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LuminousMaximus · 15 June 2017, 10:33 PM

I have been working on acquiring a RV/Coach

Itsa 2006 Monaco, Tag Axle, 525HP Cummins ISX, Allison 4000 Trans, 40'

Anyone else here have one?

LuminousMaximus · 15 June 2017, 10:39 PM

files attachment requires me to scale down...

lol, I'm not driving... The Sub is on a Train Traveling to Sacramento...

Pix · 15 June 2017, 10:55 PM

Nice Coach, we traveled in a 30' C class with my boys to MX races around the country.
Owner of the Prevost next to us said they all RV's come with the same problem...When the Shitter is full you can never find a place to empty it! Great memories travelling around the back roads.

superdog · 15 June 2017, 11:02 PM

I don't have one, but I want one.

I think that ultimately my dream would be to retire in one of those, travel the country just see the sights. My wife has other thoughts about the subject.

But I'm a huge fan and the one you presented looks pretty amazing.

MonBK · 15 June 2017, 11:08 PM

Woohooo Sam, that's what I'm working on as well.

NothingToSeeHere · 15 June 2017, 11:31 PM

First off, nice coach!

My old man has had them my entire life. I'm 34 now, he still won't let me drive them.

He's had:
King's Highway
Fleetwood - Southwind 37'
Gulfstream 27' Cab Over
Holiday Rambler - Endeavor Diesel Pusher (I believe 39')
American Coach - American Tradition 40'
American Coach - American Eagle 43'
Newmar - Essex 45'
Newmar - Mountain Aire 43' (Current)
I thought he had a 2018 Foretravel IH45 on order, but he's since told me he's holding off.

Rules of thumb for RVs, especially high end diesel pushers - 30% off MSRP is the standard. Do NOT accept anything less. Even more off is possible if it's a leftover.

They depreciate like rocks. So when you see a 2015 Motorhome that retailed for $550,000 and it's for sale for $275k, that is a horrible deal. That motorhome can probably be had for $190k or less. I've noticed lately dealers have been marking up used prices to try and drive them up, don't be suckered.

Not trying to sound like a know it all, but I've learned a lot of new motorhomers don't know these things I don't want anyone to get ripped off.

They are extremely expensive to own, especially if you use them and maintain them properly (and you don't turn your own wrenches). You can skimp on maintenance to save on cost (such as chemicals for water and sewage tanks) but it will catch up to you.

Good luck and enjoy your rig!!!!

Headshrinker · 15 June 2017, 11:37 PM

Sometimes, I can't believe the interiors in those beauties. It sounds like a great way to see the country.

LuminousMaximus · 16 June 2017, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pix

Nice Coach, we traveled in a 30' C class with my boys to MX races around the country.
Owner of the Prevost next to us said they all RV's come with the same problem...When the Shitter is full you can never find a place to empty it! Great memories travelling around the back roads.

haha boy is that true...I will remember that when someone pulls up to me in a 1.5m Coach...

Quote:

Originally Posted by superdog

I don't have one, but I want one.

I think that ultimately my dream would be to retire in one of those, travel the country just see the sights. My wife has other thoughts about the subject.

But I'm a huge fan and the one you presented looks pretty amazing.

You have to first take her to see the RV shows they have and places like Banff Canada for it's pristine waters a nd spectacular views...

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

Woohooo Sam, that's what I'm working on as well.

Amazing set of circumstances we find each other in...

Quote:

Originally Posted by NothingToSeeHere

First off, nice coach!

My old man has had them my entire life. I'm 34 now, he still won't let me drive them.

He's had:
King's Highway
Fleetwood - Southwind 37'
Gulfstream 27' Cab Over
Holiday Rambler - Endeavor Diesel Pusher (I believe 39')
American Coach - American Tradition 40'
American Coach - American Eagle 43'
Newmar - Essex 45'
Newmar - Mountain Aire 43' (Current)
I thought he had a 2018 Foretravel IH45 on order, but he's since told me he's holding off.

Rules of thumb for RVs, especially high end diesel pushers - 30% off MSRP is the standard. Do NOT accept anything less. Even more off is possible if it's a leftover.

They depreciate like rocks. So when you see a 2015 Motorhome that retailed for $550,000 and it's for sale for $275k, that is a horrible deal. That motorhome can probably be had for $190k or less. I've noticed lately dealers have been marking up used prices to try and drive them up, don't be suckered.

