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Old 24 October 2017, 07:23 AM   #1
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Buyer offered to fly me to Italy...

A potential buyer refused to do a wire transfer because he had been burned previously. He offered to fly me to Italy to buy a gold Rolex. While communicating on the phone and whatsapp, he also asked for photos of other watches we carry. I sent him a pic of a Panerai, a Royal Oak chrono, and a Deep Sea. He said that he wanted me to bring those also. Then later he also asked if I could bring some diamonds.

Red flags about getting robbed or a Customs sting started going off in my head. I wanted to get an idea about how people here would handle it.

I ended up suggesting that he buy an airline ticket for someone he knows who could come here to buy the merchandise. He refused to do that. So no deal.

Does anyone have experience with a potential buyer offering to fly them to a foreign country to hand deliver a watch or watches? How did it turn out? Thanks.
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Old 24 October 2017, 09:05 AM   #2
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Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Traveling across the world with thousands upon thousands of merchandise. That’s begging to be robbed blind.


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Old 24 October 2017, 09:13 AM   #3
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Welcome Mark.

What do you know about him? Did he supply you with references?
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Old 24 October 2017, 10:21 AM   #4
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I would never do that. Good call on passing.
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Old 24 October 2017, 10:35 AM   #5
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Buyer offered to fly me to Italy...

Nope. Good call not doing that deal. You wonder about all kinds of crazy stuff like if buyer was in cahoots with customs officials. They would snag you for violating some import rule and "buyer" would buy from them out the back door.


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Old 24 October 2017, 10:42 AM   #6
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he will rob you almost guaranteed
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Old 24 October 2017, 12:43 PM   #7
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he will rob you almost guaranteed
Agree, except for remove the word almost.
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Old 24 October 2017, 01:15 PM   #8
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i get this same offer a few times a year they send you there passport picture etc. Bottom line they are a gang and will rob you once you get there. This is a big scam ben going on for years.
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Old 24 October 2017, 02:14 PM   #9
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Sounds like a scam the scammer free trip to Italy to me! :D
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Old 24 October 2017, 03:42 PM   #10
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crazy .. you made the right call.

Don't forget the diamonds!
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Old 24 October 2017, 05:37 PM   #11
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For that amount of money, you'd imagine they'd fly to you. If was to do it at all I'd fly in a day earlier than agreed. Deposit goods in main hotel safe (by arrangement)and arrange to meet in busy main lobby in full view of public. I would not produce goods until the person was happy to be photographed and identified. I might even locate a nearby jewellery store that could help for a fee? All in all I wouldn't do it!
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Old 24 October 2017, 05:47 PM   #12
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Of course you should fly to Italy and I'd suggest you take your whole store inventory with you.

Since when does a buyer have to go through all the trouble to come to the seller?
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Old 24 October 2017, 06:11 PM   #13
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Of course you should fly to Italy and I'd suggest you take your whole store inventory with you.

Since when does a buyer have to go through all the trouble to come to the seller?
I work with a gentleman that does fly all over the world, stock in hand. He takes every precaution. Would I do it? No!!
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Old 24 October 2017, 06:14 PM   #14
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I work with a gentleman that does fly all over the world, stock in hand. He takes every precaution. Would I do it? No!!
Great, send him to Italy.
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Old 24 October 2017, 06:38 PM   #15
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Good move passing on that deal


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Old 24 October 2017, 10:46 PM   #16
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Old 24 October 2017, 11:13 PM   #17
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Avoid,it's a scam,few months ago a f2f deal in sellers hotel room had a very bad end.
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Old 24 October 2017, 11:21 PM   #18
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I say take that free flight to Italy and have a mini vacation without him involved hahaha. Sounds like a scam my guy.
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Old 24 October 2017, 11:48 PM   #19
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My guess, if you made it back, you would be less 1 kidney plus everything that was stolen from you....
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Old 24 October 2017, 11:54 PM   #20
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Why not fly to Italy for free and leave the merchandise at home? Get a free vacation. Lol
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Old 25 October 2017, 01:31 AM   #21
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Wtf is happening to the watch world?

International travel?

Diamonds?

Italy?

Call Q and get the Aston ready in Bologna.

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Old 25 October 2017, 01:48 AM   #22
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Just make sure you pack your s**t yourself pants because your gonna s**t your pants when it hits the fan.
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Old 25 October 2017, 01:50 AM   #23
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Why not fly to Italy for free and leave the merchandise at home? Get a free vacation. Lol
LoL Good point, but I think they would be waiting and probably wouldn't be very happy if they paid for a ticket and couldn't rob me.
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Old 25 October 2017, 01:56 AM   #24
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I told the buyer no yesterday and he began sending numerous photos of his id and passport to prove he was legit. He must have called 20 times and sent 50 whatsapp messages while I was helping a client. I think he thought he had a live one. Our diamond company MID has offices around the world and I told him we could also meet at any one of those offices, but he declined.

One can only conclude it was an attempt at robbery and possibly kidnapping. My Russian wife, Nataliya, went crazy when I first mentioned it to her. She went ballistic that I even considered it for a moment.

Sorry to hear about the friend to friend deal in a hotel room that went very badly.

Fortunately, we are located in a bank building and have a serious security system, so I think our chances of getting robbed at our location are even lower than a retailer in a mall.

Thank you for all of the thoughts and advice.
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Old 25 October 2017, 02:51 AM   #25
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Can he visit you on your terms ?
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Old 25 October 2017, 03:00 AM   #26
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You need to stay away, smells like a scam
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Old 25 October 2017, 03:46 AM   #27
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Wtf is happening to the watch world?

International travel?

Diamonds?

Italy?

Call Q and get the Aston ready in Bologna.

Just got off the phone with hq, only the Jaguar and Maserati are available today.
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Old 25 October 2017, 05:20 AM   #28
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Just got off the phone with hq, only the Jaguar and Maserati are available today.
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Old 25 October 2017, 05:42 AM   #29
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Scumbags...it is a pitty some people fall for this scam...
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Old 25 October 2017, 05:59 AM   #30
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Avoid,it's a scam,few months ago a f2f deal in sellers hotel room had a very bad end.
what happened?
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