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primetime23 · 28 July 2008, 03:01 AM

Hi, I am new to RWF and trying to find a fairly new GMT Master II for quite some time now. I was wondering if anybody could share some thoughts, if this is real?

Many thanks in advance

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=014

Rockrolex · 28 July 2008, 03:58 AM

It is probably legit. The seller has been around for a while and has good feedback. Even though his latest sales have been for parts and accessories, he does sell a fair number of Rolexes. But, of course, you won't get an AD warranty, as he is a grey dealer. So if that's important to you, stick with an AD.

springer · 28 July 2008, 06:06 AM

I don't see the warranty card in the photos. I think the photos are too poor of quality to tell if it is real. Personallly, I would keep looking and forget this one.

stevemulholland3 · 28 July 2008, 06:15 AM

bad pics,but I think its most likely just fine.

Milgauss-Green · 28 July 2008, 06:20 AM

I sell in ebay but when I buy in ebay I only buy is the watch is 100 hundrer miles for my home,and then I see it and buy,even if the seller has a good reputation,many things can happen while the watch is delivered,thank you

Wolfgang427 · 28 July 2008, 06:24 AM

Watch is fine.

Warrenty papers(not card) are shown in picture.

primetime23 · 28 July 2008, 06:26 AM

Thanks guys for the quick replies and advice. Will contact the seller and ask him about warranty card

Terry Newton · 28 July 2008, 09:28 AM

Papers are there. Watch looks just fine.

Terry Newton

springer · 28 July 2008, 09:46 AM

Silly me, I was looking for the warranty card, not paper.

Letsgodiving · 28 July 2008, 10:41 AM

Funny how the only photo in focus is of the back of the watch. Is he saying the retail is $6800? Also, he states the bezel is unidirectional. I thought the GMT was bi-directional.

ji603 · 28 July 2008, 01:41 PM

Pics aren't the best, but it looks OK to me. Common fake indicators on GMTs are poor bezel numbers, wrong crown guards, bad bracelet, incorrect hand order (second/minute/GMT/hour) in order from top down, and a bad rolex crown on the clasp.

'Course, nothing guarantees that the watch in the pics is the one you'll get, but for my money, the pics are of a genuine GMTII

gtbike72 · 28 July 2008, 01:55 PM

Looks good

tudorman8276 · 29 July 2008, 10:20 AM

...."EYE"....

Stan.

pwrslider · 30 July 2008, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tudorman8276

...."EYE"....

Stan.

primetime23 · 30 July 2008, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letsgodiving

Funny how the only photo in focus is of the back of the watch. Is he saying the retail is $6800? Also, he states the bezel is unidirectional. I thought the GMT was bi-directional.

Guys, thanks for your thoughts and advice so far. To follow-up on Letsgodivings comment I asked the seller whether the bezel is really unidirectional only. He claims it moves counterclockwise only, isnt that odd or are there models that are only unidirectional?

many thanks

pwrslider · 30 July 2008, 07:24 PM

Should be bi directional....moves both ways!

Ed Rooney · 30 July 2008, 10:47 PM

I would keep looking. I don't think it's fake. I just think it's a bad deal.

28 July 2008, 03:01 AM	#1
primetime23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 12	Can you help a newbie figuring out, if this is real? Hi, I am new to RWF and trying to find a fairly new GMT Master II for quite some time now. I was wondering if anybody could share some thoughts, if this is real? Many thanks in advance http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=014

28 July 2008, 03:58 AM	#2
Rockrolex TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: God Location: Washington, D.C. Watch: What do you think? Posts: 37,966	It is probably legit. The seller has been around for a while and has good feedback. Even though his latest sales have been for parts and accessories, he does sell a fair number of Rolexes. But, of course, you won't get an AD warranty, as he is a grey dealer. So if that's important to you, stick with an AD. __________________ Despite the high cost of living, it's still very popular. *Tosser Cabinet Member* Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2019

28 July 2008, 06:06 AM	#3
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	I don't see the warranty card in the photos. I think the photos are too poor of quality to tell if it is real. Personallly, I would keep looking and forget this one. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

28 July 2008, 06:20 AM	#5
Milgauss-Green "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Fide Location: Miami,fl Watch: JLCoultre Master C Posts: 183	I sell in ebay but when I buy in ebay I only buy is the watch is 100 hundrer miles for my home,and then I see it and buy,even if the seller has a good reputation,many things can happen while the watch is delivered,thank you __________________ JAEGER-LECOULTRE Master Compressor Cronograph 175.84.7V xxx/746 Valentino Rossi 16613 Sub Serti,16710 Pepsi,16710 Coke, 116400 GV TX Worldtimer xx/100

28 July 2008, 09:28 AM	#8
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	Papers are there. Watch looks just fine. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

28 July 2008, 06:15 AM	#4
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	bad pics,but I think its most likely just fine.

28 July 2008, 06:24 AM	#6
Wolfgang427 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Wolfgang Location: New Jersey. Watch: Rolex Tudor Omega Posts: 5,592	Watch is fine. Warrenty papers(not card) are shown in picture.

28 July 2008, 06:26 AM	#7
primetime23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 12	Thanks guys for the quick replies and advice. Will contact the seller and ask him about warranty card

28 July 2008, 09:46 AM	#9
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Silly me, I was looking for the warranty card, not paper. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

28 July 2008, 10:41 AM	#10
Letsgodiving "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Virginia, US Watch: SD 16600 Posts: 4,319	Funny how the only photo in focus is of the back of the watch. Is he saying the retail is $6800? Also, he states the bezel is unidirectional. I thought the GMT was bi-directional. __________________ The fool, with all his other faults, has this also - he is always getting ready to live. - Epicurus (341–270 BC)

28 July 2008, 01:41 PM	#11
ji603 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Watch: GMT Master II Posts: 95	Pics aren't the best, but it looks OK to me. Common fake indicators on GMTs are poor bezel numbers, wrong crown guards, bad bracelet, incorrect hand order (second/minute/GMT/hour) in order from top down, and a bad rolex crown on the clasp. 'Course, nothing guarantees that the watch in the pics is the one you'll get, but for my money, the pics are of a genuine GMTII

28 July 2008, 01:55 PM	#12
gtbike72 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: j Location: LA Posts: 1,144	Looks good __________________

29 July 2008, 10:20 AM	#13
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	....all in agreement...say.... ...."EYE".... Stan.

30 July 2008, 07:24 PM	#16
pwrslider "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Steve Location: SF BAY AREA CA Watch: 16710 Coke Posts: 3,047	Should be bi directional....moves both ways! __________________ Rolex Blue TT Submariner (95) Rolex SS GMT IIc (08) Rolex GMT II 16710 COKE (08 for me..) Rolex Explorer II Blk (91) Breitling SuperOcean Steelfish (07) Panerai 104 & 177ti ( 04/03)

30 July 2008, 10:47 PM	#17
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	I would keep looking. I don't think it's fake. I just think it's a bad deal.

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