Not trying to sound like a know it all, but I've learned a lot of new motorhomers don't know these things I don't want anyone to get ripped off.

They are extremely expensive to own, especially if you use them and maintain them properly (and you don't turn your own wrenches). You can skimp on maintenance to save on cost (such as chemicals for water and sewage tanks) but it will catch up to you.

Good luck and enjoy your rig!!!!

Thnaks for that information! This is a special unit and we are buyng from Owner not dealer. You are though, 100% correct and so many people get taken by the interior of the coach and all common sense goes out the window.

Every aspec of what you say above should be in a sticky for people to read and understand. There is a Ton of room for negotiations. Always.

We are getting ours for a song!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headshrinker

Sometimes, I can't believe the interiors in those beauties. It sounds like a great way to see the country.

Especially with the one piece full view of the Panavision dual pane windshield.

You will have the opportunity one day as well...

wrist_watcher · 16 June 2017, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuminousMaximus

haha boy is that true...I will remember that when someone pulls up to me in a 1.5m Coach...

You have to first take her to see the RV shows they have and places like Banff Canada for it's pristine waters a nd spectacular views...

Amazing set of circumstances we find each other in...

Thnaks for that information! This is a special unit and we are buyng from Owner not dealer. You are though, 100% correct and so many people get taken by the interior of the coach and all common sense goes out the window.

Every aspec of what you say above should be in a sticky for people to read and understand. There is a Ton of room for negotiations. Always.

We are getting ours for a song!

Especially with the one piece full view of the Panavision dual pane windshield.

You will have the opportunity one day as well...

Will you come visit me on the east coast? You seem like a character!

carwash66 · 16 June 2017, 02:59 PM

Started out with our first Motorcoach when we were in our twenties. Now at 60 years old, still loving it. Our latest bus is our favorite.

carwash66 · 16 June 2017, 03:05 PM

Couple more.

NothingToSeeHere · 17 June 2017, 12:19 AM

^ Excellent coach and love the lot!

My old man has built out lots for sale in Petoskey, Michigan and Lake Toxaway, North Carolina if anyone is interested. Water features, fire pits, bungalos.

carwash66 · 17 June 2017, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NothingToSeeHere

^ Excellent coach and love the lot!

My old man has built out lots for sale in Petoskey, Michigan and Lake Toxaway, North Carolina if anyone is interested. Water features, fire pits, bungalos.

Thanks.
Hearthside Grove in Petoskey is very nice. Been a few times. Mountain Falls by Lake Toxaway is very nice also, and close to home for us.

Luminous has a lot of great RV Resorts out west also. Too many to name.
Polson Motorcoach Resort in Montana is fantastic, overlooking Flathead Lake and close to Glacier National Park. Las Vegas Mototcoach Resort is one of our favorites.

Enjoy your new coach. If your headed to the southeastern part of the country, pm me. We have full hook ups for you on our farm.

Have fun.

joli160 · 17 June 2017, 01:26 AM

That's beautiful Sam, I could easily live in it, cruising around

Rockrolex · 17 June 2017, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carwash66

Couple more.

How about some interior shots of that good looking rig.

Chewbacca · 17 June 2017, 01:39 AM

very nice.

LuminousMaximus · 26 June 2017, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carwash66

Started out with our first Motorcoach when we were in our twenties. Now at 60 years old, still loving it. Our latest bus is our favorite.

That looks like a Nice Prevost! We contemplated geting a Prevost, 2013 model, but we were short like $360,000.00

Maybe in a couple of years...

Hey, could you show us some interior shots? It is Beautiful form the inside...

Quote:

Originally Posted by carwash66

Thanks.
Hearthside Grove in Petoskey is very nice. Been a few times. Mountain Falls by Lake Toxaway is very nice also, and close to home for us.

Luminous has a lot of great RV Resorts out west also. Too many to name.
Polson Motorcoach Resort in Montana is fantastic, overlooking Flathead Lake and close to Glacier National Park. Las Vegas Mototcoach Resort is one of our favorites.

Enjoy your new coach. If your headed to the southeastern part of the country, pm me. We have full hook ups for you on our farm.

Have fun.

thank you for the offer, that is very gracious. That is a nice thing to have full hookup on a nice cement pad. Hopefully soon we can have that same thing done... As soon as my wife retires, we will be heading out on longer time and further trips.

Keep her in between the lines!

