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KateB · 22 January 2018, 03:46 PM

Hello TRF!

I am new to the forum but have been lurking for a very long time on TRF to build up my knowledge on watches.
I am in my mid 20s and have finally saved up enough money, after meeting all my priorities, for a 16713 Root Beer. I will get the watch in the next few days and will be posting more pictures. I plan to give this to my father for his up coming birthday. He has been wanting a X serial (my birth year) Root Beer all his life but every time he had his chance to get the watch, he chose to spend the money on us. He is still holding on the 16713 Root Beer paper cut out I made for him when I was a kid so I know how much he wants that watch.
In a few days I will finally get the watch. I am planning to get it to a watch maker who has a Rolex account to look at the watch. In the meantime, I am pleading the wise men of TRF for help and give me your opinions. The resolution of the pictures are not great and sometimes overblown, but please do your best to tell me if there are any red flags you see.
Also I am hoping to get your opinion if the watch has been over polished and do you think I should get it polished and get a new bezel insert?

Thank you so much for your help! I promise you I will repay TRF with a lot of interesting stories!

Kate

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KateB · 22 January 2018, 03:58 PM

Not sure how to post more pictures...

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michaelodonnell123 · 22 January 2018, 04:09 PM

Before you polish it and get a bezel insert, verify that it is 100% genuine Rolex. There are a lot of fake and FrankenRolex's on the market and you don't want to get stuck with one. Have two independent sources open the watch and verify everything. Some folks will chime in and say "don't buy the watch, buy the seller". That does not fly by me as "Trusted Sellers' can't always be trusted because they too get stuck with lemons and can unintentionally sell them. The used Rolex market is very precarious so proceed with caution.

KateB · 22 January 2018, 04:31 PM

Yes, I am lucky enough that my mentor (a very interesting lady who rocks in a 1675 Pepsi) knows a watchmaker here in Boston. Otherwise I may need to send it to RSC and will be way over the return period.

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KateB · 23 January 2018, 01:16 PM

Just got the shipment confirmation from the seller. Gosh, this is truly nail biting...
Your opinion or evaluation of this watch will be most appreciated!

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fskywalker · 2 May 2018, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KateB

Just got the shipment confirmation from the seller. Gosh, this is truly nail biting...
Your opinion or evaluation of this watch will be most appreciated!

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Wrist shot?

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037 · 2 May 2018, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KateB

Just got the shipment confirmation from the seller. Gosh, this is truly nail biting...
Your opinion or evaluation of this watch will be most appreciated!

It looks correct for an X serial so far. Bezel insert, dial and date wheel don't throw any red flags. The inside is an unknown.

What's the clasp code?

jets · 2 May 2018, 11:38 PM

You're a great kid doing that for your Dad. While I am no expert I have to say that the am concerned about the date wheel. The 6 in '26' looks a bit too clean with minimal serif to the font. It could be the angle the photos were taken at but I looked at some older 26's and the 6 bugs me a bit. As far as the insert goes getting a better genuine condition insert is okay just keep the original one as in the future things like this can increase the monetary value. The bracelet looks a bit rounded on the edges but a good watch maker can probably improve the look of it.

siempreko · 3 May 2018, 01:41 AM

It looks beautifully aged! What a phenomenal gift to give your dad!

Get it checked out and give it with Joy! He will love it, and love that you got it for him!

Peace!

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T01 · 3 May 2018, 01:44 AM

Extremely considerate gesture, I hope it all works out in the end.

kzm40 · 3 May 2018, 02:09 AM

Looks good and great gesture.

Chiboy · 3 May 2018, 02:14 AM

This thread is from January. I imagine things are a lot clearer now...

liuk3 · 3 May 2018, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KateB

Hello TRF!

I am new to the forum but have been lurking for a very long time on TRF to build up my knowledge on watches.
I am in my mid 20s and have finally saved up enough money, after meeting all my priorities, for a 16713 Root Beer. I will get the watch in the next few days and will be posting more pictures. I plan to give this to my father for his up coming birthday. He has been wanting a X serial (my birth year) Root Beer all his life but every time he had his chance to get the watch, he chose to spend the money on us. He is still holding on the 16713 Root Beer paper cut out I made for him when I was a kid so I know how much he wants that watch.
In a few days I will finally get the watch. I am planning to get it to a watch maker who has a Rolex account to look at the watch. In the meantime, I am pleading the wise men of TRF for help and give me your opinions. The resolution of the pictures are not great and sometimes overblown, but please do your best to tell me if there are any red flags you see.
Also I am hoping to get your opinion if the watch has been over polished and do you think I should get it polished and get a new bezel insert?

Thank you so much for your help! I promise you I will repay TRF with a lot of interesting stories!

Kate

Kate, we're eagerly awaiting the conclusion of your story (if there is one)!

