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Old 31 March 2018, 10:21 PM   #1
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Need help on newly purchased polar 16570

Dear Watch lovers and experts,

I have recently purchased a polar W series 16570 and loving it. The lumes have no patina and being a 1995 watch, no longer glows. Not a problem to me.

Need your help on the cyclops size and alignment. When compared to a sub, the date appears not to project the same magnifly size . Also the alignment is off, on closer inspection.

Is this normal? Should I be worried?
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Old 31 March 2018, 10:40 PM   #2
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Dear Watch lovers and experts,



I have recently purchased a polar W series 16570 and loving it. The lumes have no patina and being a 1995 watch, no longer glows. Not a problem to me.



Need your help on the cyclops size and alignment. When compared to a sub, the date appears not to project the same magnifly size . Also the alignment is off, on closer inspection.



Is this normal? Should I be worried?


If you are sure the watch is authentic, it may just be the crystal is misaligned or after market. The crystal is relatively inexpensive to sort out. Just be sure the rest of the watch is legit. Pictures would help.


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Old 31 March 2018, 10:45 PM   #3
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A picture is worth a thousand words and the number of words in the original post isn't close to that. Post a photo and you'll get a better response. That being, what the prior responder said.
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Old 31 March 2018, 10:46 PM   #4
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If you are sure the watch is authentic, it may just be the crystal is misaligned or after market. The crystal is relatively inexpensive to sort out. Just be sure the rest of the watch is legit. Pictures would help.


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I got this from a 2nd hand retailer....

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Old 31 March 2018, 10:47 PM   #5
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I got this from a 2nd hand retailer....

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Old 31 March 2018, 10:51 PM   #6
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Explorers aren’t my thing but I’d be very uncomfortable with that... did you get a crazy-good bargain on it by any chance?

I’d definitely want to get the case back off and examine the movement ASAP...


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Old 31 March 2018, 10:53 PM   #7
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Explorers aren’t my thing but I’d be very uncomfortable with that... did you get a crazy-good bargain on it by any chance?

I’d definitely want to get the case back off and examine the movement ASAP...


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I got it from a reseller with a proper shop.... I believe the movement is authentic but concern on the crystal....

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Old 31 March 2018, 11:25 PM   #8
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Explorers aren’t my thing but I’d be very uncomfortable with that... did you get a crazy-good bargain on it by any chance?

I’d definitely want to get the case back off and examine the movement ASAP...


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Usd 3700......watch only with 10 links.... Dealer warranty for 2 years and receipt.... Believe it's a fair deal

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Old 31 March 2018, 11:34 PM   #9
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Had one circa 2001 the mag was not as strong as my subs of same era.
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Old 31 March 2018, 11:47 PM   #10
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Probability an after market and not original crystal. I doubt that Rolex QC will allow such misalignment. The magnification is also off, it should be much better (judging by my 2004 Exp II).

Can you locate the etched crown at 6 o'clock on the crystal?

The tritium on hands and indexes appears that has no patina, not even a hint - which find unusual.

Take it to a trusted watchmaker or to Rolex AD to check wether you've got non-original parts.

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Old 31 March 2018, 11:49 PM   #11
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Just based on the pics the cyclops mag looks way wrong. The price is suspiciously cheap as well although you did mention it wasnt the complete package. I would get that checked asap.
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Old 31 March 2018, 11:56 PM   #12
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No problem with the crystal. Just have to realign it a lot more in a clockwise manner.

I had the same experience recently. Took it to a competent watchmaker and did that, plus a pressure test.

Might be an aftermarket crystal since the mag is not that strong.

Also does the seller have a good reputation locally?

Wow for a W serial, those lume plots are surprisingly clean as hell...


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Old 31 March 2018, 11:59 PM   #13
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Owned three 16570's with production years spanning from early 90's to late 00's. None had a mag level that low. I'm thinking the crystal is aftermarket. The rest of the watch looks good though.

At $3700 I think it's worth keeping. Did the store give you a warranty?
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Probability an after market and not original crystal. I doubt that Rolex QC will allow such misalignment. The magnification is also off, it should be much better (judging by my 2004 Exp II).

Can you locate the etched crown at 6 o'clock on the crystal?

The tritium on hands and indexes appears that has no patina, not even a hint - which find unusual.

Take it to a trusted watchmaker or to Rolex AD to check wether you've got non-original parts.

