They're keeping the "papers"

[jb335]

I really don't see why anyone (at least anyone not intending to immediately flip) would care about this.

First, what are the odds you will need to use the warranty in the first year? Virtually none. Second, do you really think you wouldn't be able to use the warranty if on the small chance you actually had an issue with the watch in the first year?

Who care about the stupid warranty card the first year.

[Brew]

Originally Posted by jb335

I really don't see why anyone (at least anyone not intending to immediately flip) would care about this.

First, what are the odds you will need to use the warranty in the first year? Virtually none. Second, do you really think you wouldn't be able to use the warranty if on the small chance you actually had an issue with the watch in the first year?

Who care about the stupid warranty card the first year.

See Rolex's own words in post #85. Absent the card, I have been sold a promise.

[rolexinfl]

Originally Posted by Finslayer83

lol what.

I get Van Winkle every year and have never seen this done.

Me too, and it's never happened to me.

It's not a 'directive' thing...but store owners have done it.

[DARK_KNIGHT]

Originally Posted by Noonan

This doesn't really hurt gray dealers. It only hurts individuals who buy 1 or 2 to flip quickly. Gray dealers aren't buying their watches over an AD counter.

What is the provenance of the watches, grey´s are selling then?

Originally Posted by Noonan

Do any gray watches come with papers? Buying from a place like Joma or AuthenticWatches never come with proper AD papers; just their own warranty card.

I have bought grey , and have all corresponding documentation , and accessories. Dated and stamped too. I put my own name on the card.

Originally Posted by MinMay

rolex should rip up and discontinued the warranty card. It's so meaningless.

Rolex loves to create drama for some reason.

Drama is money. Money is power.

[Charlie don’t surf]

I've purchased two SS sport models in the past 30 days as a new customer from the same AD. No issues with AD wanting to hold paperwork. Though I made it a point to say that I had no problem if they did before transaction was executed. That seemed to ease any question if I was going to flip it or not.

[Tebow15]

What if they go out of business before year ends???


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[Stevec14]

We are raking over old ground here.

It’s becoming the norm (David m Robinson are doing it too). It’s quite simple. If you intend to keep the watch it’s no issue. You will get your card after 12 months. To receive a hot piece, I think it’s a price worth paying. What I would be interested to know is why anyone who has no intention of flipping the watch has a problem with, as this practice will more likely make it easier to get the next one as the flippers are weeded out.

Interestingly it seems to be working a bit. To my knowledge watchfinder have not had a new BLRO, when they had a blue sky dweller on day of release.

[Cheapside Genie]

Originally Posted by TakeYourTime

I would under no circumstances by a Rolex without getting the papers! It's different from AD to AD and if all "have" to do it I will switch to Patek and Lange

I do hope Rolex survives...

[T01]

Would never buy and not leave with papers, at least IMO.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by nvrp813

Straight from Rolex... A warranty card will be placed inside the box “at the moment of purchase”.




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I hate to be a pedantic ar$e, but that’s not what it says. It states that only an AD can do it. It also provides for an AD not doing it.

Nor does it say the card is part of the items purchased.

[Etschell]

i would tell them they need to keep it in a safe deposit box and let me know the location.

[watchbowl]

Any UK members who refuse to take a blue sky or blro without a card please point me in the direction of your AD, I’ll gladly have it!

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

you dont have to buy the watch and they don't have to sell it to you if they have one. Thats the deal at a lot of places otherwise they keep it and sell it to someone else instead.

Spot on.

I’d be careful to be too vocal about it or they could go cold and not sell to you at all.

[jaisonline]

Heck, I would prob hand over the wife for 1 year if it got me a white dial Daytona C at MSRP...

My AD can hold the box, papers, etc... for 10 years and I wouldn't care. Just let me walk out of the dealership with the watch.

[jb335]

Originally Posted by Brew

See Rolex's own words in post #85. Absent the card, I have been sold a promise.

That screenshot doe snot say the warranty card will be given at time of purcahse, but ok....you guys are obsessing on nonsense.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Tebow15

What if they go out of business before year ends???


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They call you up and give you the card early....they’d not close up with loads of warranty cards in their safe.

Worst case you’d have a photocopy and I’m sure given the situation, Rolex would replace the card.

Zero drama.

[Tebow15]

Originally Posted by Nairn1980

They call you up and give you the card early....they’d not close up with loads of warranty cards in their safe.



Worst case you’d have a photocopy and I’m sure given the situation, Rolex would replace the card.



Zero drama.

Let’s hope, but businesses going under usually don’t care about much besides cutting losses at that point.


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[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Noonan

This doesn't really hurt gray dealers. It only hurts individuals who buy 1 or 2 to flip quickly. Gray dealers aren't buying their watches over an AD counter.

