SkyDweller query

[1210tech]

I’ve just been in the Rolex AD in the Dubai Mall at the Burj Khalifa and they had what I thought was a Steel & White Gold black baton SkyDweller, ref 326934.

I asked if I could see said model and pointed it out but the assistant said ‘it’s not steel, it’s white gold’ to which I replied ‘Yeah, white gold bezel but steel case & bracelet’

He would not agree with me and repeated his original statement and then got it out of the case to let me check the ref number on the white tag which read 326939!

How is this possible? According to the Rolex website the white gold is not available with the new 2017 baton dial???

[cuibono]

Check this out: https://davidsw.com/product/rolex-32...ith-blue-dial/

They exist! You should be able to differentiate between all gold and steel by the weight alone. Did it feel heavy when compared to other SS models e.g. sub?

[1210tech]

Originally Posted by cuibono

Check this out: https://davidsw.com/product/rolex-32...ith-blue-dial/

They exist! You should be able to differentiate between all gold and steel by the weight alone. Did it feel heavy when compared to other SS models e.g. sub?

Thanks

Yes it did feel heavy compared to my GMT and that with the ref number was what confused me, I’ve never seen or heard of a full white gold with the new 2017 dial...I thought my luck was in when I spotted it

Are they a special order then with the new dial?

[cuibono]

Not sure. Someone in another thread said something along the lines of "If I had a 50k watch and wanted the dial changed, I'm sure Rolex would accommodate" so that's what I assumed would happen but for a model to be new with that dial, the only logical conclusion is 1- special order 2- regular stock

I'm guessing 2 given how popular the dials are in SS. I'm sure Rolex wanted to give that option to existing PM SkyD users should they want to swap it.

My 2 cents, only speculation.

R

[Hot Carl]

The new dial is available as an option on both watches. You could also switch dials during a a service.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by cuibono

Not sure. Someone in another thread said something along the lines of "If I had a 50k watch and wanted the dial changed, I'm sure Rolex would accommodate" so that's what I assumed would happen but for a model to be new with that dial, the only logical conclusion is 1- special order 2- regular stock

I'm guessing 2 given how popular the dials are in SS. I'm sure Rolex wanted to give that option to existing PM SkyD users should they want to swap it.

My 2 cents, only speculation.

R

Rolex would not accommodate if the dial is not available in that particular watch. As a matter of fact, any dealer or official Rolex watchmaker who gets caught with a dial swap like this is risking his dealership.

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Rolex would not accommodate if the dial is not available in that particular watch. As a matter of fact, any dealer or official Rolex watchmaker who gets caught with a dial swap like this is risking his dealership.

It is my understanding that Rolex is accommodating the stick dials for the PMs but not Roman or Arabics for Rolesors.

[Hot Carl]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Rolex would not accommodate if the dial is not available in that particular watch. As a matter of fact, any dealer or official Rolex watchmaker who gets caught with a dial swap like this is risking his dealership.

The same was said for the chocolate arabic dial that was originally exclusive to the 116515LN however it eventually became available for the 116505. Rolex have skipped the waiting stage on this one and the dial is available for the WG model however Rolex don't swap the dials on this watch outside of servicing.

[tx02ag]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

It is my understanding that Rolex is accommodating the stick dials for the PMs but not Roman or Arabics for Rolesors.

You are correct and the Dial Catalog confirms.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

It is my understanding that Rolex is accommodating the stick dials for the PMs but not Roman or Arabics for Rolesors.

I wasn't specifically talking about the SkyDweller, I am not 100% sure which dials I am allowed to put in which models, I'd have to look that up in the system.

If a customer wants a particular dial for a watch that doesn't officially carry that dial then this is not allowed. One could always source a dial online and go through an independent, of course.

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by tx02ag

You are correct and the Dial Catalog confirms.

Thanks, someone posted photos of that a while back; I remember now!

[tng11]

In the dial catalogue, the dial with baton markers as used in the 326934 is also shown as a option under 326939. The inverse is not true - 326939 dials are not available on the 326934. In other words, these baton marker dials are a valid combination in the WG SkyD.

