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Old 5 December 2016, 12:58 PM   #1
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Sheaffer's Triumph Nibs

For the life of me I don't understand why the Triumph nib went the way of the 8 track tape and the dodo bird.

I wish they would return! Incredible!

I am privileged to own about 20 of these Sheaffer's and there is not a one of them that are 2nd rate. You have to appreciate what they did back then!

Please give us a new FP with this nib!





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Old 5 December 2016, 04:24 PM   #2
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Easy, there is a lot more gold in those nibs.
They typically weigh 1 gram. The nibs that the conical nib replaced typically weighed .50 grams.
The nib that replaced the conical nib used the body of the pen to stiffen it and I believed
they weighed .20 or .30, not sure, they are not removable.
Times that by 200,000 pens a year I believe they sold in there hay day, (can't sight anything but that number is stuck in my head frim some where) and you have 4,800 ounces of gold, and the money that would cost, that was saved.
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Old 5 December 2016, 05:31 PM   #3
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Easy, there is a lot more gold in those nibs.
They typically weigh 1 gram. The nibs that the conical nib replaced typically weighed .50 grams.
The nib that replaced the conical nib used the body of the pen to stiffen it and I believed
they weighed .20 or .30, not sure, they are not removable.
Times that by 200,000 pens a year I believe they sold in there hay day, (can't sight anything but that number is stuck in my head frim some where) and you have 4,800 ounces of gold, and the money that would cost, that was saved.
Sooo micj!!!!

Now is the time to say goodbye old friend!

Now!!!
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Old 5 December 2016, 10:27 PM   #4
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It did return in the Balance 2 family but that too went away. But who know, even zombies deserve to have a life it seems.
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Old 6 December 2016, 02:28 AM   #5
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Nice OP. Beautiful pens. My dad used to have Sheaffer fountain pens. Never a Parker. My mom had Parkers.

After the OP and the explanation of the weight of gold going in the nibs I lost track of the thread. MCIJ...?? Balance 2...?? Zombies...??
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After the OP and the explanation of the weight of gold going in the nibs I lost track of the thread. MCIJ...?? Balance 2...?? Zombies...??
I was kind of wondering about that to. I thought MCIJ was some blog acronym that I was ignorant of. But could not find any definition on the internet.
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Nice OP. Beautiful pens. My dad used to have Sheaffer fountain pens. Never a Parker. My mom had Parkers.

After the OP and the explanation of the weight of gold going in the nibs I lost track of the thread. MCIJ...?? Balance 2...?? Zombies...??
Sheaffer's Balance pens were the first cigar shaped streamlined pens introduced in 1929. All the other makers copied the Sheaffer design.

The wrap around Triumph nib was introduced by Sheaffer in 1942.

When the Sheaffer inlaid nib was introduced we saw the Triumph nib gradually disappear.

Both the Sheaffer Balance and the Triumph nib were dead.

Then in 1989 Sheaffer introduced a new pen using the wrap around Triumph nib also resurrecting the model name Crest. It was made until 1998 and then Sheaffer introduced the Balance 2 but with an open nib instead of a Triumph nib.

The undead returned.
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Sheaffer's Balance pens were the first cigar shaped streamlined pens introduced in 1929. All the other makers copied the Sheaffer design.

The wrap around Triumph nib was introduced by Sheaffer in 1942.

When the Sheaffer inlaid nib was introduced we saw the Triumph nib gradually disappear.

Both the Sheaffer Balance and the Triumph nib were dead.

Then in 1989 Sheaffer introduced a new pen using the wrap around Triumph nib also resurrecting the model name Crest. It was made until 1998 and then Sheaffer introduced the Balance 2 but with an open nib instead of a Triumph nib.

The undead returned.
This is like poetry, only for the initiated. Thank you so much for the thorough and fruitful explanation.
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Old 7 December 2016, 02:09 PM   #9
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This is like poetry, only for the initiated. Thank you so much for the thorough and fruitful explanation.
Agreed! Great information!
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Sheaffer today is a shell of what it once was...
Sad..
I think the snorkel filling system may be the most brilliant ever...doubt we will ever see that again...
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Sheaffer today is a shell of what it once was...
Sad..
I think the snorkel filling system may be the most brilliant ever...doubt we will ever see that again...
The unfortunate fact that Sheaffer was purchased by Bic in 1997 for 50 million and then sold by Bic to A.T. Cross in 2014 for 15 million has not done the line any favors to say the least and the obvious.

The good thing about vintage Sheaffer writing instruments is that they were made remarkably well. And I have many that are as beautiful and functional as they day they left the factory back in the 30s, through the 50s and even some in the 60s.

The Pen for Men is one of my favorite fountain pens. I have owned several sets in what appeared to be in their original spring cases which were also built to a quality that you just don't see often today. It would be a great thing if Sheaffer would revive some of their classic designs like the PFM like they did with the Balance II (an example would be the Sheaffer Aspen). The Balance IIs command a hefty price and most collectors don't mind paying a premium for it.

Who knows. Perhaps they will revive the Triumph nib at some point. If they do I know I would likely add several.

Sheaffer PFM:

These came in sever configs. I particularly favor PFM V






Sheaffer Aspen:



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I must attend one of the big pen shows in 2017.
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The good thing about vintage Sheaffer writing instruments is that they were made remarkably well. And I have many that are as beautiful and functional as they day they left the factory back in the 30s, through the 50s and even some in the

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Nice photos. I have a set from the 70's that is beautiful. Sheaffer's Imperial Masterpiece in 18kt. It's a 3 piece set: Fountain, Roller and Pencil.
I thought I had some photos but must have deleted them. When I take some I will post them.
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