The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Other (non-Rolex) Watch Topics > Audemars Piguet Discussion Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 19 February 2018, 01:32 PM   #1
Aashi999
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: India
Posts: 19
Laptimer! Sell it or keep it?

Hi, I’m considering selling my Laptimer to get the 2018 ROO 25th Anniversary tourbillion in steel. What would you advise me to do?

Thanks
Aashi999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 February 2018, 02:01 PM   #2
DeeTee
"TRF" Member
 
DeeTee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Los Angeles
Watch: Netflix
Posts: 3,978
Definitely try first.
Two totally different beasts.
DeeTee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 February 2018, 02:16 PM   #3
dchang81
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 2,172
laptimer seems like a lot more unique piece to me. then again i dont have anywhere near the scratch to even consider 200k timepieces.
dchang81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 February 2018, 02:40 PM   #4
2Redbulls
"TRF" Member
 
2Redbulls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Real Name: Tom
Location: Morgan Hill, CA
Watch: I give up..
Posts: 719
As a huge F1 fan, a watch that's associated with the greatest F1 driver, there's no way I would sell it. For anything....
2Redbulls is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 February 2018, 02:42 PM   #5
Aashi999
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: India
Posts: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeTee View Post
Definitely try first.
Two totally different beasts.
Unfortunately I can’t try it. My dealer has just one piece available and I need to confirm with a deposit in the next 2 days. I believe he has another client waiting.
Aashi999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 February 2018, 02:48 PM   #6
Aashi999
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: India
Posts: 19
I absolutely love The Laptimer. It is definitely unique but it’s not a very comfortable watch to wear on the wrist.
Also, the only reason I’m considering selling it is because it doesn’t seem to be holding/appreciating in value like the other Schumachers.
Aashi999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 February 2018, 03:03 PM   #7
conkers
"TRF" Member
 
conkers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Real Name: Roger
Location: Hong Kong
Watch: Too many!
Posts: 6,116
Asking prices are pretty stable on this model although trade bids for cash are ugly. Of course asking prices are just that, asking prices. I see trade bids at about 160-170 and you can probably buy used at about 190 with some effort. For an AP of this value, that is actually pretty good value retention IMHO. In my view the anniversary pieces, which are priced a lot higher, do seem to polarise opinions and I reckon you could lose a lot more unless there is a decent discount on offer.
__________________
IG: @conkers1971
Revolution Video Feature: https://www.revolution.watch/collect...f-conkers1971/
conkers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 February 2018, 05:57 AM   #8
wach16
"TRF" Member
 
wach16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Real Name: Chris
Location: NH
Watch: 228239, PAM00684
Posts: 2,121
As much as I love the laptimer, I have never been a fan of the concept cases. I would spring for the new anniversary model
__________________

Rolex 228239
PAM00684
wach16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 February 2018, 06:20 AM   #9
GB-man
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
GB-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: USA
Watch: addiction issues
Posts: 37,355
I have no idea. Listen to roger

Good luck!
__________________
GB-man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 February 2018, 07:58 AM   #10
Xerxes77
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Home!
Posts: 3,307
Don’t like concept case.....
Xerxes77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 February 2018, 09:24 AM   #11
ros
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Australia
Watch: Audemars Piguet
Posts: 30
If I owned the laptimer, I'd personally keep it as it's associated to Michael Schumacher.

That said François-Henry Bennahmias said that that design would be exclusive for that because they want to start recognizing "that market" that supports those releases and not release so many LE's and copies and keep the exclusivity.

(Contradictory I know) I really do like the 25th anniversary and if I was at that level, I'd get it as it's a pretty special piece and stands out a lot more (in person) than the laptimer.
ros is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 February 2018, 08:18 AM   #12
AshAP
"TRF" Member
 
AshAP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Real Name: Ash
Location: UK
Watch: AP Royal Oak
Posts: 4,544
I really do like the Laptimer and I really don’t like the anniversary tourbillon but I haven’t tried on either watch.