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These are the concerns indeed..... How could it be possible to get fake parts when I got from a reseller with a licensed shop??? I mean what are these reseller doing? Don't they check?

The purpose of me getting from these licensed reseller is to get a real Rolex though they charge higher, now I have to worry about it's authenticity?? Omg.... Looks fake???

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Old 1 April 2018, 12:18 AM   #15
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Bracelet model num and end links look good.

Not sure if it’s the lighting but the coronet logo on your clasp seems a bit off? By no means I’m an expert.

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Old 1 April 2018, 12:26 AM   #16
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Bracelet model num and end links look good.

Not sure if it’s the lighting but the coronet logo on your clasp seems a bit off? By no means I’m an expert.

Here are some of my pics for you to compare.

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Thks buddy.... It's the lighting I believe....

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Old 1 April 2018, 12:27 AM   #17
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Owned three 16570's with production years spanning from early 90's to late 00's. None had a mag level that low. I'm thinking the crystal is aftermarket. The rest of the watch looks good though.

At $3700 I think it's worth keeping. Did the store give you a warranty?
2 years.... It's a listed company in my country

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Old 1 April 2018, 12:36 AM   #18
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No problem with the crystal. Just have to realign it a lot more in a clockwise manner.

I had the same experience recently. Took it to a competent watchmaker and did that, plus a pressure test.

Might be an aftermarket crystal since the mag is not that strong.

Also does the seller have a good reputation locally?

Wow for a W serial, those lume plots are surprisingly clean as hell...


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Normal to have clean white lume for tritium dial? 2 years in store warranty....

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Normal to have clean white lume for tritium dial? 2 years in store warranty....

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Definitely possible. I was just surprised.

Ive seen models from 1993 or even earlier having pretty clean white lume.

Some say creamy patina only develops when the watch is stored in the dark for extended periods of time...


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Definitely possible. I was just surprised.

Ive seen models from 1993 or even earlier having pretty clean white lume.

Some say creamy patina only develops when the watch is stored in the dark for extended periods of time...


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Im just disappointed with this reseller..... Beside the Cyclops, the rest looks authenticate?

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How could it be possible to get fake parts when I got from a reseller with a licensed shop??? I mean what are these reseller doing? Don't they check?
Not everyone has access to a Rolex parts account, so they buy some things in the secondary market, i.e., eBay, etc . . .
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Im just disappointed with this reseller..... Beside the Cyclops, the rest looks authenticate?

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Honetly the cyclopes isnt the end of the world considering you got it at 3700usd. These polars are trading at the 4.5k - 5.5k mark now.

Yeah the dial looks good to me but you can always check here:
https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/search?q=1995+16570

Just to compare what you have with similar pieces from 1995. Bear in mind that Rolex fonts on the dial change between years...so a little variation is nothing to fret about.
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Normal to have clean white lume for tritium dial? 2 years in store warranty....
Yes it is. My polar 16570 from 1996 is the same way. As others have stated, I believe there's something wrong with the cyclops magnification. Here's a couple of photos for reference..



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Yes it is. My polar 16570 from 1996 is the same way. As others have stated, I believe there's something wrong with the cyclops magnification. Here's a couple of photos for reference..



Thanks.... Mine so off from yours

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Honetly the cyclopes isnt the end of the world considering you got it at 3700usd. These polars are trading at the 4.5k - 5.5k mark now.

Yeah the dial looks good to me but you can always check here:
https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/search?q=1995+16570

Just to compare what you have with similar pieces from 1995. Bear in mind that Rolex fonts on the dial change between years...so a little variation is nothing to fret about.
Thanks.... You guys are so helpful.... Polar is not the Rolex to have in my country hence cheaper

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No laser etched crown in 1995.

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Probability an after market and not original crystal. I doubt that Rolex QC will allow such misalignment. The magnification is also off, it should be much better (judging by my 2004 Exp II).

Can you locate the etched crown at 6 o'clock on the crystal?

The tritium on hands and indexes appears that has no patina, not even a hint - which find unusual.

Take it to a trusted watchmaker or to Rolex AD to check wether you've got non-original parts.

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I think the LEC was introduced in 2001.
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I think the LEC was introduced in 2001.
LEC was introduced 2002

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Please post a photo of the hour hand over the GMT hand - then we can tell
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Likely an aftermarket crystal


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LEC was introduced 2002

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Please post a photo of the hour hand over the GMT hand - then we can tell
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