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Phrank · 22 January 2018, 10:46 AM

If you have even a couple of watches you rotate through, setting the date really does get to be a pain.

I have two with dates and two without, and one quartz I don't have to worry about except in months without 31 days LOL...so I much prefer the no date with a clean face...YMMV and my opinion only...:-)

Ultimately, get the one you like the most...

Southtown57 · 22 January 2018, 10:50 AM

I have the 114060 and greatly prefer it. It's not that I don't like having the date function. It's that I don't like the cyclops.

abozz · 22 January 2018, 11:02 AM

I do not like a watch without the function of the date. I really consult it daily, it is very useful for me. The 116610LN is the perfect watch for me and gather many things that identify the brand:
Rolex = Submariner
Rolex = First wristwatch with day function
Rolex = Cyclop!! (Iconic feature from Rolex)

RolexPD · 22 January 2018, 11:15 AM

It’s really a matter of personal preference. I don’t like having a date on my watch, and I don’t feel like I want or need one. So, i would always choose the ND Sub. This does not mean, however, that I think people who want or need a date on their watches are wrong. That’s probably why Rolex makes both watches.

Shamorai · 22 January 2018, 11:18 AM

For looks alone, probably the no date.
However, the date function is very useful for me on a daily basis so I voted for that.
It’s also pretty cool seeing the second hand go past the cyclops when checking the date!

Mrcoach32 · 22 January 2018, 11:25 AM

Date, IMO. I’ve had two without (Tudor Black Bay Bronze & a Speedy) and I hated having to check my phone for the date.

vmac09 · 22 January 2018, 11:49 AM

114060 is the one watch you only need

dr35mm · 22 January 2018, 11:53 AM

Here’s how I see it (it’s no perfect system), No date for starting/building or part of a collection, Date for a one and only.

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16610v · 22 January 2018, 11:55 AM

6-digit with date and 4/5-digit with no date.

DoctorA · 22 January 2018, 11:56 AM

Having the date really adds to it and I prefer to have “bells and whistles” :)

GradyPhilpott · 22 January 2018, 12:02 PM

The Submariner simply does not have a date complication.

If you want that, you'll have to buy a Submariner Date reference.

geebob · 22 January 2018, 01:45 PM

114060 of course...

Gharddog03 · 22 January 2018, 01:49 PM

No date.... but can’t go wrong with either.

Maiden · 22 January 2018, 01:49 PM

My choice...

Ruud Van Driver · 22 January 2018, 03:00 PM

The name’s Bond, Ruud Van Bond. I prefer a date.

JacksonStone · 22 January 2018, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sco

I love / need the date. So 116610 for me...

My thoughts exactly. I understand the appeal of no-date divers (I also have an Omega Seamaster 300), but I find it too frustrating not to be able to know the date from glancing at my wrist. I also really happen to like the look of the date window and cyclops, so the Sub Date is an easy choice for me.

JacksonStone · 22 January 2018, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etschell

james bond, sean, never wore a date. it is that simple.

If I were Bond, I might actually find that a criterion worth considering. Alas...

nikesupremedunk · 22 January 2018, 08:54 PM

I made this exact post before getting my Nd. The polls went very similar as well, favoring the nd 55/45. I ended up getting the nd and after wearing it daily for 6 months I’m considering flipping it for the date. Listen to these guys here, they know what they’re talking about. If you are used to having a watch with a date you will definitely miss it more than you think. I find myself automatically staring at my wrist whenever I need to know the date. Also, I’m starting to love how the cyclops looks, it’s a very distinctive Rolex feature. Many have gone from nd to date and I might be next.

1William · 22 January 2018, 09:41 PM

I prefer the ND for the clean, balanced dial and you do not see them everywhere.

VicLeChic · 22 January 2018, 09:48 PM

A date is like a woman in your life. You realize you need one when you don't have one. Or maybe you just don't, after all. :-P. (joking, totally respecting women and living a happy relationship with a nice specimen).

My problem when wearing my no date diver (not a Rolex but it applies) is I tend to get frustrated if I need to know the date and have to take my phone out of my pocket, switch it on, see the date, switch it off, put it back in pocket. Worse in winter as I wear gloves.

Yes, no date looks purer and more symmetrical. so nicer on the eye. Go with no date if you don't it the complication.

(I'm not a fan of fat lugs but off topic).

Toivonen · 22 January 2018, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etschell

james bond, sean, never wore a date. it is that simple.

!!!

rossi46 · 23 January 2018, 01:12 AM

The date complication is nice to have, but I'm a stickler for symmetry.

Go ND.

edd26 · 23 January 2018, 01:36 AM

ND 100%. is just perfect

jeerawat · 23 January 2018, 02:32 AM

I was struggling with this questions when I had to decided between these two, so I chose 116610LN, only because of the date - gives feeling a bit more complication to the movement.

But after I owned it for awhile, I think Date is bothering me when seeing the time, and No Date is a true beauty - symmetrical design is awesome. Try it on, then you will feel it.