I see the dilemma though as there’s not much point owning a watch that you don’t find comfortable to wear. The anniversary tourbillon does look like a very bulky watch so there’s no guarantee that this would be more comfortable.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
AshAP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 February 2018, 09:10 AM   #13
Colin W
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 1,314
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aashi999 View Post
I absolutely love The Laptimer. It is definitely unique but it’s not a very comfortable watch to wear on the wrist.
Also, the only reason I’m considering selling it is because it doesn’t seem to be holding/appreciating in value like the other Schumachers.


If you don’t enjoy wearing it then I would get rid of it.
Value wise as Roger said it’s looking ok ish for Laptimer, however ROO Schumi prices have soared.
If you go for the 25th Anniversary piece make sure you buy it right or I guess you may also become disappointed with its value further down the line.
Good luck


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Colin W is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 February 2018, 09:33 AM   #14
Aashi999
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: India
Posts: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by conkers View Post
Asking prices are pretty stable on this model although trade bids for cash are ugly. Of course asking prices are just that, asking prices. I see trade bids at about 160-170 and you can probably buy used at about 190 with some effort. For an AP of this value, that is actually pretty good value retention IMHO. In my view the anniversary pieces, which are priced a lot higher, do seem to polarise opinions and I reckon you could lose a lot more unless there is a decent discount on offer.
Hey Roger, thanks a lot for the information. I got an offer of 180k so I’m guessing that’s a good offer after reading your message. I see a lot of RM’s holding/aprreciating in value lately. Do you think I should go in that direction instead? I just want my watches to be good investments that’s all.
Aashi999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 February 2018, 09:42 AM   #15
Aashi999
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: India
Posts: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by ros View Post
If I owned the laptimer, I'd personally keep it as it's associated to Michael Schumacher.

That said François-Henry Bennahmias said that that design would be exclusive for that because they want to start recognizing "that market" that supports those releases and not release so many LE's and copies and keep the exclusivity.

(Contradictory I know) I really do like the 25th anniversary and if I was at that level, I'd get it as it's a pretty special piece and stands out a lot more (in person) than the laptimer.
I actually have the titanium and the gold schumachers also which went up a lot in value since I bought them so I don’t think i will regret getting rid of this one. But what you’re saying is absolutely right. It definitely is a very very unique watch to own. I really wish I could see the 25th Anniversary in person before sending a deposit.
Aashi999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 February 2018, 09:48 AM   #16
Aashi999
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: India
Posts: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by AshAP View Post
I really do like the Laptimer and I really don’t like the anniversary tourbillon but I haven’t tried on either watch.

I see the dilemma though as there’s not much point owning a watch that you don’t find comfortable to wear. The anniversary tourbillon does look like a very bulky watch so there’s no guarantee that this would be more comfortable.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I think the shape of the concept case and the folding clasp is what makes the Laptimer uncomfortable to wear. The thickness of the case on the 25th Anniversary looked similar to the 44mm so I don’t think it can be bulkier than the Laptimer
Aashi999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 February 2018, 09:53 AM   #17
Aashi999
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: India
Posts: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colin W View Post
If you don’t enjoy wearing it then I would get rid of it.
Value wise as Roger said it’s looking ok ish for Laptimer, however ROO Schumi prices have soared.
If you go for the 25th Anniversary piece make sure you buy it right or I guess you may also become disappointed with its value further down the line.
Good luck


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Right now I’m only getting a marginal discount but I’m assuming it would hold its value since it’s a LE of only 25 pieces and it’s an Anniversary edition. I could be wrong.
Aashi999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 February 2018, 04:10 PM   #18
conkers
"TRF" Member
 
conkers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Real Name: Roger
Location: Hong Kong
Watch: Too many!
Posts: 6,116
180 is a solid bid for the Lap Timer if that is a cash bid.