KateB · 3 May 2018, 02:48 AM

OMG OMG! this is my first post on TRF! I did not expect it will get revived :D

Not sure if this is bad TRF etiquette but I "moved" my questions to the Vintage board after. I did get a lot of expert's help there. I thought at that time a 16713 is considered vintage

very lucky that people are so nice and did not kick me out.

I sent the watch for service and got him a new bezel insert for the watch and did not have it refinished at that time. I am going to send it to Rik after Dad's honeymoon period to refinish the case.
My dad likes the Root Beer a lot and wear it with the leather NATO I got him.

Some pictures and wristshot of the Root Beer in this thread:
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=582419

Kate

HogwldFLTR · 3 May 2018, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KateB

OMG OMG! this is my first post on TRF! I did not expect it will get revived :D

Not sure if this is bad TRF etiquette but I "moved" my questions to the Vintage board after. I did get a lot of expert's help there. I thought at that time a 16713 is considered vintage

very lucky that people are so nice and did not kick me out.

I sent the watch for service and got him a new bezel insert for the watch and did not have it refinished at that time. I am going to send it to Rik after Dad's honeymoon period to refinish the case.
My dad likes the Root Beer a lot and wear it with the leather NATO I got him.

Some pictures and wristshot of the Root Beer in this thread:
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=582419

Kate

Great story and beautiful gesture on your part!!!! I'm sending a back channel email regarding local service.

HogwldFLTR · 3 May 2018, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LSLeo

It’s a fake.

The watch has already serviced since it was purchased. I don't think you know what you're talking about.

037 · 3 May 2018, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSLeo

You see how cheap the watch face is? All I can see is brown.

Yeah, that's how it's supposed to look.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rolex+16713

Click on "Images" for a history lesson. This is a vintage piece manufactured circa 1991.

With all due respect, you don't know enough about vintage Rolex to call this a fake or cheap. Save that call for the experts.

Bladeshot · 3 May 2018, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KateB

OMG OMG! this is my first post on TRF! I did not expect it will get revived :D

Not sure if this is bad TRF etiquette but I "moved" my questions to the Vintage board after. I did get a lot of expert's help there. I thought at that time a 16713 is considered vintage

very lucky that people are so nice and did not kick me out.

I sent the watch for service and got him a new bezel insert for the watch and did not have it refinished at that time. I am going to send it to Rik after Dad's honeymoon period to refinish the case.

My dad likes the Root Beer a lot and wear it with the leather NATO I got him.

Some pictures and wristshot of the Root Beer in this thread:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=582419

Kate

Congrats! Glad it worked out, and interesting old thread! Lots of helpful experts here on the forum.

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Rock · 3 May 2018, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladeshot

Congrats! Glad it worked out, and interesting old thread! Lots of helpful experts here on the forum.

...and some that aren't.

codecow · 3 May 2018, 01:00 PM

The lugs look good. Of course if handling it would be obvious but best to have it opened if not buying from a trusted source.

037 · 3 May 2018, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSLeo

And how do you know I am no expert? Go take a look at your “history lesson “. The 24 hour ring on all watches are brown and gold. This one here looks brown and silver.

The GMT above is 100% correct. The photos above are brown and gold. Take another look.

Besides, any genuine bezel in brown and silver is caused by fading in sunlight. The gold anodizing is the first to fade out, leaving only the aluminum color behind. Also, solid brown bezels existed on the root beer models, not just bi-color. An expert would know all of this.

Here's a photo of one that has faded to silver:

KateB · 4 May 2018, 04:56 AM

A double posted it in the Vintage board so I hope that's ok.

I really appreciate everyone's kind words and PMs. :)

Sorry I wasn't responding to some of you earlier fearing I may keep bumping this thread. :P But I think it is bad etiquette for not responding too...

One thing I do want to share is while I was saving & searching for this Root Beer, I have developed a deep interest (obsession) into vintage timepieces and I feel very lucky to find this forum that never ceases to amaze.

22 January 2018, 03:46 PM	#1
KateB "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Kate Location: Boston Watch: AK14000 & GMT16710 Posts: 110	New member pleading for help on a 16713 Root Beer Hello TRF! I am new to the forum but have been lurking for a very long time on TRF to build up my knowledge on watches. I am in my mid 20s and have finally saved up enough money, after meeting all my priorities, for a 16713 Root Beer. I will get the watch in the next few days and will be posting more pictures. I plan to give this to my father for his up coming birthday. He has been wanting a X serial (my birth year) Root Beer all his life but every time he had his chance to get the watch, he chose to spend the money on us. He is still holding on the 16713 Root Beer paper cut out I made for him when I was a kid so I know how much he wants that watch. In a few days I will finally get the watch. I am planning to get it to a watch maker who has a Rolex account to look at the watch. In the meantime, I am pleading the wise men of TRF for help and give me your opinions. The resolution of the pictures are not great and sometimes overblown, but please do your best to tell me if there are any red flags you see. Also I am hoping to get your opinion if the watch has been over polished and do you think I should get it polished and get a new bezel insert? Thank you so much for your help! I promise you I will repay TRF with a lot of interesting stories! Kate Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 May 2018, 11:38 PM	#11
jets "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mario Location: CANADA Posts: 2,483	You're a great kid doing that for your Dad. While I am no expert I have to say that the am concerned about the date wheel. The 6 in '26' looks a bit too clean with minimal serif to the font. It could be the angle the photos were taken at but I looked at some older 26's and the 6 bugs me a bit. As far as the insert goes getting a better genuine condition insert is okay just keep the original one as in the future things like this can increase the monetary value. The bracelet looks a bit rounded on the edges but a good watch maker can probably improve the look of it. __________________ ♛ DJII 116234 · Submariner 126610LV · Yacht Master 42 226659 ✿ Pelagos 25600TN Ω X-33 Speedmaster Skywalker · 1861 Speedmaster Modsukoshi · SMP 2254.50 · SMP 2230.50 NAC · Seamaster 300 166.0324 · Genève 162.037 Seiko SLA033 Willard · SKX007

