Invest grade non Rolex watches under 25k??

[ACWATCHES]

Apologies firstly as this has probably been covered in some post or another before over the years..

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by ACWATCHES

Invest grade non Rolex watches under 25k??

Apologies firstly as this has probably been covered in some post or another before over the years..

None

Watches are not investments. Certainly not any mass produced watches.

Try Sotheby's or Antiquroum for investmane grade watches.

[wulfman]

Hulk, SD43, SD4k, D-Blue, SS Daytona...

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by wulfman

Hulk, SD43, D-Blue, SS Daytona...

What do these have to do with non Rolex watches?

[gwalker]

You probably won't lose but you aren't getting much return either. If u want an investment I'd head to Wall Street. If u want an investment watch that will see a nice return get ready to shell out some big bucks but that's still a crap shoot. Who knows what the millennials will want in 40 years. Probably some computer that controls every single aspect of life.


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[wulfman]

Originally Posted by MonBK

What do these have to do with non Rolex watches?

Ouch, havenˋt Seen that non...

[ACWATCHES]

More like best value retention models that may keep up with inflation. Don't expect them to keep with mutual funds or traditional investments. I'm thinking other than Rolex, as I have my share of the sports steel models already. At the same time, I'm nervous of venturing outside Rolex sports due to value retention


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[meganfox17]

Originally Posted by ACWATCHES

Apologies firstly as this has probably been covered in some post or another before over the years..

No need for any apologies Sir.I will answer your question with another question and you won't need USD 25 K but one fifth of that sum if you're fortunate enough to find one and act fast

* What do Maximilian Busser, Tim Gronefeld and Don Johnson have in common ?Most folks dont have the slightest idea what I'm talking about but that's the non Rolex watch you should invest in....

[Lordofrolex]

Going to be hard to find an invest grade watch in general. Pretty much just pick any watch you like put it in a safe for 50 years and hopefully it goes up.

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by meganfox17

No need for any apologies Sir.I will answer your question with another question and you won't need USD 25 K but one fifth of that sum if you're fortunate enough to find one and act fast

* What do Maximilian Busser, Tim Gronefeld and Don Johnson have in common ?Most folks dont have the slightest idea what I'm talking about but that's the non Rolex watch you should invest in....

I don't have the answer, but I'm pretty sure this ain't it. ^^^

[Fleetlord]

Don't put money into watches unless you like them.

This is doomed hobby in terms of investment potential as millenials aren't going to put money into watches since they don't care about them...just like stamp collecting is almost dead.

The future millenial money (if they have any LOL!) will not be going towards watches and the values will drop and drop...

Just look at the secondary market now...just a minor decrease in buying in Asia due to a shift in people spending money on experiences instead of luxury goods has put the market for most luxury brands in an absolute tailspin...

Rolex, Patek and a very very select few other references are holding on...who knows how long that will last...

[JP Chestnut]

Wrong section of the forum. The only answer for you is possibly a Tudor if you define "non-rolex" narrowly.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

Don't put money into watches unless you like them.

This is doomed hobby in terms of investment potential as millenials aren't going to put money into watches since they don't care about them...just like stamp collecting is almost dead.

The future millenial money (if they have any LOL!) will not be going towards watches and the values will drop and drop...

Just look at the secondary market now...just a minor decrease in buying in Asia due to a shift in people spending money on experiences instead of luxury goods has put the market for most luxury brands in an absolute tailspin...

Rolex, Patek and a very very select few other references are holding on...who knows how long that will last...

I agree.

[dnpina]

This forum needs a new Subforum called "Watch Investment" and an automated response with every possible way to say NO

[rossi46]

The only possibility is Patek.

Seriously, look at the market right now. There are only two brands that "matter" at auctions and in the vintage market: Rolex and PP.

But, as has been stated, there are serious doubts as to whether the next generation of disposable-income adult earners (post-Gen X) gives a crap about horology. The whole thing could absolutely collapse.

[Danny83]

Swatch

[AK797]

If you can find a Nautilus at an ADs that's your best bet, but then you'll make maybe a few grand on selling it so not really worth the bother if the watch is not to be worn or enjoyed.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

Don't put money into watches unless you like them.

This is doomed hobby in terms of investment potential as millenials aren't going to put money into watches since they don't care about them...just like stamp collecting is almost dead.

The future millenial money (if they have any LOL!) will not be going towards watches and the values will drop and drop...

Just look at the secondary market now...just a minor decrease in buying in Asia due to a shift in people spending money on experiences instead of luxury goods has put the market for most luxury brands in an absolute tailspin...