Whilst limited certainly helps it is no guarantee of value retention. If you see Watches as an investment and you only buy new then I am afraid I would steer clear of AP tourbillons generally. I own a few and have owned others in the past so I do have real world experience.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aashi999 View Post
Right now I’m only getting a marginal discount but I’m assuming it would hold its value since it’s a LE of only 25 pieces and it’s an Anniversary edition. I could be wrong.
__________________
IG: @conkers1971
Revolution Video Feature: https://www.revolution.watch/collect...f-conkers1971/
conkers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 February 2018, 04:15 PM   #19
GB-man
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
GB-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: USA
Watch: addiction issues
Posts: 37,355
Quote:
Originally Posted by conkers View Post
180 is a solid bid for the Lap Timer if that is a cash bid.

Whilst limited certainly helps it is no guarantee of value retention. If you see Watches as an investment and you only buy new then I am afraid I would steer clear of AP tourbillons generally. I own a few and have owned others in the past so I do have real world experience.
Free advice worth taking. Class is in session when roger shares
__________________
GB-man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 February 2018, 04:15 PM   #20
AshAP
"TRF" Member
 
AshAP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Real Name: Ash
Location: UK
Watch: AP Royal Oak
Posts: 4,544
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aashi999 View Post
Right now I’m only getting a marginal discount but I’m assuming it would hold its value since it’s a LE of only 25 pieces and it’s an Anniversary edition. I could be wrong.
There are only 25 in the world, it’s the latest model and they’re offering a discount, the answer is that for whatever reason the demand isn’t especially strong.
AshAP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 February 2018, 07:41 PM   #21
Marciano490
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Boston
Posts: 1,431
But you’ll make up the loss if they throw in an openwork!
Marciano490 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 February 2018, 08:05 PM   #22
Starwalker
"TRF" Member
 
Starwalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: aroundtheworld
Watch: SS Daytona - BLACK
Posts: 2,261
i'd keep the laptimer. it seems way more unique - ask AP to make you a more comfortable strap.
__________________
116520 Black - 116500 White - 116713LN - 116613LB - Panerai 389 - Chopard Mille Miglia GMT Chronograph - Chopard LUC Sport 2000 - Moser Pioneer Centre Seconds
Starwalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 February 2018, 12:15 PM   #23
Hairdude1
"TRF" Member
 
Hairdude1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Real Name: Alex
Location: Chicago
Watch: AP,PP, Rolex
Posts: 37,156
Roger has spoken, when he does I listen
__________________
Instagram: @Hairdude
Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238

16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped)
Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016
Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017
Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018
Hairdude1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 February 2018, 03:03 PM   #24
PPFANBOY
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 324
Sell it. Get Plat Schumi.
PPFANBOY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 February 2018, 03:29 PM   #25
masyv6
2024 Pledge Member
 
masyv6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Real Name: Mike
Location: 35000ft
Posts: 3,771
I'd keep the Laptimer if I owned one.
masyv6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 February 2018, 04:06 PM   #26
Marciano490
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Boston
Posts: 1,431
I’ll buy that laptimer on layaway.
Marciano490 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 February 2018, 04:34 PM   #27
lapince
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Mars
Watch: 5712
Posts: 11,509
Quote:
Originally Posted by PPFANBOY View Post
Sell it. Get Plat Schumi.
Yes, that’s a great idea, THE COOLEST ROO ever made IMO, Laptimer is nice but not a big fan, and the 25th is kinda awful for me, I think it will lose a lot of money if you decide to sell
lapince is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 February 2018, 12:23 AM   #28
mask1196
"TRF" Member
 
mask1196's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Real Name: Elliott
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,145
Quote:
Originally Posted by AshAP View Post
There are only 25 in the world, it’s the latest model and they’re offering a discount, the answer is that for whatever reason the demand isn’t especially strong.
Aren't they limited to 50 pcs each - SS & RG?
mask1196 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 February 2018, 01:51 PM   #29
VFA
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: SG
Posts: 391
Keep the lap timer. Its a unique watch with a unique complication. Like the unique double/triple split from lange. And has a great name on it. Probably the only name I would wear proudly. Laptimer is just so much more interesting than the tourbillon.

I agree with the other user. Talk to AP about improving comfort if the watch is unwearable.
VFA is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

My Watch LLC

WatchesOff5th

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

OCWatches

Asset Appeal

Wrist Aficionado


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.