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Old 9 August 2017, 05:16 PM   #1
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scammers in Italy florence JFK no limit watches

Hi there to all , im a dealer in Dublin Ireland , i paid for Rolex from this company that were selling on chrono24 , JFK no limit they were in florence Italy and had up to to 25 Rolex on chrono24 , they also had a facebook and instagram page , when i paid for the watch it never arrived , contacted chrono 24 and there seemed to be a lot of people that were scammed , now all the deatils are gone but i have the names of the sellers .Alessandro Camelli +39 3926656556 ,Simone Celli +39 3926659009, i do have a lot of info on these guys and have reported to police and banks . any info needed please ask ...
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Old 9 August 2017, 07:36 PM   #2
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Sorry to hear this. I hope you paid by credit card.
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Old 10 August 2017, 02:50 AM   #3
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Sem chit for mi 4000 euro for a fake submariner simon celli
I call police florence i take my mail y say everyting for polizia.Sorry for my english.im french
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Old 10 August 2017, 05:03 AM   #4
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Man that sucks, bought a few watches from italian dealers, but when I got the 5726A I told the guy I would pay 300 euros more if he brings it to Paris, which he did, sorry for you that sucks
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Old 10 August 2017, 07:29 AM   #5
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Sorry to hear that, that's why I stay away from chrono24. Odd that they were still allowed to advertise there after several scam reports.
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Old 10 August 2017, 05:03 PM   #6
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scam by delaer in italy Florence JFK no limit

Hi there sorry to hear your bad news also , i ve sent all there detail to a company debt collector in italy , im sure these guy are in florence , also Alessandro Camelli also ,did you find anymore infomation on this company JFK all details from facebook and Instagram also gone .(Did you report to local police or did you go to italy ??) you can message me directly at ichrono/facebook
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Old 10 August 2017, 05:04 PM   #7
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JFK scam

Hi there chrono24 did shut them down , but not before they scammed a lot of people
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Old 10 August 2017, 05:06 PM   #8
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anymore details on these guys please let me know ichrono/facebook
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Old 10 August 2017, 05:07 PM   #9
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JFK scam

did pay with visa/debit so i just with the bank to see about charge back
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Old 10 August 2017, 07:35 PM   #10
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Give me your facebook name please i have information.
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Old 10 August 2017, 10:10 PM   #11
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Hi,

great to see a post on a forum about this, i've also be scammed by JfkWatches and ask chrono24 to give me the contact of others buyers in order to launch a action together.

I'm from france and bought a speedmaster pro from JFK Watches.

I need all the ifnos you can gave me because as jfk is a registered company in italy, French Police can't engage any actions... I have to contact the european center of consumer to make a claim.

I ask my bank to make a claim to Poste italiane (jfk bank) to get a refund by Poste italiane seems to not be very reactive about it.

Hope to get in touch with you soon

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Old 10 August 2017, 10:11 PM   #12
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Petr,

Also, if you got any informations you can send it to me at [email protected] please ?

Thank you
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Old 10 August 2017, 10:39 PM   #13
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Old 10 August 2017, 11:38 PM   #14
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Jfk No Limits Watches
Titulare: Simone Celli
Denominazione Jfk No Limits Watches Di Simone Celli
Codice Fiscale CLL SMN 91L12G713C
Partita IVA 01913070478
Forma Giuridica IMPRESA INDIVIDUALE - Individuali o assimilabili o non iscritti al RI
Attività 47.91.1 - Commercio al dettaglio di qualsiasi tipo di prodotto effettuato via internet
Indirizzo VIA PORDOI, 6, 51100, Pistoia, Pistoia Come arrivare
Città Pistoia
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Old 10 August 2017, 11:42 PM   #15
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A got this info from Chrono24:

Jfk has paid some bills due to Chrono24 on the last week end (05/08-06/08) before disappear since end of monday 07/08.

Quite strange for a scammer no ?