SeaDweller50 · 23 January 2018, 04:56 AM

Either, or. They’re both great references. If you don’t need the date function then I’d say 114060 and save some cash too.

Uhtred59 · 23 January 2018, 05:15 AM

I guess if you need to know when to retank every hour the ND is perfect. But for my poor landlubber self, I need to know which 24 hour cycle I am in.

drm20 · 23 January 2018, 05:18 AM

114060 for me. I have both and like that if I haven't worn my 114060 for a while and it stops, I only have to set the time and not time and date. Also, I like the clean/symmetrical look w/o date. Both are nice though so it just depends on what you like more.

JacksonStone · 23 January 2018, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikesupremedunk

The polls went very similar as well, favoring the nd 55/45.

I think the poll reflects the difference between the enthusiast who is likely to spend time posting in a forum about Rolexes, and the general Rolex wearer, more than it reflects the respective merits of the models being voted on. Rolex makes eight variants of the Submariner, and only one of them is offered without a date. That suggests the date feature is in much greater demand in the general market than the non-date version.

dafuture · 23 January 2018, 07:36 AM

I've gone back and forth on this myself. While I originally loved the ND, over time I've found the Date more appealing. I think the cyclops is something you don't see too often on a watch and I kind of like that it's a little different in that way.

I only found this after purchasing and wearing my Tudor Sub with a cyclops in the last month or so.

JCC296 · 23 January 2018, 12:17 PM

General speaking, I would recommend choosing between 16610 and 14060. But to answer OP's poll, 114060 gets my vote.

View Poll Results: Which Submariner 114060 vs 116610
116610 LN	168	43.30%
114060	220	56.70%
Voters: 388. You may not vote on this poll

22 January 2018, 11:25 AM	#36
Mrcoach32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 469	Date, IMO. I’ve had two without (Tudor Black Bay Bronze & a Speedy) and I hated having to check my phone for the date. __________________ Rolex 116610LN, Rolex 116710BLNR, Rolex 116610LV, Rolex 126600, Panerai PAM01320, Omega Planet Ocean 232.90.42.21.03.001, Omega Speedmaster Professional 311.30.42.30.01.005, Omega Seamaster 300M 2531.80.00, Tudor Pelagos LHD 25610TNL, Seiko SBDC007, Casio G-Shock GSTS130BC-1A

22 January 2018, 11:53 AM	#38
dr35mm "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Real Name: Peter Location: Caribbean Watch: BB58 Posts: 2,398	Here’s how I see it (it’s no perfect system), No date for starting/building or part of a collection, Date for a one and only. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Present: BB58 \| BB36 \| GMW-B5000D-1JF \| 6900-PT80 Past: 16610LN \| 16622 \| 116610LN \| 214270

22 January 2018, 11:55 AM	#39
16610v "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: YL Watch: Submariner Posts: 701	6-digit with date and 4/5-digit with no date. __________________ Instagram: litwing23

22 January 2018, 11:56 AM	#40
DoctorA "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 6,545	Having the date really adds to it and I prefer to have “bells and whistles” :) __________________ Wear the watch you like, not the one they tell you to wear!

22 January 2018, 10:46 AM	#31
Phrank 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Toronto Watch: ♕ Posts: 2,125	If you have even a couple of watches you rotate through, setting the date really does get to be a pain. I have two with dates and two without, and one quartz I don't have to worry about except in months without 31 days LOL...so I much prefer the no date with a clean face...YMMV and my opinion only...:-) Ultimately, get the one you like the most...

22 January 2018, 10:50 AM	#32
Southtown57 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: USA Posts: 2	I have the 114060 and greatly prefer it. It's not that I don't like having the date function. It's that I don't like the cyclops.

22 January 2018, 11:02 AM	#33
abozz "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In my home. Watch: 116660, 126600 Posts: 2,905	I do not like a watch without the function of the date. I really consult it daily, it is very useful for me. The 116610LN is the perfect watch for me and gather many things that identify the brand: Rolex = Submariner Rolex = First wristwatch with day function Rolex = Cyclop!! (Iconic feature from Rolex)

22 January 2018, 11:15 AM	#34
RolexPD "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Hawaii Posts: 257	It’s really a matter of personal preference. I don’t like having a date on my watch, and I don’t feel like I want or need one. So, i would always choose the ND Sub. This does not mean, however, that I think people who want or need a date on their watches are wrong. That’s probably why Rolex makes both watches.

22 January 2018, 11:18 AM	#35
Shamorai "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Sydney Watch: 16523, 116610LV Posts: 762	For looks alone, probably the no date. However, the date function is very useful for me on a daily basis so I voted for that. It’s also pretty cool seeing the second hand go past the cyclops when checking the date!

22 January 2018, 11:49 AM	#37
vmac09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: US Posts: 40	114060 is the one watch you only need

22 January 2018, 12:02 PM	#41
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK047 Posts: 34,460	The Submariner simply does not have a date complication. If you want that, you'll have to buy a Submariner Date reference. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

22 January 2018, 01:45 PM	#42
geebob "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Here Watch: SpeedyPro Explorer Posts: 235	114060 of course...

