Very disappointed with basel 2017

[Lordofrolex]

I know this is going to be a thousand of these but i couldn't stop myself from saying. I am really disappointed in this years basel 2017.

PM daytona's C on a rubber with no option of being on a bracelet. I would love a YG daytona C on a bracelet.

SS and TT SkyDweller. Personally diminishes the PM models of the SkyD. The SkyD is suppose to be rolex grand movement. Still holding its value at over 30k on the grey market. Which only the pearlmasters, and platinum models are above. Made it seem like they didn't sell any SkyD and has so many movements left over they decided putting it on steel would be the best thing to get rid of these leftover movements.

YMII they change the hands and dial. Im not impressed I would still buy the old version and i don't even think the older version is going to move in price on the secondary market as the change are so minimal no ones going to care.

Lastly, the SD is a nice watch but at 43mm it way to big for me for me.

[Dustytrail]

I agree, especially the petty changes to the clownmaster - a model not many people would care or buy

I was also hoping that the new SD would have a matte dial to go with the single red in order to be a true homage... BUT NOPE! AND INSTEAD YOU GET CYCLOPS WITH IT.

[Star Ferry]

Originally Posted by Dustytrail

I agree, especially the petty changes to the clownmaster - a model not many people would care or buy

I was also hoping that the new SD would have a matte dial to go with the single red in order to be a true homage... BUT NOPE! AND INSTEAD YOU GET CYCLOPS WITH IT.

Most Rolex customers aren't WIS. Cyclops screams "Rolex" and that's what the average Rolex customer wants when they spend 10 grand on a watch. The new Sea Dweller will sell like hotcakes

[seand442]

Similar sentiments, especially towards the SD. While I think the lack of a cyclops would have differentiated it from the sub, I can understand why they would do it. Joe Everyman wants people to know he has his Rolex and the best way to do that is with the cyclops. As far as the Sky-Dweller, I think its basic economics of today. PM watches aren't selling and if you can sell 10 TT sky dwellers or 1 PM, the answer is simple. $$$$$$$

[Bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by Dustytrail

I agree, especially the petty changes to the clownmaster - a model not many people would care or buy

I was also hoping that the new SD would have a matte dial to go with the single red in order to be a true homage... BUT NOPE! AND INSTEAD YOU GET CYCLOPS WITH IT.

The SD does have a matte dial doesn't it?

[sensui]

To be fair, there are other brands making good watches outside of Rolex. So not need to be so disappointed. They had a killer showing last year and I'm not too surprised they want to slow their roll to keep up the interest on the pieces unveiled last year (especially some of it is still hot like the new Daytona).

[Glidelock]

Have to agree from a consumer WIS standpoint. Selfishly I was also hoping the 116610 LVC Green Sub would be discontinued and a SS Ceramic Coke would be released. That said, from the Companies positions I feel like they have all the time in he world to stretch out both of those options!

[blue16613]

Originally Posted by sensui

To be fair, there are other brands making good watches outside of Rolex. So not need to be so disappointed. They had a killer showing last year and I'm not too surprised they want to slow their roll to keep up the interest on the pieces unveiled last year (especially some of it is still hot like the new Daytona).

This is a great point. Makes terrific sense. Why leave a fantastic party at 9pm?

[lig]

I'm actually glad they didn't release anything that I had to have.

Doubtful that a SS Coke will be here anytime in the near future.

Pretty sure that they wouldn't have released the SS SKD if it were a big seller in PM.

[jagwap]

Originally Posted by sensui

To be fair, there are other brands making good watches outside of Rolex. So not need to be so disappointed. They had a killer showing last year and I'm not too surprised they want to slow their roll to keep up the interest on the pieces unveiled last year (especially some of it is still hot like the new Daytona).

Excellent point. Many other brands with better options.

Rolex is years behind on the large watch trend. Many are going smaller, such as Panerai, IWC,

[brucethemanlee]

not disappointed but wasn't exactly jumping to pick up phone to call my AD either..

considering in past 3 months, i have gotten SD4K and DaytonaC into my stable...i am PERFECTLY content. nothing from Rolex today will take the shine off my recent purchases :-)

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Bigsykedaddy

The SD does have a matte dial doesn't it?

Nope, not any more it doesn't.

[versatile1]

Originally Posted by Star Ferry

Most Rolex customers aren't WIS. Cyclops screams "Rolex" and that's what the average Rolex customer wants when they spend 10 grand on a watch. The new Sea Dweller will sell like hotcakes

[vladamir15]

You didn't like the Cellini or the new white dials for the dd40? I thought the Cellini was a beautiful watch, despite its high price. The yg white dial dd40 has been something I've been hoping for.

[Bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by Dirt

Nope, not any more it doesn't.

Crazy I didn't even notice it, It doesn't look glossy from pictures (to me at least) probably because I just expected it to be matte.

[Glidelock]

Originally Posted by Dustytrail

I agree, especially the petty changes to the clownmaster - a model not many people would care or buy

I was also hoping that the new SD would have a matte dial to go with the single red in order to be a true homage... BUT NOPE! AND INSTEAD YOU GET CYCLOPS WITH IT.

Originally Posted by Bigsykedaddy

The SD does have a matte dial doesn't it?

Originally Posted by Dirt

Nope, not any more it doesn't.

Originally Posted by Bigsykedaddy

Crazy I didn't even notice it, It doesn't look glossy from pictures (to me at least) probably because I just expected it to be matte.

I think the jury is still out on this because there is conflicting information out there on this.

I have personally started a thread last night asking someone who's actually seen the new SDC43 in person at Basel to confirm that it does truly in fact have a glossy dial...and so far have not had anyone whom has seen it confirm!

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by Lordofrolex

SS and TT SkyDweller.

I don't find that sad; I'm really glad. What will be sad is if they still don't sell.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Lordofrolex

I know this is going to be a thousand of these but i couldn't stop myself from saying. I am really disappointed in this years basel 2017.

PM daytona's C on a rubber with no option of being on a bracelet. I would love a YG daytona C on a bracelet.

SS and TT SkyDweller. Personally diminishes the PM models of the SkyD. The SkyD is suppose to be rolex grand movement. Still holding its value at over 30k on the grey market. Which only the pearlmasters, and platinum models are above. Made it seem like they didn't sell any SkyD and has so many movements left over they decided putting it on steel would be the best thing to get rid of these leftover movements.

YMII they change the hands and dial. Im not impressed I would still buy the old version and i don't even think the older version is going to move in price on the secondary market as the change are so minimal no ones going to care.

Lastly, the SD is a nice watch but at 43mm it way to big for me for me.

Myself have been disappointed with Basel over the past 15 years this years no exception.Some go mad for a slightly bigger case and coloured fonds,sure now Rolex have introduced the cal 3235 but not before time the cal 3135 was almost 40 years old.Will the cal 3235 be better well you have a few more hours power-reserve but will it be more accurate IMHO it's doubtful but a change was needed.But like Rolex over the past 15 most changes are purely cosmetic to the line up but some go mad over a ceramic insert and nothing more thank god Basel is over.

[chemistman]

Actually I am not disappointed at all. Was worried Rolex might come out with a ss coke gmt or something awesome like that.

Now I can look at my BLNR and sub C and rejoice !!

[cdbeaver66]

I think it is strange they have used the Sub hands on the YMII but am happy that the SkyD is available as a TT.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by sensui

To be fair, there are other brands making good watches outside of Rolex. So not need to be so disappointed. They had a killer showing last year and I'm not too surprised they want to slow their roll to keep up the interest on the pieces unveiled last year (especially some of it is still hot like the new Daytona).

I would think that every company would want a killer showing every year. Fortunately for Rolex they can roll on their name. They manage to get the better part of the civilized world to think they are the best and most prestigious brand from everyone from gangsters to corporate executives. I guess when you have that type of name recognition you don't have to have a killer showing. Too bad. But as some of you stated I too am personally glad because I will not have to buy a Rolex this year. I would have bought the coke.

[Exploradori]

Agree on the disappointment with Rolex (and yeah, even Tudor).

Guys: take a look at Gran Seiko today. Wow. This brand is really growing on me.


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[Onikage]

Yes...

[1William]

I agree with being disappointed with Basel 17 from Rolex. Now Tag and Seiko are strong.

[RICHARD_LEWIS]

Not overwhelmed, but like that the SkyDweller is now available as SS or TT

[Yousefsl]

I think we'll all feeling

[Slider817]

I'm pretty exited about the steel Skydweller. Never thought that would happen.

Don't really care for the Oysterflex, it should just. Be sold as an add on option, not as a seller are watch.

Sea Dweller is nice, and makes more sense in the line up, as it's now more separate from the Sub, now the Sub XL

[Bluside]

To me, the winner this year is the Datejust 41 in stainless.

[Trailblazer]

I'm thankful I got my SD4 and looking out for models in it original stable

[bostonrecruit]

the whole Rolex presence at Basel was a let down. What the hell were they thinking? This would all go over well? I talked to two ADs yesterday that were totally disappointed with the releases and say these models will struggle.