When i've you heard of them for the last time ?
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Old 11 August 2017, 04:16 AM   #16
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jfk scammeers

Hi there also seems to be another name on the business Alessandro camelli and he is on facebook flashing rolex and patek like a bigshot , im sure he is also involed if not he will know simone celli ..
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Old 11 August 2017, 09:24 AM   #17
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Must ask for a chrono24 more detail regarding them and their bank also italia post spa they will be able to give information or they to draw their information and the number of watch that it has is still enormous.And call the Italian police several complaints may be causing them to move.
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Old 11 August 2017, 05:18 PM   #18
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Hi there also seems to be another name on the business Alessandro camelli and he is on facebook flashing rolex and patek like a bigshot , im sure he is also involed if not he will know simone celli ..
Yes, seen it like you. Pretty sure he's part of the duo;
I'm thinking about a way to have him in friend on Facebook to check if i found a simone... will maybe ask a pretty girl friend of mine, by what i seen on Fb he is the type of guy that will add any pretty girl...
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Old 11 August 2017, 05:25 PM   #19
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Must ask for a chrono24 more detail regarding them and their bank also italia post spa they will be able to give information or they to draw their information and the number of watch that it has is still enormous.And call the Italian police several complaints may be causing them to move.
Petr,

First of all we need to make common action oaginst theses guys. Contacted me on facebook or Chris to get in touch. I'm actually trying to join Chris on a common case with Oddcoll (debt collector company)

Chrono24 don't have more info than us (same name(s), same bank account, company name, etc)

I've contacted their bank but the send me back to the "authorities" (and my bank still don't have any answer about a refund of money blck on their account, since a week !). I will try to report to the Italien Police today.

I've also ask chrono24 to get in touch with others buyers but they don't want to...
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Old 11 August 2017, 07:55 PM   #20
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Hey dear, thanks for starting this thread. Im from germany and I bought a 16610 from jfk. After bank wire I never heard from them and I got no watch. @petr and @privateJ unfortunally I have no facebook account yet could you send this information to my email adress
kondensatoren @ gmail.com

Thank you very much! Cheers Christoph
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Old 12 August 2017, 12:29 AM   #21
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Hi guys
I’m from Chrono24.
 
Just wanted to give you some details about this case. First and foremost we are sorry for the trouble the dealer caused to you. He worked with us without a problem for months before this situation occurred. We are still trying to get in touch with him however as soon as we heard about the issue we blocked his account on Chrono24. We are discussing now what legal options we have, to deal with the situation. In the meantime, we suggest you report him to your local authorities. Should they need any information we are happy to provide them.
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Old 12 August 2017, 12:32 AM   #22
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I can't talk for the mods and admin here, but it's good to have a representative from Chrono24 here. Personally I have only had a good experience, but it only takes one bad transaction to change that.
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Old 12 August 2017, 06:31 AM   #23
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how can we confirm that he is actually from Chrono24
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Old 12 August 2017, 06:42 AM   #24
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how can we confirm that he is actually from Chrono24
his username has Chrono24 in it.
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Old 12 August 2017, 08:12 AM   #25
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I send all the information to the police of florence to Mr. Stephane Russo done in the same several full will make do something.
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Old 12 August 2017, 11:50 AM   #26
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Victim also

I have been scammed by JFK as well. Pressed charges against them in both the Netherlands as well as Italy, but did not receive any reaction on this.

Also the reaction of Chrono24 was very disappointing. Suggested to them to get the people together who had been scammed by JFK, but they were not willing to do this for privacy reasons. The apparently prefer to protect the scammer rather than the customers....

Would welcome any information you have. I can be reached on [email protected].

I would further be in favour to join forces and get eg a lawyer to present us. They have registered adresses so perhaps we can put a claim on their posessions.

Let me know
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Old 12 August 2017, 10:22 PM   #27
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Also the reaction of Chrono24 was very disappointing. Suggested to them to get the people together who had been scammed by JFK, but they were not willing to do this for privacy reasons. The apparently prefer to protect the scammer rather than the customers....
I understand your dissatisfaction however we can't give you the contact information of other users due to privacy reasons. Hope you understand and support this.
Nevertheless, we highly distance ourselves from methods like these and will do everything possible to help you and other victims.
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Old 12 August 2017, 10:40 PM   #28
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I understand your dissatisfaction however we can't give you the contact information of other users due to privacy reasons. Hope you understand and support this.
Nevertheless, we highly distance ourselves from methods like these and will do everything possible to help you and other victims.
Andy, surely Chrono24 could contact the victims and ask if they would like to waive their privacy to be put in touch with other victims?
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Old 13 August 2017, 12:41 AM   #29
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All call stefane russo of florence police.
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