Sure they are. Many if not all grey dealers have AD "friends." Were do you think their watches come from?

[turborolex]

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[uhren917]

ADs trying to limit flippers is laughable. They are part of the problem.

Govberg is selling a "used" BLRO for 23 big ones. I would post a link, but please go check it for yourselves. All these little, silly steps like keeping a warranty card is all show and are a complete JOKE.

[rexG]

Won't fix the problem.....only make it worse. Are we to assume the ADs who sell these watches to the Greys will now sell them and hold the papers? Which ones will risk that cash flow? I see this "policy" making things worse. Now, there will be another premium for a new watch with papers......on top of the existing premiums.

[rexG]

Originally Posted by turborolex

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This was posted by another member a while back


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They only "recommend" .......so whats all the fuss about?

[D O C]

Doesn't matter what your intentions are. "Oh I don't intend to flip the watch. I'm going to wear it forever."

What happens if you fall out of love with your new watch after a month or two and you want to sell it. It should be your prerogative to do that and not be held hostage by some AD because they have your warranty card. Now you can't sell it at full worth because you don't possess the full set right?

That being said, I say screw the AD. Go somewhere else if you have to go the AD route. That's why I don't deal with ADs.

[doctorstrange]

actually I want this policy to be carried out by all ADs in hong Kong. it's better than the ADs selling all their ss sport watches to the grey dealers themselves.

[AK797]

The choice ADs have at the moment is bundle or withhold. Withhold is much better for the genuine customer, esp as Rolex approve of this policy and probably suggested it, and will have systems in place with ADs so no legitimate buyer is not covered.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by D O C

Doesn't matter what your intentions are. "Oh I don't intend to flip the watch. I'm going to wear it forever."

What happens if you fall out of love with your new watch after a month or two and you want to sell it. It should be your prerogative to do that and not be held hostage by some AD because they have your warranty card. Now you can't sell it at full worth because you don't possess the full set right?

That being said, I say screw the AD. Go somewhere else if you have to go the AD route. That's why I don't deal with ADs.

Flippers and now one month later flippers are the ones Rolex want out of the market. Demand is so high now that the flipper tag has to be extended to those wishy washy types as well. They only want customers who will commit for one year and they have more than enough of those, so they are the priority.

There is still a doubt that the withhold will work as greys will circumvent this if it becomes the norm with slightly lower prices, so then bundling will be the only option, which is far more costly and causes another selling headache.

[ragsk]

I dont mind and supoort them witholding the guarantee card. But the policy is being inconsistently applied. I have recently bought three rolexes in Europe and the dealers involved havent even mentioned it and have just given me everything. For example im currently on holiday in greece and this week walked into an AD here and bought a Sub Date - the dealer didnt even bother taking the stickers off. As it was a present for my nephew I had to ask him to do it! He even said they dont out a name on he warranty card....

[outtatime]

Originally Posted by AK797

The choice ADs have at the moment is bundle or withhold. Withhold is much better for the genuine customer, esp as Rolex approve of this policy and probably suggested it, and will have systems in place with ADs so no legitimate buyer is not covered.

It’s better for me (the customer) if the AD does not give me everything that belongs to me when I pay for it?

Sorry but to me that’s just more toe-the-line Rolex zealotry to me. I don’t work for Rolex and don’t owe them anything.

If an AD did this to me I would not buy from them, “hot piece” or not.

If it’s only “encouraged” then the answer to this problem is simple: stop buying from these shady dealers and they’ll get the point eventually.

[ragsk]

Originally Posted by outtatime

It’s better for me (the customer) if the AD does not give me everything that belongs to me when I pay for it?

Sorry but to me that’s just more toe-the-line Rolex zealotry to me. I don’t work for Rolex and don’t owe them anything.

If an AD did this to me I would not buy from them, “hot piece” or not.

If it’s only “encouraged” then the answer to this problem is simple: stop buying from these shady dealers and they’ll get the point eventually.

Its better than not getting the watch as they are all being flipped / gone to greys and sold at a premium to msrp.....

I also dont think ADs who are following Rolexs recommendation should be classified as “shady”. They have zero benefit from doing this, just adminisitrative headache.

The point being is I would rather buy the watch - if the AD keeping the card for a year increases my probability of buyng a sports SS Rolex at the official price then im all for it.

Maybe it works maybe it doesnt. At least Rolex are trying. it seems like some guys on this thread would rather they hunt harder for the watch itself / pay a premium to a grey dealer and “possess” a plastic card for 12 months.

[scooba]

I think all Aurum group dealers are doing this in the UK , to clients they don't know , I think if you are known to the Staff there is some flexibility and gentlemen agreements in place , I don't have a problem with it but I don't really flip watches either . I realise you can't always keep them all , But if it stops the greys then great .