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Old 17 August 2016, 03:53 PM   #1
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I like the Coke, but hollow links..

I really dislike hollow center links. Was there a later model that had solid link bracelet?
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Old 17 August 2016, 04:09 PM   #2
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I'm pretty sure there wasn't. Hopefully Basel 2017 will give us a ceramic coke in SS
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Old 17 August 2016, 04:21 PM   #4
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I'm pretty sure there wasn't. Hopefully Basel 2017 will give us a ceramic coke in SS
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Old 17 August 2016, 05:59 PM   #5
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I really dislike hollow center links. Was there a later model that had solid link bracelet?
Today there are quite a few internet myths about the so called hollow link bracelets.This Internet term "hollow link" is a complete and utter misnomer all it means in the real world, is simply this. All the links are made from heavy solid gold or solid S.steel tubing and then formed into shape in a press. This leaves a void in the center, just like any other piece of tube,however, the tubes are still made from solid 18Ct gold or solid SS.

While the newer so called solid link bracelet might feel more substantial the newer type or so called solid links are still machined but they are machined with holes drilled right through the metal. So in the real world they are as well technically hollow but not to the same extent as the older type.And in every day wearing would doubt if any real difference in strength or longevity of life as long as you keep them clean.Now thats the simple answer in the life of any Rolex oyster bracelet keep it clean and wear a snug fit and they will last 20-30 years plus.

Some of my watches with the so called hollow links were used and abused as proper tool watches for years yet they show no sign of so called stretch or wear yes they are scratched but that's all.Even the older type Oyster bracelets have been stress tested and will take 525 lbs pressure before breaking and that's enough to seriously damage your wrist.
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Old 17 August 2016, 09:18 PM   #6
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At first I thought the ceramic GMT was better because of the solid links. But have sold it and now love my Coke. Yes, the links are hollow but they are lighter and don't have the polished centerlinks. It's a tradeoff but overall superior to the newer bracelet in my opinion.
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Old 17 August 2016, 10:29 PM   #7
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Only thing I do not like about the hollow link bracelet is the clasp. It failed me once in a big way. A perfect watch for me would have hollow links and the newer robust clasp.
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Old 17 August 2016, 10:52 PM   #8
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I don't like or dislike hollow links. Rather, I take in the watch as a whole in making my decisions.
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Old 17 August 2016, 11:15 PM   #9
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For me it's not really hollow/solid as much as I prefer the weight and feel of the current bracelet. Not to mention the clasp improvements!


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Old 17 August 2016, 11:21 PM   #10
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I never understand why anyone would want a heavier watch or bracelet. The weight is why I prefer the older bracelet and tuna can clasp.
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Old 17 August 2016, 11:22 PM   #11
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Today there are quite a few internet myths about the so called hollow link bracelets.This Internet term "hollow link" is a complete and utter misnomer all it means in the real world, is simply this. All the links are made from heavy solid gold or solid S.steel tubing and then formed into shape in a press. This leaves a void in the center, just like any other piece of tube,however, the tubes are still made from solid 18Ct gold or solid SS.

While the newer so called solid link bracelet might feel more substantial the newer type or so called solid links are still machined but they are machined with holes drilled right through the metal. So in the real world they are as well technically hollow but not to the same extent as the older type.And in every day wearing would doubt if any real difference in strength or longevity of life as long as you keep them clean.Now thats the simple answer in the life of any Rolex oyster bracelet keep it clean and wear a snug fit and they will last 20-30 years plus.

Some of my watches with the so called hollow links were used and abused as proper tool watches for years yet they show no sign of so called stretch or wear yes they are scratched but that's all.Even the older type Oyster bracelets have been stress tested and will take 525 lbs pressure before breaking and that's enough to seriously damage your wrist.
Just out of curiosity, how do you know the precise breaking point of an Oyster bracelet? That is some seriously deep trivia.
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Old 17 August 2016, 11:56 PM   #12
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I don't get how hollow links are constantly brought up as a negative? The weight of a 16710 is perfect. I don't need some heavy dangling tool watch.
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I like my Coke but I was a bit sad that Dan hasn't checked in yet with a picture of his jubilee!
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Old 18 August 2016, 01:02 AM   #14
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I don't like or dislike hollow links. Rather, I take in the watch as a whole in making my decisions.
Agree, Mike.