[Dirt]

I believe this has been covered on this forum before with an extract from the Rolex catalogue.

If I recall correctly, the Blue dial is possibly not an option for the PM versions with the White and Black only available on the PM versions where it suits the watch.
The SS watch dials are not universally able to be ordered for the PM watches.

[Hot Carl]

Originally Posted by tng11

In the dial catalogue, the dial with baton markers as used in the 326934 is also shown as a option under 326939. The inverse is not true - 326939 dials are not available on the 326934. In other words, these baton marker dials are a valid combination in the WG SkyD.

Correct!

[DoctorA]

I don’t know why would I buy a watch for three times the price yet looks like ss??!!

[JParm]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I don’t know why would I buy a watch for three times the price yet looks like ss??!!

I'm with you there. Though, others have noted that those with indisposable incomes could care less about $$ and want what they want, so I guess for them, the all white gold model with baton dial is something that they can spend their money on.

But for guys like you and me...absolutely obnoxious

[jackcarls0n]

Most PM Rolexes are distinguishable because of their unique dials or other differences. The ad on DavidSW's site confused me too. Why would you pay twice as much for a white gold watch with a dial that is normally available only on steel, and the watch looks like a SS Sky-d? If it had Roman or Arabic numerals than its a different game. Or atleast the internal ring of different color.

Almost 100% of times, no one would believe you if you wore Sky-D with blue dial and said its all WG. Maybe carry the receipt and attach the reference number tag to the watch.

But something that doesn't exist on Rolex's website is at sale at an AD? Is this possible? Or the AD put the tag to avoid selling it to walk-in!!
Or as other's mentioned it maybe on a catalog. Either ways paying 40K or 30K for same watch, with same dial, same movement, as a 14K watch is obnoxious.
Strange!

[joli160]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I don’t know why would I buy a watch for three times the price yet looks like ss??!!

Because it doesn't and it feels really different

[Jeffreyc87]

Originally Posted by jackcarls0n

Most PM Rolexes are distinguishable because of their unique dials or other differences. The ad on DavidSW's site confused me too. Why would you pay twice as much for a white gold watch with a dial that is normally available only on steel, and the watch looks like a SS Sky-d? If it had Roman or Arabic numerals than its a different game. Or atleast the internal ring of different color.

Almost 100% of times, no one would believe you if you wore Sky-D with blue dial and said its all WG. Maybe carry the receipt and attach the reference number tag to the watch.

But something that doesn't exist on Rolex's website is at sale at an AD? Is this possible? Or the AD put the tag to avoid selling it to walk-in!!
Or as other's mentioned it maybe on a catalog. Either ways paying 40K or 30K for same watch, with same dial, same movement, as a 14K watch is obnoxious.
Strange!

I agree it’s a little odd but I love the heft of wg but don’t like the dials offered on the wg model aka Roman or Arabic numerals. But love the blue stick dial.

It wears so much heavier than ss that I would know it’s wg and arent concerned that others would think its steel.

The olive green anniversary DD40 Dial is a available on the pt watch with smooth bezel. As beautiful as that olive green dial looks on white gold… The look of the olive green dial On the super white frosty cold looking platinum is absolutely stunning and has to be seen to be believed.

[Chiboy]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I don’t know why would I buy a watch for three times the price yet looks like ss??!!

Why would someone pay 3x as much just to get a different dial on a WG or platinum watch that looks like SS metal-wise? It's not like that makes a whole lot more sense.

If you're buying something for yourself, you get what you want and can afford. If you're buying to impress strangers in a bar, I guess you get yellow gold or yellow gold-plate.

My real point is that you can't really "justify" by looks the price difference for PM watches that are available for 1/2 or 1/4 or 1/5 as much in SS.

[jackcarls0n]

Originally Posted by Jeffreyc87

I agree it’s a little odd but I love the heft of wg but don’t like the dials offered on the wg model aka Roman or Arabic numerals. But love the blue stick dial.