Rolex, Patek and a very very select few other references are holding on...who knows how long that will last...

I truly wonder about this. Could you imagine in 15 years walking into a Rolex shop and getting 30% off without asking?

[TimeToWatch]

I'm going to do some major speculation here and say FP Journe Chronometre Bleu.

I can see that gaining value perhaps

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by dmash

I truly wonder about this. Could you imagine in 15 years walking into a Rolex shop and getting 30% off without asking?

Yes

Inflation and currency devaluation will make this very likely.

Some mistakenly believe that their "investment" has held value or even risen. They are not taking into account what those same dollars would buy in the present.

[116500LN]

116600. Discontinued. Only produced for 2 years.

You're welcome.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by 116500LN

116600. Discontinued. Only produced for 2 years.

You're welcome.

Thanks, is that a non Rolex?

[dmash]

Originally Posted by beshannon

Yes

Inflation and currency devaluation will make this very likely.

Some mistakenly believe that their "investment" has held value or even risen. They are not taking into account what those same dollars would buy in the present.

10000% agree.

I saw somebody talking about how he paid $2.5k for his no date Sub in the mid 90s, now he could sell it for $5.5k, netting him a massive profit of $3k! Didn't want to bust his bubble by mentioning that is practically the exact same buying power when taking into account inflation. Still not bad to wear a watch for that long for 'free', but people are still disillusioned at how much 'profit' they're really making over an extended period of time.

[jscw]

Originally Posted by rossi46

The only possibility is Patek.

Seriously, look at the market right now. There are only two brands that "matter" at auctions and in the vintage market: Rolex and PP.

But, as has been stated, there are serious doubts as to whether the next generation of disposable-income adult earners (post-Gen X) gives a crap about horology. The whole thing could absolutely collapse.

Totally agree. Only Patek and Rolex might have some investment value in the long run.

[ap1]

Tudor black bay eta

[bdex75]

Originally Posted by dmash

10000% agree.

I saw somebody talking about how he paid $2.5k for his no date Sub in the mid 90s, now he could sell it for $5.5k, netting him a massive profit of $3k! Didn't want to bust his bubble by mentioning that is practically the exact same buying power when taking into account inflation. Still not bad to wear a watch for that long for 'free', but people are still disillusioned at how much 'profit' they're really making over an extended period of time.

Bingo.

But if you must buy all the 5711 blue dial PP's you can at MSRP and sell immediately.


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[AK797]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

Don't put money into watches unless you like them.

This is doomed hobby in terms of investment potential as millenials aren't going to put money into watches since they don't care about them...just like stamp collecting is almost dead.

The future millenial money (if they have any LOL!) will not be going towards watches and the values will drop and drop...

Just look at the secondary market now...just a minor decrease in buying in Asia due to a shift in people spending money on experiences instead of luxury goods has put the market for most luxury brands in an absolute tailspin...

Rolex, Patek and a very very select few other references are holding on...who knows how long that will last...

It is possible that we are now in 1986 stock market wise, esp in the UK where prices and fever are climbing higher, so best to be aware...

[TimeToWatch]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

Don't put money into watches unless you like them.

This is doomed hobby in terms of investment potential as millenials aren't going to put money into watches since they don't care about them...just like stamp collecting is almost dead.

The future millenial money (if they have any LOL!) will not be going towards watches and the values will drop and drop...

Just look at the secondary market now...just a minor decrease in buying in Asia due to a shift in people spending money on experiences instead of luxury goods has put the market for most luxury brands in an absolute tailspin...

Rolex, Patek and a very very select few other references are holding on...who knows how long that will last...

Please don't speak on the behalf of my generation. I'm a millennial am extremely passionate about watches. Many of my friends are as well, and have similarly begun collecting.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by aschneid

Please don't speak on the behalf of my generation. I'm a millennial am extremely passionate about watches. Many of my friends are as well, and have similarly begun collecting.

Very happy to hear that

About a watch for profit under 25k, and non Rolex see only one, Patek 5711, you buy, sell for a 3-5k profit, don't see any other than this really.

[ddaly12]

If everyone knew what would be more valuable in the future, we would all buy it now, which would push up the price, which would make future appreciation less likely. It's perverse, but the only way to make a good investment is to buy the thing that is today undervalued and unappreciated before the masses catch on and push up the price.

So your question should be: what is the watch today that no one wants or values, that is cheap and a bad investment, that you can buy for below intrinsic value. I don't have the answer. No one does.