22 January 2018, 01:49 PM	#43
Gharddog03 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Genaro Location: Fresno Ca. Watch: R O L E X Posts: 4,466	No date.... but can’t go wrong with either.

22 January 2018, 01:49 PM	#44
Maiden "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 3,652	My choice... Attached Images __________________ Rolex 116613LN Rolex 16610LN Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 41mm Omega Geneve Tag Heuer Aquaracer WAY2112 Orient Ray 2

22 January 2018, 03:00 PM	#45
Ruud Van Driver "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chopped Liver Location: S. Wales Valleys Watch: Mickey Mouse Posts: 9,926	The name’s Bond, Ruud Van Bond. I prefer a date. Attached Images __________________ 116520 Black, 116610 LVc, 116660 D-Blue, 116610 LNc, 116622 Blue, PAM359, PAM689, PAM737 *"Why should you allow an AD to shake you down, just so you can buy a watch" - Grady Philpott* Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

22 January 2018, 08:54 PM	#48
nikesupremedunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Andrew Location: NYC Posts: 1,227	I made this exact post before getting my Nd. The polls went very similar as well, favoring the nd 55/45. I ended up getting the nd and after wearing it daily for 6 months I’m considering flipping it for the date. Listen to these guys here, they know what they’re talking about. If you are used to having a watch with a date you will definitely miss it more than you think. I find myself automatically staring at my wrist whenever I need to know the date. Also, I’m starting to love how the cyclops looks, it’s a very distinctive Rolex feature. Many have gone from nd to date and I might be next. __________________ \| 116234 DJ36 \| 116610LN SubC \| 116520 Daytona \| BlackBay 58 Blue \|

22 January 2018, 09:41 PM	#49
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,787	I prefer the ND for the clean, balanced dial and you do not see them everywhere.

22 January 2018, 09:48 PM	#50
VicLeChic Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Victor Location: Spain Watch: YM 116622 - SD43 Posts: 2,598	A date is like a woman in your life. You realize you need one when you don't have one. Or maybe you just don't, after all. :-P. (joking, totally respecting women and living a happy relationship with a nice specimen). My problem when wearing my no date diver (not a Rolex but it applies) is I tend to get frustrated if I need to know the date and have to take my phone out of my pocket, switch it on, see the date, switch it off, put it back in pocket. Worse in winter as I wear gloves. Yes, no date looks purer and more symmetrical. so nicer on the eye. Go with no date if you don't it the complication. (I'm not a fan of fat lugs but off topic).

23 January 2018, 01:12 AM	#52
rossi46 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Dan Location: CT, by a lake Watch: 16570 Posts: 1,544	The date complication is nice to have, but I'm a stickler for symmetry. Go ND. __________________ A watch is about the entire package, not just its appearance. Any large watch company not making its own movement is not making a watch at all; they’re just playing dress-up. --The Watch Snob

23 January 2018, 01:36 AM	#53
edd26 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: Eduard Location: Romania Watch: 16570, 16600 Posts: 111	ND 100%. is just perfect

23 January 2018, 02:32 AM	#54
jeerawat "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Thailand Watch: 116610LN Posts: 18	I was struggling with this questions when I had to decided between these two, so I chose 116610LN, only because of the date - gives feeling a bit more complication to the movement. But after I owned it for awhile, I think Date is bothering me when seeing the time, and No Date is a true beauty - symmetrical design is awesome. Try it on, then you will feel it.

23 January 2018, 04:56 AM	#55
SeaDweller50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Sandy Location: England. Watch: 14060M 2 liner Posts: 3,204	Either, or. They’re both great references. If you don’t need the date function then I’d say 114060 and save some cash too.

23 January 2018, 05:15 AM	#56
Uhtred59 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Real Name: Ken Location: Europa Watch: 216570 Posts: 693	I guess if you need to know when to retank every hour the ND is perfect. But for my poor landlubber self, I need to know which 24 hour cycle I am in. __________________ "My center is yielding, my right is retreating. Excellent situation, I am attacking" Ferdinand Foch

23 January 2018, 05:18 AM	#57
drm20 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Dave Location: Scottsdale, AZ Watch: Just one more Posts: 1,062	114060 for me. I have both and like that if I haven't worn my 114060 for a while and it stops, I only have to set the time and not time and date. Also, I like the clean/symmetrical look w/o date. Both are nice though so it just depends on what you like more.

23 January 2018, 07:36 AM	#59
dafuture "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: NYC Posts: 1,944	I've gone back and forth on this myself. While I originally loved the ND, over time I've found the Date more appealing. I think the cyclops is something you don't see too often on a watch and I kind of like that it's a little different in that way. I only found this after purchasing and wearing my Tudor Sub with a cyclops in the last month or so. __________________ Current Rolex Submariner 126610LN \|\| Cartier Tank Americaine

23 January 2018, 12:17 PM	#60
JCC296 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: California Posts: 883	General speaking, I would recommend choosing between 16610 and 14060. But to answer OP's poll, 114060 gets my vote.

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