114060 won't manually wind

[Jjcs]

Hi all

I've a 2 month old 114060 submariner. I grabbed yesterday after not wearing it for a week and gave it a couple of winds to get it going, and I noticed there was minimal friction. I gave it much more manual winding than it should need - it won't run. There's far less friction when I'm winding it, as compared to when it was working. I can't take it to an AD for a while... any suggestions as to what's broken? As far as I can recall I haven't abused it too much. It seems to work fine as an automatic.


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[padi56]

Originally Posted by Jjcs

Hi all

I've a 2 month old 114060 submariner. I grabbed yesterday after not wearing it for a week and gave it a couple of winds to get it going, and I noticed there was minimal friction. I gave it much more manual winding than it should need - it won't run. There's far less friction when I'm winding it, as compared to when it was working. I can't take it to an AD for a while... any suggestions as to what's broken? As far as I can recall I haven't abused it too much. It seems to work fine as an automatic.


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To fully manual it needs 40 full crown turns clockwise only even after a full wind it might need a slight swirl to start.It could be a winding stem problem if watch is winding while wearing and keeps going its doubtful its the mainspring.

[Jack T]

When my watches have fully run down they usually get going after about 12 to 15 turns of the crown, with about 40 or so turns for a full windup.
As for the lack of friction in turning the crown, would not guess what the issue is.
You make two comments - 'it won't run' and 'it seems to work fine as an automatic' - does the watch run or not?

[Jjcs]

Originally Posted by Jack T

When my watches have fully run down they usually get going after about 12 to 15 turns of the crown, with about 40 or so turns for a full windup.
As for the lack of friction in turning the crown, would not guess what the issue is.
You make two comments - 'it won't run' and 'it seems to work fine as an automatic' - does the watch run or not?

It didn't start last night just through manual winding, so I gave it a shake and it ran OK. It's now stopped and definitely won't start with a manual wind. I've given it well over 40 turns.


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[MonBK]

Sounds like a RSC visit.

[Hotrod297]

Is it pre-owned or 2 months from AD Purchase? Sounds like you have a serious problem.

If it from an AD, just take it back ASAP.

[Jjcs]

Originally Posted by Hotrod297

Is it pre-owned or 2 months from AD Purchase? Sounds like you have a serious problem.



If it from an AD, just take it back ASAP.

BNIB from a private seller with Rolex warranty. Unfortunately I'm in the middle of nowhere and won't be able to take it to the AD until Wednesday week.


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[ejvette]

That's watch can take a lot of worry free abuse sounds like it needs to go in for service for sure.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Jjcs

It didn't start last night just through manual winding, so I gave it a shake and it ran OK. It's now stopped and definitely won't start with a manual wind. I've given it well over 40 turns.


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If watch does not run it's most probably the mainspring then take it back to where it was bought or if you live near a RSC take it there with your warranty card.It could be something simple like the stem screw has come loose thats a simple fix so is changing the mainspring if broken.

[brandrea]

Is the crown in the winding position?

[Jjcs]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Is the crown in the winding position?

It is. It was winding fine before, now it's like the stem is spinning freely, something isn't engaging.


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[Hotrod297]

Originally Posted by Jjcs

BNIB from a private seller with Rolex warranty. Unfortunately I'm in the middle of nowhere and won't be able to take it to the AD until Wednesday week.


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Hang in there my friend! I kind of know what you're going thru. I was in Iraq for 8 months with a busted GMT.

[BLACKHORSE 6]

Sorry you're having trouble with it. Get it fixed through RSC, and don't let this experience ruin your liking to a great watch.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Jjcs

It is. It was winding fine before, now it's like the stem is spinning freely, something isn't engaging.


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Very strange. I guess RSC is the route to take. I hope you get it resolved

[BLACKHORSE 6]

Originally Posted by Hotrod297

Hang in there my friend! I kind of know what you're going thru. I was in Iraq for 8 months with a busted GMT.

What? You mean to tell me that there's no AD in Iraq? Baghdad was such a beautiful city!

[kilyung]

Do you feel a distinct detent when you pull out the crown? Is there ANY resistance at all when you turn the crown to wind it? It could be a number of issues around the keyless works or the mainspring.

[MonBK]

Sounds like the stem just needs to be tightened?

[KingRichard]

sounds like you need to take it in for service. In the mean time just give it the old "seiko shake."

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by MonBK

Sounds like the stem just needs to be tightened?

The stem is a captive part and the only thing it's tightened onto is the crown.

[Jjcs]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Do you feel a distinct detent when you pull out the crown? Is there ANY resistance at all when you turn the crown to wind it? It could be a number of issues around the keyless works or the mainspring.

Nup, no resistance and no sound. And no 'click' when I pull the crown to the winding position.


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