3 May 2018, 02:14 AM	#15
Chiboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: Daytona Posts: 5,572	This thread is from January. I imagine things are a lot clearer now... __________________ Datejust w/black Tapestry dial (1985) / Daytona (2016)

22 January 2018, 03:58 PM	#2
KateB "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Kate Location: Boston Watch: AK14000 & GMT16710 Posts: 110	Not sure how to post more pictures... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 January 2018, 03:59 PM	#3
KateB "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Kate Location: Boston Watch: AK14000 & GMT16710 Posts: 110	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 January 2018, 04:01 PM	#4
KateB "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Kate Location: Boston Watch: AK14000 & GMT16710 Posts: 110	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 January 2018, 04:09 PM	#6
michaelodonnell123 Banned Join Date: Feb 2017 Real Name: Michael Location: NJ Watch: Panerai 112 Posts: 1,172	Before you polish it and get a bezel insert, verify that it is 100% genuine Rolex. There are a lot of fake and FrankenRolex's on the market and you don't want to get stuck with one. Have two independent sources open the watch and verify everything. Some folks will chime in and say "don't buy the watch, buy the seller". That does not fly by me as "Trusted Sellers' can't always be trusted because they too get stuck with lemons and can unintentionally sell them. The used Rolex market is very precarious so proceed with caution.

22 January 2018, 04:31 PM	#7
KateB "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Kate Location: Boston Watch: AK14000 & GMT16710 Posts: 110	Yes, I am lucky enough that my mentor (a very interesting lady who rocks in a 1675 Pepsi) knows a watchmaker here in Boston. Otherwise I may need to send it to RSC and will be way over the return period. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 January 2018, 01:16 PM	#8
KateB "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Kate Location: Boston Watch: AK14000 & GMT16710 Posts: 110	Just got the shipment confirmation from the seller. Gosh, this is truly nail biting... Your opinion or evaluation of this watch will be most appreciated! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 May 2018, 01:41 AM	#12
siempreko "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Maryland, USA Watch: Sometimes Posts: 1,197	It looks beautifully aged! What a phenomenal gift to give your dad! Get it checked out and give it with Joy! He will love it, and love that you got it for him! Peace! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 May 2018, 01:44 AM	#13
T01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: T Location: AZ, NV, CA Posts: 6,490	Extremely considerate gesture, I hope it all works out in the end.

3 May 2018, 02:09 AM	#14
kzm40 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Posts: 713	Looks good and great gesture.

3 May 2018, 02:48 AM	#17
KateB "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Kate Location: Boston Watch: AK14000 & GMT16710 Posts: 110	OMG OMG! this is my first post on TRF! I did not expect it will get revived :D Not sure if this is bad TRF etiquette but I "moved" my questions to the Vintage board after. I did get a lot of expert's help there. I thought at that time a 16713 is considered vintage very lucky that people are so nice and did not kick me out. I sent the watch for service and got him a new bezel insert for the watch and did not have it refinished at that time. I am going to send it to Rik after Dad's honeymoon period to refinish the case. My dad likes the Root Beer a lot and wear it with the leather NATO I got him. Some pictures and wristshot of the Root Beer in this thread: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=582419 Kate

3 May 2018, 01:00 PM	#23
codecow "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: PP 5131R Posts: 5,195	The lugs look good. Of course if handling it would be obvious but best to have it opened if not buying from a trusted source.

4 May 2018, 04:56 AM	#25
KateB "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Kate Location: Boston Watch: AK14000 & GMT16710 Posts: 110	A double posted it in the Vintage board so I hope that's ok. I really appreciate everyone's kind words and PMs. :) Sorry I wasn't responding to some of you earlier fearing I may keep bumping this thread. :P But I think it is bad etiquette for not responding too... One thing I do want to share is while I was saving & searching for this Root Beer, I have developed a deep interest (obsession) into vintage timepieces and I feel very lucky to find this forum that never ceases to amaze.

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