SAm & Cheryle

ejvette · 27 June 2017, 12:55 AM

wow Sam thats Rock Star transportation! Huge congrats

NothingToSeeHere · 27 June 2017, 02:07 AM

Yup Heath side grove is where it's at! My wife and I fly up with our 3 year old son every October. Harbor springs, traverse, mackinac, Boyne, leggs inn, etc. what a place! My father hasn't used the lot in a couple of years so we miss out on that aspect.

MI can't remember the name of his place in toxaway. I've only been there once.

Quote:

Originally Posted by carwash66

Thanks.
Hearthside Grove in Petoskey is very nice. Been a few times. Mountain Falls by Lake Toxaway is very nice also, and close to home for us.

Luminous has a lot of great RV Resorts out west also. Too many to name.
Polson Motorcoach Resort in Montana is fantastic, overlooking Flathead Lake and close to Glacier National Park. Las Vegas Mototcoach Resort is one of our favorites.

Enjoy your new coach. If your headed to the southeastern part of the country, pm me. We have full hook ups for you on our farm.

Have fun.

carwash66 · 30 June 2017, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

How about some interior shots of that good looking rig.

We are prepping for another trip, so some things are out of place. The Mrs. said no pics of bedroom and walk-in closets during the loading process.

LuminousMaximus · 10 July 2017, 04:55 AM

Beautiful! We have never driven a Prevost but we hear they drive like a dream. So smooth so robust.

The salesman said you can have a glass of water on the table and it won't spill while driving

I am really impressed with the attention to detail...

I do see an Elegant lady or similar in our future.

I think Marathon makes a good coach...

Which after-bus companies do you think do a good job?

ChuckFinlay · 10 July 2017, 06:42 AM

Out of interest do you require a special type of license to drive one of those?

LuminousMaximus · 10 July 2017, 07:25 AM

In California if it's bigger than 40', one must get a Non-Comercial class. License and go thru a rigorous testing procedure. Fortunately for me, my Rig was 40'8" and the guy said, "It's within the range..."

So my class C will be sufficient. In other states they may have different vehicle codes

ChuckFinlay · 10 July 2017, 07:26 AM

Beautiful piece of kit...love one here, but it's bigger than most of our roads :)

carwash66 · 10 July 2017, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckFinlay

Out of interest do you require a special type of license to drive one of those?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuminousMaximus

In California if it's bigger than 40', one must get a Non-Comercial class. License and go thru a rigorous testing procedure. Fortunately for me, my Rig was 40'8" and the guy said, "It's within the range..."

So my class C will be sufficient. In other states they may have different vehicle codes

In our state, there are no special license required for any length RV. All the different states regs read like the IRS tax codes. Generally speaking, you are only required to abide by the state laws where the unit is registered and you are licensed.

Our bus is 45' long and we tow a Suburban 2500 behind it. Adding in the length of the tow bar, we are approximately 68' long traveling down the road.
Considering the bus alone is 60,000 lbs., need to stay focused in high traffic areas.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckFinlay

Beautiful piece of kit...love one here, but it's bigger than most of our roads :)

Some of the best places here have small roads also, that's why we always tow our Suburban.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuminousMaximus

Beautiful! We have never driven a Prevost but we hear they drive like a dream. So smooth so robust.

The salesman said you can have a glass of water on the table and it won't spill while driving

I am really impressed with the attention to detail...

I do see an Elegant lady or similar in our future.

I think Marathon makes a good coach...

Which after-bus companies do you think do a good job?

We love our Marathon. However, Liberty and Millennium also do beautiful Prevost conversions.

Caution- These things have crazy prices. MSRP on any new bus from the big three start above 2 million dollars!

Top three in the industry:

Marathon Coach
http://www.marathoncoach.com/

Liberty Coach
http://libertycoach.com/

Millennium Coach
http://millenniumluxurycoaches.com/

benvh · 10 July 2017, 08:31 AM

I worked on a RV lot during high school, I think it soured me on ever owning one

Ben

Al1969 · 10 July 2017, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benvh

I worked on a RV lot during high school, I think it soured me on ever owning one

Ben

Out of curiosity. If you don't mind me asking, why is that?

benvh · 10 July 2017, 08:54 AM

Haha, nothing bad - just long days baking on the asphalt washing them. Cleaning up trade-ins could be an eye-opening experience also.

My dad is actually still in RV sales, I grew up around them.

Ben

Al1969 · 10 July 2017, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benvh

Haha, nothing bad - just long days baking on the asphalt washing them. Cleaning up trade-ins could be an eye-opening experience also.