It wears so much heavier than ss that I would know it’s wg and arent concerned that others would think its steel.

The olive green anniversary DD40 Dial is a available on the pt watch with smooth bezel. As beautiful as that olive green dial looks on white gold… The look of the olive green dial On the super white frosty cold looking platinum is absolutely stunning and has to be seen to be believed.

I can agree with your point there. It is a personal decision and if it makes a big difference. Besides, it maybe also one of a kind.

BTW the catalog mentioned above, is there an online or electronic version of that?

[Jeffreyc87]

Originally Posted by jackcarls0n

I can agree with your point there. It is a personal decision and if it makes a big difference. Besides, it maybe also one of a kind.

BTW the catalog mentioned above, is there an online or electronic version of that?

When u go to rolex.com and configure a pt DD40 it gives u all the glacier blue dial option plus any dial offered in white gold... olive green, blue, Rhodium etc.

It doesn’t do that for ss skydweller Dials being on wg models but the separate dial parts list has all skyD ss Dials as options on wg models and all tt dials as options for yg.

[watchwatcher]

Interesting...I have long been a fan of the WG model with black dial and arabics. Love the stick dial of the steel models. If Rolex would re-work the dial to have the white 24 hr wheel of the PM and the sticks of the SS, I would be on the phone tomorrow.

[jrs146]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I don’t know why would I buy a watch for three times the price yet looks like ss??!!

I think that’s precisely why some people may choose to buy it. Under the radar to the general public. But they know it’s PM.


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[mahefa]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I don’t know why would I buy a watch for three times the price yet looks like ss??!!

Because of the heft and feel.

I bought platinum Day-Date as it does not bring any attention, to most it looks like just an ”old steel watch”. But i enjoy it as the best of my collection and without an audience.

[DoctorA]

Originally Posted by mahefa

Because of the heft and feel.

I bought platinum Day-Date as it does not bring any attention, to most it looks like just an ”old steel watch”. But i enjoy it as the best of my collection and without an audience.

I’m not arguing any of that. I guess my point is (to me) why not spend the money on another watch that is also unique but doesn’t menic another “cheaper” watch lol
I guess it’s all perspective and that’s why there are all those models to cater to any and all tastes and reasons

[yannis]

Originally Posted by cuibono

Check this out: https://davidsw.com/product/rolex-32...ith-blue-dial/

They exist! You should be able to differentiate between all gold and steel by the weight alone. Did it feel heavy when compared to other SS models e.g. sub?

It seems that if they have made an exact copy for the WG in SS why not do the same for the BLRO version on the GMT.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I don’t know why would I buy a watch for three times the price yet looks like ss??!!

Because for some, feeling the need to have others know its a precious metal watch is not important.

[Mystro]

I believe Platinum and White Gold models are for the owner and not for the bragging rights. The average person will always assume they are made out of SS so the minor hue difference between the three won’t be appreciated by anyone but the owners knowledge. If you want to “wow” the average joe, go yellow gold.

[Trek737]

Originally Posted by jrs146

I think that’s precisely why some people may choose to buy it. Under the radar to the general public. But they know it’s PM.


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Originally Posted by mahefa

Because of the heft and feel.

I bought platinum Day-Date as it does not bring any attention, to most it looks like just an ”old steel watch”. But i enjoy it as the best of my collection and without an audience.

Originally Posted by Devildog

Because for some, feeling the need to have others know its a precious metal watch is not important.

Originally Posted by Mystro

I believe Platinum and White Gold models are for the owner and not for the bragging rights. The average person will always assume they are made out of SS so the minor hue difference between the three won’t be appreciated by anyone but the owners knowledge. If you want to “wow” the average joe, go yellow gold.

I agree with the above statements. I said in a different thread that all the hype is on SS, because it’s new models and shortage of supply, but you would think the PM models would be the most desirable ones to have.

When I take off by bleusy and put on my SS sub I feel like wow this is a cheaper watch... it does not have the same feel. If I could have all the new models in white gold, and I had the funds, I would never get SS. No need for anyone to appreciate it or know about it but me.