#41
sutats "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: London Posts: 1,225	It's a perfectly cool notion if one is happy to wear one's grail watch with any type of clothing and for any type of activity. __________________ There's no such thing as a Submariner No Date, it's simply Submariner. You don't call a Porsche 911 Turbo, a Porsche 911 Turbo No S. www.instagram.com/sutatshorology Post Your Rolex/Tudor Watch Weight (PYRTWW)

7 July 2016, 09:37 AM	#42
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,356	Sales pitch for sure. __________________

7 July 2016, 10:44 AM	#46
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7 July 2016, 10:55 AM	#47
Baco Noir "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: Colorado Watch: this ya'll Posts: 4,975	Sounds like he's looking for the biggest commission possible! __________________ Current Collection: Rolex 126619LB, 116710BLNR, and 216570 polar Explorer II; Omega Apollo 8 Speedmaster and Planet Ocean 42; Tudor BB Bronze Bucherer Blue Edition; Nomos Neomatik 42; Breitling Aerospace, Avenger Blackbird, & SuperOcean 44; Doxa 300 Pro Carbon; Stowa Limette; Laco Napa Flieger; Mickey Mouse Timex Electric; and dare I say it...an Apple Watch too

7 July 2016, 08:09 AM	#31
westinghouse Banned Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: New York Posts: 73	The salesman mentioned a client of his who owns a professional sports team (which one, he won't share) that bought an 18k gold sub from him and only wears that particular watch when they sign a new player. Every day the owner wears a Casio with a rubber strap. Those are the only 2 watches the man owns and he can afford to buy the Rolex building itself.

7 July 2016, 08:29 AM	#34
vman 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Capt Swerve Location: North Carolina Watch: less TV Posts: 2,230	Almost agree. Need at least 2: a dress one and a sport one.

7 July 2016, 09:31 AM	#39
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	It's an up sales pitch. Instead of trading normal priced watches he's suggesting you spend the most you possibly can, and then carry on trading. He's not saying get a Holy Grail and stick to it, no just to wear it until you are tired of it and want to trade it again and climb back on the now much more expensive merry go round. However the question of one Holy Grail v a few to wear in rotation is an interesting one and one that ofc is different for every individual. I would like to consolidate down to 3/4 in a Holy grail collection but can't see myself having just 1.

7 July 2016, 10:19 AM	#43
WristEnvy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Ray Location: Berkeley, CA Watch: IG @watch.kakashi Posts: 2,579	Don't think that sales pitch will work for everyone. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

7 July 2016, 11:10 AM	#49
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	Obviously he does not spend time here, if he did his philosophy would change quick. I was happy with 1 Rolex for many years. Did much like he described, wear it a few years and trade it in on a new one. After finding watch forums, watches became much more of an enjoyable hobby. At this point I would miss the hobby activity too much to only have one watch. __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

7 July 2016, 12:22 PM	#51
Star Ferry Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: down by the river Posts: 4,926	Maybe I'm a dummy who hits door jambs too often, but if I only had one watch it would be scratched, dented and in terrible condition. My rotation helps me keep my watches in decent shape

7 July 2016, 12:55 PM	#52
codecow "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: PP 5131R Posts: 5,197	Very wrong, watches require service. Would he make the same argument for clothes? A plain white shirt is all he ever needs? What about food? Pizza is good, let's eat pizza for every meal.

7 July 2016, 01:08 PM	#53
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	I think his statement was Iconic...... OK OK!... I promise I'll stop

7 July 2016, 01:12 PM	#54
vipereaper30 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: BMF Location: Tennessee USA Watch: FPJ UTC Posts: 2,263	Complete sales pitch. What was he trying to upsell you on?

7 July 2016, 02:39 PM	#55
daytonaTBR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: N/A Posts: 1,466	It really varies person to person. Sometimes I'm envious of people that can be content with just one watch

7 July 2016, 03:21 PM	#57
singe89 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jim Location: Orange County, CA Watch: Rolex, AP & Patek Posts: 3,747	I agree with quality over quantity but 1 Grail I would get bored of too quickly. I think 4-8 is the right number. When you start getting close to 8 it's time to start reviewing the collection and think about trading a few out to move up to something nicer. Only problem is when they all have sentimental value and you enjoy wearing all of them. Maybe 10 is a good number.... Also with one grail what do you do when it goes in for service, need a more casual beater, dress up more, etc?

8 July 2016, 12:07 AM	#59
69mach351 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Midwest Watch: 116900 Posts: 1,066	To each their own, but from a personal perspective, I agree to a point. Unless we are talking about gifts, something that was purchased for a particular accomplishment (sentimental value), a rare/historical piece, etc., then (I think) the more pieces that you have, the less important each one becomes. If I am going to spend a fair amount of money on a watch - far more than I need to for something that is probably less accurate than a $100 atomic G-shock, then the last thing I want it to become something that I do not have a passion for.

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