My dad is actually still in RV sales, I grew up around them.

Ben

Got it. Thank you

MonBK · 10 July 2017, 05:26 PM

Rexhall makes pretty nice ones.

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LuminousMaximus 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Watch: me hit Huge Lotto Posts: 6,512	Beautiful! We have never driven a Prevost but we hear they drive like a dream. So smooth so robust. The salesman said you can have a glass of water on the table and it won't spill while driving I am really impressed with the attention to detail... I do see an Elegant lady or similar in our future. I think Marathon makes a good coach... Which after-bus companies do you think do a good job? __________________ “Every man Dies... Not Every Man, Really Lives.” – William Wallace - To really lives means to live your life to the fullest. It means to chase your dreams, take risks, and to love life. Since everyone’s fate is the same, why not live the best life that you possibly can? In order to really live,you must seize the day. Live each day as if it's your last and overall just do it! Today is a gift, that’s why it’s called the present...

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LuminousMaximus 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Watch: me hit Huge Lotto Posts: 6,512	In California if it's bigger than 40', one must get a Non-Comercial class. License and go thru a rigorous testing procedure. Fortunately for me, my Rig was 40'8" and the guy said, "It's within the range..." So my class C will be sufficient. In other states they may have different vehicle codes __________________ “Every man Dies... Not Every Man, Really Lives.” – William Wallace - To really lives means to live your life to the fullest. It means to chase your dreams, take risks, and to love life. Since everyone’s fate is the same, why not live the best life that you possibly can? In order to really live,you must seize the day. Live each day as if it's your last and overall just do it! Today is a gift, that’s why it’s called the present...

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Pix "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: midwest Watch: SS Datejust Posts: 1,288	Nice Coach, we traveled in a 30' C class with my boys to MX races around the country. Owner of the Prevost next to us said they all RV's come with the same problem...When the Shitter is full you can never find a place to empty it! Great memories travelling around the back roads.

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MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	Woohooo Sam, that's what I'm working on as well.

15 June 2017, 11:31 PM	#6
NothingToSeeHere "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 159	First off, nice coach! My old man has had them my entire life. I'm 34 now, he still won't let me drive them. He's had: King's Highway Fleetwood - Southwind 37' Gulfstream 27' Cab Over Holiday Rambler - Endeavor Diesel Pusher (I believe 39') American Coach - American Tradition 40' American Coach - American Eagle 43' Newmar - Essex 45' Newmar - Mountain Aire 43' (Current) I thought he had a 2018 Foretravel IH45 on order, but he's since told me he's holding off. Rules of thumb for RVs, especially high end diesel pushers - 30% off MSRP is the standard. Do NOT accept anything less. Even more off is possible if it's a leftover. They depreciate like rocks. So when you see a 2015 Motorhome that retailed for $550,000 and it's for sale for $275k, that is a horrible deal. That motorhome can probably be had for $190k or less. I've noticed lately dealers have been marking up used prices to try and drive them up, don't be suckered. Not trying to sound like a know it all, but I've learned a lot of new motorhomers don't know these things I don't want anyone to get ripped off. They are extremely expensive to own, especially if you use them and maintain them properly (and you don't turn your own wrenches). You can skimp on maintenance to save on cost (such as chemicals for water and sewage tanks) but it will catch up to you. Good luck and enjoy your rig!!!!

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Headshrinker "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ Watch: Day-Date Posts: 4,056	Sometimes, I can't believe the interiors in those beauties. It sounds like a great way to see the country.

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NothingToSeeHere "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 159	^ Excellent coach and love the lot! My old man has built out lots for sale in Petoskey, Michigan and Lake Toxaway, North Carolina if anyone is interested. Water features, fire pits, bungalos.

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Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	very nice.

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ChuckFinlay "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK Watch: 116719BLRO Posts: 496	Out of interest do you require a special type of license to drive one of those?

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ChuckFinlay "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK Watch: 116719BLRO Posts: 496	Beautiful piece of kit...love one here, but it's bigger than most of our roads :)

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benvh "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Boston Posts: 438	I worked on a RV lot during high school, I think it soured me on ever owning one Ben

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benvh "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Boston Posts: 438	Haha, nothing bad - just long days baking on the asphalt washing them. Cleaning up trade-ins could be an eye-opening experience also. My dad is actually still in RV sales, I grew up around them. Ben

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MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	Rexhall makes pretty nice ones.

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