And I would add that the overall adjustability and comfort/fit of the bracelet would play much more of a role in my decision making process.
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I don't get how hollow links are constantly brought up as a negative? The weight of a 16710 is perfect. I don't need some heavy dangling tool watch.
Agree but afraid in today's age bigger heavier is always better, but those with a bit more intelligence know this is not always the case,
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Old 18 August 2016, 01:41 AM   #16
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My 16710's bracelet is solid as a rock. If you get the solid end link one the difference to the new 'vastly superior ugraded' one is minimal - A tiny void that you can hardly see and the couple of missing milligrams weight difference. I'm not sure if this is true or not but I read somewhere that there are more stages in manufacturing to make links this way thus they were harder to replicate.
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Old 18 August 2016, 01:58 AM   #17
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Agree but afraid in today's age bigger heavier is always better, but those with a bit more intelligence know this is not always the case,
I think if these people would wear one of the older GMT's for a week they would quickly realize how comfortable their weight really is. If someone wants some heavy safe queen that's fine, but when it comes to a watch you are going to wear constantly in all situations (like a tool watch) you appreciated it's weight. It's heavy enough to let you know it's a quality watch but still light enough to "stay out of the way" when you are working, swimming, running, etc.
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Old 18 August 2016, 02:44 AM   #19
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I like the Coke, but hollow links..

I feel like they are gonna make the Coke in platinum as well. Prices on the 16710 already seem to be increasing. I think ima go ahead and bite the bullet and purchase a 16710 (D or Z serial) before Basel 2017.






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Old 18 August 2016, 04:11 AM   #20
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People talking about a PT watch with a dive style bezel are pretty far out there. So far Rolex has done a DD with a smooth bezel, and a Daytona with a ceramic bezel. I haven't seen anything to suggest that Rolex has the ability or interest to make a machined bezel out of PT.

Regarding the links. One is machined from billet and the other is pressed from tubing. If that matters to you, I'd like to hear why.
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People talking about a PT watch with a dive style bezel are pretty far out there. So far Rolex has done a DD with a smooth bezel, and a Daytona with a ceramic bezel. I haven't seen anything to suggest that Rolex has the ability or interest to make a machined bezel out of PT.

Regarding the links. One is machined from billet and the other is pressed from tubing. If that matters to you, I'd like to hear why.


Would you have said that a white gold pepsi was "pretty far out there" before Baselworld 2014?
I think if they do a SS coke it will cannibalize the BLRO sales.


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Old 18 August 2016, 05:25 AM   #22
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I think if these people would wear one of the older GMT's for a week they would quickly realize how comfortable their weight really is. If someone wants some heavy safe queen that's fine, but when it comes to a watch you are going to wear constantly in all situations (like a tool watch) you appreciated it's weight. It's heavy enough to let you know it's a quality watch but still light enough to "stay out of the way" when you are working, swimming, running, etc.
No kidding. I've never once wished my 16610 was heavier. I'm not a small guy, but, if anything, I'd wish it was lighter. I love wearing it on a strap.
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I'm pretty sure there wasn't. Hopefully Basel 2017 will give us a ceramic coke in SS
Don't hold your breath.
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Old 18 August 2016, 06:00 AM   #25
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Today there are quite a few internet myths about the so called hollow link bracelets.This Internet term "hollow link" is a complete and utter misnomer all it means in the real world, is simply this. All the links are made from heavy solid gold or solid S.steel tubing and then formed into shape in a press. This leaves a void in the center, just like any other piece of tube,however, the tubes are still made from solid 18Ct gold or solid SS.

While the newer so called solid link bracelet might feel more substantial the newer type or so called solid links are still machined but they are machined with holes drilled right through the metal. So in the real world they are as well technically hollow but not to the same extent as the older type.And in every day wearing would doubt if any real difference in strength or longevity of life as long as you keep them clean.Now thats the simple answer in the life of any Rolex oyster bracelet keep it clean and wear a snug fit and they will last 20-30 years plus.

Some of my watches with the so called hollow links were used and abused as proper tool watches for years yet they show no sign of so called stretch or wear yes they are scratched but that's all.Even the older type Oyster bracelets have been stress tested and will take 525 lbs pressure before breaking and that's enough to seriously damage your wrist.
This.

So many people discount the older style bracelet. All I know is that it is lite and has worked like it is supposed to. Do I believe the new bracelet is an improvement, absolutely, but I would not NOT buy a watch if it had the older style bracelet. The tuna can style bracelet is wonderful in its own right.
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I recall many years back on another forum someone brushing a Daytona bracelet and fitting it to a 16710.

I do find the heavier bracelets balance better if you wear your watch loose at all, which I prefer to do on the older models since there is no quick adjust mechanism like on the 116710 or a glide lock on the Subs.
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I have the same problem as the OP. Could you put a newer bracelet on a 16710?
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I like the Coke, but hollow links..

hollow links bracelets are sublime
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Uh, no - not at all. Rolex clearly can make a machined bezel out of gold and the technology for two color inserts was already out there. Once word leaked about the price of the insert WG was a no brainer.

I'm happy to be wrong about the PT diver style watch. I hope you are as well.
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Uh, no - not at all. Rolex clearly can make a machined bezel out of gold and the technology for two color inserts was already out there. Once word leaked about the price of the insert WG was a no brainer.

I'm happy to be wrong about the PT diver style watch. I hope you are as well.
Isn't the SS Yacht-Master bezel machined PT? I can't remember if there was a definitive answer as to whether the entire bezel or just the insert was PT.
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