Looking to buy an Explorer 2

[DocHorton]

Mick,

Every watch purchased from a trusted seller came through the hands of an AD. Nothing wrong with trying one on to get a feel for it. If AD's wanted to sell more watches they could easily do so by giving the same discounts. They CHOOSE their business model just like TS's choose theirs.

[Saoirse32]

Originally Posted by DocHorton

Mick,

Every watch purchased from a trusted seller came through the hands of an AD. Nothing wrong with trying one on to get a feel for it. If AD's wanted to sell more watches they could easily do so by giving the same discounts. They CHOOSE their business model just like TS's choose theirs.

Indeed!

[ferrissteve11]

No different than trying on a pair of shoes or a jacket at a store for sizing and buy elsewhere. People want the most with their money and whether they choose an AD or TRF trusted seller is their call. Personally the previous 2 watches I purchased I needed to both see and try on prior, even though I knew I wasn't purchasing that exact day. What about taking a car for a test ride...same concept. And someone else made the comment: 'that's part of retail'...was a store manager for a few years and trying something out is part of the game.

[emersm]

Originally Posted by Justinmg

We all have opinions, but calling someone unethical because you disagree with there actions (which involves just trying on a watch) is rude and shouldn't be tolerated on this forum. As far as a hobby, I can't speak for anyone on here but for me, watches are very much a hobby and passion. The business you described sounds just like every Rolex AD I have been in and that's why I would never give them my business.

I did not call you unethical as I do not know you. My comment said "I suppose ethics are subjective" meaning that some people will find it ok and some will not. You, calling me rude, should not be tolerated on this forum. Like YOU said, we all have opinions.

[Mick P]

Chaps

You have to be fair, the ADs do operate at a disadvantage in the sense they are selling one offs in the local high street and Rolex will not permit telephone or online sales etc.

The Grey Dealer will source his watches by offering a foreign AD a very low price for a high volume sale in a country such as the UK or Italy where prices are currently the lowest. Next week it will be somewhere else.

That is fine, it is a perfectly acceptable business model and there is nothing wrong with it. Rolex do nothing to prevent it, so in a way it suits them.

I recently bought my wife a YG 31mm Datejust with diamond markers and saved myself £8000 (say $12,000) by buying from a Grey Dealer. However when I was in the AD, I haggled with him for nearly 15 minutes and got nowhere, I told him the Grey Dealer price and explained I would rather buy local but was not prepared to pay a massive difference, but I was prepared to pay some difference. He stuck to his guns and said no discount.

I therefore took my wife for a day out and bought from a Grey Dealer. This is, in my opinion, fine because I gave the AD the opportunity to move on price and he declined. We shook hands and parted. Everything was above board and honest.

What I would never do is go into an ADs shop, try on everything going and then walk out without giving him a chance to quote a price before buying from a Grey Dealer. That is plain unethical and if you cannot see that, then so be it.

Regards

Mick

[dberman3]

Great watch, but it does wear a bit big and is also a bit heavy. That said, I wear one all the time and love it! I've considered getting a 16570 40mm as I love the feel and weight of a 40mm on my wrist which is 6.75".

I'd go into a reputable pre-owned shop, try on both and buy which ever one feels best on your wrist.


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[mailman]

Originally Posted by dberman3

Great watch, but it does wear a bit big and is also a bit heavy. That said, I wear one all the time and love it! I've considered getting a 16570 40mm as I love the feel and weight of a 40mm on my wrist which is 6.75".

I'd go into a reputable pre-owned shop, try on both and buy which ever one feels best on your wrist.


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To me it doesn't feel heavy. Weight wise it feels more like a 5 digit Sub or GMTII on my wrist.

[Justinmg]

Originally Posted by emersm

I did not call you unethical as I do not know you. My comment said "I suppose ethics are subjective" meaning that some people will find it ok and some will not. You, calling me rude, should not be tolerated on this forum. Like YOU said, we all have opinions.

We are both talking about a comment made by mick. Nothing you said was rude and I don't think you called me unethical.

[emersm]

Originally Posted by Justinmg

We are both talking about a comment made by mick. Nothing you said was rude and I don't think you called me unethical.

Thank you. The last thing I want to do is upset people on this forum.
Everyone have a great weekend!

[218225]

Originally Posted by cwmehring

I'm looking to buy an explorer II 216570. Is there anything I should be looking out for? Any advice on purchasing my first Rolex?


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Just buy it:) Is bigger then the rest, but doesn't look and feel bigger. It is easy to read, the lume is amazing and the bracelet comfortable.

Personally I would buy a new one and get my name on the card. That is what I did.
And to be honest, given the prices for pre-owned / loved/ second hand or whatever - I'd probably buy from an AD / grey dealer again.

[emersm]

Originally Posted by cwmehring

I'm looking to buy an explorer II 216570. Is there anything I should be looking out for? Any advice on purchasing my first Rolex?


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Let me preface my comment with this: I am a guy who loves the weight, size and feel of the 5 digit model numbers. That being said, I purchased my Polar 216570 about a month ago and could not be happier. The first week of wearing it I had mixed feelings as it took a few days to get used to the size (it is a substantial piece). Now, after wearing it off and on for about a month, I have come to the conclusion that it is superior with respect to readability and has great wrist presence.
Good luck with your decision and I apologize for hijacking your thread, earlier.
Cheers!

[caprebels]

Explorer II is a great watch, I tried it on at a few AD's. I have a 7.25" wrist and it looked great. Almost bought it but when I was able to find a BLNR, I was swayed in that direction.

A pics when I tried on the EXP II at the AD. Fills out the wrist.

[218225]

Originally Posted by caprebels

Explorer II is a great watch, I tried it on at a few AD's. I have a 7.25" wrist and it looked great. Almost bought it but when I was able to find a BLNR, I was swayed in that direction.

A pics when I tried on the EXP II at the AD. Fills out the wrist.

And here are a few pictures of it on my wrist. I am 1,97m tall with matching bones no idea om my wrist size but I believe they added a link on the bracleket to make it fit properly.

And it also looks stunning on a nato!

[pgrandster]

Traded my 6 year old Sub-C for it this past May. It's a beautiful and unique piece.

[218225]

Originally Posted by 218225

And here are a few pictures of it on my wrist. I am 1,97m tall with matching bones no idea om my wrist size but I believe they added a link on the bracleket to make it fit properly.

And it also looks stunning on a nato!

Just checked. It has 13 links installed

[BrummyJames]

I adore my Polar 👍

[screwj]

I think even if an AD did not sell a particular brand watch even though they spent the time to show a customer, it is still promoting the brand, and indirectly helping retail. There has to be a mutual benefit to supporting that brand regardless where it was purchased. It continues to support Rolex's longevity in the marketplace by keeping demand high, and Rolexes don't just appear in the marketplace without the ADs, if I understand correctly.