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RICARDOVASCO · 2 April 2017, 12:45 AM

Hi. All Im looking for a black case watch for so long to wear daily . I saw in person the Panerai 643 in St Barth and really like its simplicity ( also liked a lot its strap). However I saw the "new" (not sure if its really new ) Franck Muller Vanguard which really took my attention as well. I only saw it online.
Could you guys tell me your fav one, comparing beauty , quality , value depreciation, machine,etc .

Franck Muller Vanguard

Panerai 643

Thank you all!

GB-man · 2 April 2017, 12:58 AM

Radiomir for me. It's simply much better looking in my humble opinion.

I would guess it will depreciate less than the FM as well. I'm no expert on panerai or FM.

RICARDOVASCO · 2 April 2017, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Radiomir for me. It's simply much better looking in my humble opinion.

I would guess it will depreciate less than the FM as well. I'm no expert on panerai or FM.

Thanks Tom!

Thatguy · 2 April 2017, 01:48 AM

Another panerai vote.

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Muzz · 2 April 2017, 02:56 AM

I prefer the FM in SS. Between those choices the PAM hands down.

The FM at a deep discount is a bargain however you need to know it is a keeper going in.

Oddly I am probably going to add the white SS Vanguard to my collection as the price is attractive.

namussuz bilo · 2 April 2017, 03:09 AM

Pam

RICARDOVASCO · 2 April 2017, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Thatguy

Another panerai vote.

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Thanks Wayne!

RICARDOVASCO · 2 April 2017, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Muzz

I prefer the FM in SS. Between those choices the PAM hands down.

The FM at a deep discount is a bargain however you need to know it is a keeper going in.

Oddly I am probably going to add the white SS Vanguard to my collection as the price is attractive.

Thanks Steve. The FM is offered by shops for 8,200 usd + . However I found a lot of people selling it new for 5.500 and used for 4..4500 usd.
The Pam 643 cost 6k usd ( Jomashop) and I couldn't find a mint one.

RICARDOVASCO · 2 April 2017, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by namussuz bilo

Pam

Thanks namussuz bilo!

Muzz · 2 April 2017, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RICARDOVASCO

Thanks Steve. The FM is offered by shops for 8,200 usd + . However I found a lot of people selling it new for 5.500 and used for 4..4500 usd.
The Pam 643 cost 6k usd ( Jomashop) and I couldn't find a mint one.

Anytime Ricardo

I have seen the FM over here in Singapore as low as 5300 new so I would avoid anything over that.

I understand the difficulty finding a mint 643 as most buyers really do wear them so it would be a struggle.

Hope you can find a deal that is impossible to pass up

breitlings · 2 April 2017, 06:17 AM

I vote FM

RICARDOVASCO · 2 April 2017, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by breitlings

I vote FM

Thanks breathings! First one who voted FM!

nick c · 2 April 2017, 08:10 AM

Panerai by far

superdog · 2 April 2017, 08:17 AM

I liken both.

Cru Jones · 2 April 2017, 09:46 AM

643....such a beauty.

RICARDOVASCO · 2 April 2017, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nick c

Panerai by far

Thanks nick c!

RICARDOVASCO · 2 April 2017, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by superdog

I liken both.

Thanks Seth!

RICARDOVASCO · 2 April 2017, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

643....such a beauty.

Thanks Cru Jones!

Knappo 1307 · 2 April 2017, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

643....such a beauty.

Surprise...

RICARDOVASCO · 2 April 2017, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

Surprise...

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Knappo 1307 · 2 April 2017, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RICARDOVASCO

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Cru is a huge Panerai fan, as myself....

RICARDOVASCO · 2 April 2017, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

Cru is a huge Panerai fan, as myself....

oh, nice! Do you guys like this model ? I've never seen someone wearing that. Even here, no posts, pics, etc.

Knappo 1307 · 2 April 2017, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RICARDOVASCO

oh, nice! Do you guys like this model ? I've never seen someone wearing that. Even here, no posts, pics, etc.

I haven't, but would wear it in a second..

psv · 2 April 2017, 12:09 PM

I'm afraid neither speaks to me enough to be able to recommend one over the other. If I had to chose, I'd go Panerai.

mfer · 2 April 2017, 12:42 PM

Like there is a choice.

Goes with every strap btw.

GB-man · 2 April 2017, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mfer

Like there is a choice.

Goes with every strap btw.

Damn mik that's a slick setup

RICARDOVASCO · 2 April 2017, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by psv

I'm afraid neither speaks to me enough to be able to recommend one over the other. If I had to chose, I'd go Panerai.

Thanks Patrick!

RICARDOVASCO · 2 April 2017, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mfer

Like there is a choice.

Goes with every strap btw.

Amazing pic Mik! I like the way I can replace the straps for other colors/models.

RICARDOVASCO · 2 April 2017, 11:12 PM

I got already the AP 15400 black which the dial is similar to the 643. Would you guys change your choices because that ?

Squalex · 3 April 2017, 12:04 AM

That rad is gorgeous, another vote for the Panerai

2 April 2017, 12:45 AM	#1
RICARDOVASCO "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Ricardo Location: Brasil Posts: 248	Franck Muller Vanguard vs Panerai 643 Hi. All Im looking for a black case watch for so long to wear daily . I saw in person the Panerai 643 in St Barth and really like its simplicity ( also liked a lot its strap). However I saw the "new" (not sure if its really new ) Franck Muller Vanguard which really took my attention as well. I only saw it online. Could you guys tell me your fav one, comparing beauty , quality , value depreciation, machine,etc . Franck Muller Vanguard Panerai 643 Thank you all!

2 April 2017, 08:17 AM	#14
superdog 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: nj Watch: Omega Posts: 24,833	I liken both. __________________ If happiness is a state of mind, why look anywhere else for it? IG: gsmotorclub IG: thesawcollection (Both mostly just car stuff)

2 April 2017, 12:42 PM	#25
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	Like there is a choice. Goes with every strap btw. __________________ member#3242

2 April 2017, 12:58 AM	#2
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	Radiomir for me. It's simply much better looking in my humble opinion. I would guess it will depreciate less than the FM as well. I'm no expert on panerai or FM.

2 April 2017, 01:48 AM	#4
Thatguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Wayne Location: California Watch: Rolex, PAM Posts: 3,302	Another panerai vote. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 April 2017, 02:56 AM	#5
Muzz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Steve Location: TO CAD, HCMC VN Watch: MP 18946 Posts: 7,292	I prefer the FM in SS. Between those choices the PAM hands down. The FM at a deep discount is a bargain however you need to know it is a keeper going in. Oddly I am probably going to add the white SS Vanguard to my collection as the price is attractive.

2 April 2017, 03:09 AM	#6
namussuz bilo Banned Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: earth Posts: 794	Pam

2 April 2017, 06:17 AM	#11
breitlings Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Bethesda Watch: Apple TV Posts: 5,744	I vote FM

2 April 2017, 08:10 AM	#13
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Panerai by far

2 April 2017, 09:46 AM	#15
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,298	643....such a beauty.

2 April 2017, 12:09 PM	#24
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	I'm afraid neither speaks to me enough to be able to recommend one over the other. If I had to chose, I'd go Panerai.

2 April 2017, 11:12 PM	#29
RICARDOVASCO "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Ricardo Location: Brasil Posts: 248	I got already the AP 15400 black which the dial is similar to the 643. Would you guys change your choices because that ?

3 April 2017, 12:04 AM	#30
Squalex "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Canada Watch: Pam 510 Posts: 53	That rad is gorgeous, another vote for the Panerai

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