Gluten free anyone?

[Moggo]

I saw a nutritionist and recommended going gluten and dairy free, been a few days and feel worse!

Is anyone following this kind of diet? Any hints or tips, it’s tough!

Thanks.


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[Abdullah71601]

Latest fads. Some people have real physical ailments from gluten and dairy, but most don't. It seems like everyone wants to generalize that they're bad for you.

I'm sticking with the land of milk and honey. What did they recommend as replacements in your diet for these nutrition sources?

[Andad]

You will soon start to enjoy it.

Takes about a lifetime.

[Moggo]

Thanks for the vote of confidence......haha

Anyone have a positive experience?




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[Cryten]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Latest fads. Some people have real physical ailments from gluten and dairy, but most don't. It seems like everyone wants to generalize that they're bad for you.

I'm sticking with the land of milk and honey. What did they recommend as replacements in your diet for these nutrition sources?

Exactly. I knew a Girl who had Celiac and avoiding gluten was medically necessary. Seeing all these trendy hipsters going gluten free because it's the latest fad makes me laugh.

Nutrition isn't a science, nutritionists are constantly changing their minds on what a good diet is. Next week they'll be telling us going gluten free causes cancer.

If there's no medical reason for it, then why avoid it?

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Moggo

Thanks for the vote of confidence......haha

Anyone have a positive experience?




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You can always pick out fake science when you don't get the risk-reward discussion.

There are positive benefits to every dietary item, as well as potential risk. If your nutritionist is just saying to cut these foods out, but is not saying what their benefits are, and what alternatives will replace these benefits, then it's just another fashion that will increase your grocery bill without improving your health.

[Art 1]

People over think dieting and eating properly.

[Moggo]

I guess some context is required......constant fatigue, nausea, dizziness etc

Bloods all fine, heart fine etc. Don’t drink or smoke.

Trying to find a balance in what I eat is the first step.

6’ 2” and 81KG so not overweight, losing weight over 6 month period although eating the same.





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[AK797]

I'm mostly carb free so no way I can go dairy free.

[Rock]

You appear to have seen a doctor and having done some testing, and found nothing sinister, he has referred you to a nutritionist.
The "constant fatigue, nausea and dizziness" would concern me a bit.
I think I would be looking for a diagnosis - probably based on further tests rather than a nutritionist referral. What about a consult with another doctor?

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Cryten

Exactly. I knew a Girl who had Celiac and avoiding gluten was medically necessary. Seeing all these trendy hipsters going gluten free because it's the latest fad makes me laugh.

thats my issue as well. My mother in law is 1/2 gluten free. Its annoying as whenever she visits we have to buy all the stuff but for her favorite foods, gluten is fine. She is convinced reducing gluten benefits her health. Like you are sort of allergic, or have a slight case of Celiac, which is nonsense. You either are or you aren't.

its rare enough of a condition that wouldn't support an entire aisle of a grocery store of food choices. So it is a fad but genuine sufferers actually benefit from the fad as they would have less food choice if it was not also trendy.

[GoingPlaces]

I agree with others that state in many cases it's a fad. Vegan, gluten free, dairy free, it's usually not necessary. Overkill.

I was feeling fatigued every afternoon for a while, then I realized I was dehydrated. A couple glasses of water in the afternoon and I felt better.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by GoingPlaces

I agree with others that state in many cases it's a fad. Vegan, gluten free, dairy free, it's usually not necessary. Overkill.

I was feeling fatigued every afternoon for a while, then I realized I was dehydrated. A couple glasses of water in the afternoon and I felt better.

dairy free i get. Goats milk is actually closer to breast milk so people dont usually have an issue with that as it has less lactose, but try to find that in the store

Cows milk is pretty hard to process for a lot of people but why the alternative is almond or soy i have no idea.

[wantonebad]

Sounds like the nutritionist is looking to eliminate certain foods in an experimental way to see how you feel. report back not only how you feel but your concerns as well. Nutritionists and doctors have to be a fit for you and you need to trust them, if not find a new one(s).

That said I think what s/he is doing is sound, if you felt better you'd know one or both were a trigger for you of some kind. Now that you know it's not you can move towards other possible answers. JMHO

[dkg1616]

I started doing the Keto diet which is heavy in fats and less than 20 carbs a day back in January. Through April I lost about 25 lbs. keep in mind probably about 5-7lbs of this is purely water weight since when you cut carbs your body holds much less water. I also included cheat meals through out this time period.

I decided to break away for a bit becaus eof vacations / the difficulty to truly maintain the diet. I gain back about 7 lbs (which was wel expected due to water weight and, well... vacations).

My goal now is to go back to the Keto diet to get back down to ~170 then up my carb intake to 50-75g per day and back down on fats and up protein 15-20%.

The Keto diet straight up works. The problem most people have is sticking to it and getting through that tough first week of carb withdrawal. Also, it is very difficult to eat out because EVEYRHING in a restaurant has sugar.

[Knappo 1307]

Originally Posted by wantonebad

Sounds like the nutritionist is looking to eliminate certain foods in an experimental way to see how you feel. report back not only how you feel but your concerns as well. Nutritionists and doctors have to be a fit for you and you need to trust them, if not find a new one(s).

That said I think what s/he is doing is sound, if you felt better you'd know one or both were a trigger for you of some kind. Now that you know it's not you can move towards other possible answers. JMHO

Marc, every time I see your avatar I ask myself why in the hell does Marc have a picture of Rick Harrison as a avatar...

[TRM]

Gluten, just a few short years ago no one even had a clue about gluten, had no idea what it was, many probably couldn't even spell it. Now everyone is on the gluten bandwagon, can't eat this or that because it has gluten in it, get over it, personally I think in the not so distant future nutritionists will say gluten is good for you. Kinda like coffee, one day drinking it will kill you, the next day it's a cure all.

[Moggo]

I think it is a case of ruling things out.

I wasn’t referred to a nutritionist, I decided to see if it would help.

Unfortunately my experience with doctors (GP’s for us UK folk) is less than stella!

If it’s more complex than a boil on your a** or something that they can prescribe antibiotics for they don’t really want to look into it. (No offence meant to any Doctors on this forum)

As long as you are ‘not going to die of it’ they move you on, forgetting about quality of life or discomfort.

YMMV.


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[wantonebad]

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

Marc, every time I see your avatar I ask myself why in the hell does Marc have a picture of Rick Harrison as a avatar...

[Pix]

Maybe its because our wheat is heavy in GMO's, Might be a reason Japan and other European countries have banned US Wheat imports.

[Wesley Crusher]

Total scam IMO

[Moggo]

Probably wasn’t the ideal forum to ask this on in hindsight.....haha

Should have asked if I could eat gluten free with my Rolex on


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[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Pix

Maybe its because our wheat is heavy in GMO's, Might be a reason Japan and other European countries have banned US Wheat imports.

There isn’t much GMO wheat in the US. It hasn’t been approved for commercial production. There was a discovery of unapproved GMO wheat in Oregon a few years ago that set off a big scare, but that is pretty far from any notion that US wheat “is heavy” in GMO.

Whatever there is has nothing to do with gluten. All wheat (and other grass) has gluten.

[SG56]

Came across this years ago. It's hilarious!!

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3895583

If medically necessary, completely understandable, but why would anyone want to avoid yummy foods just for the trend... I love gluten!

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by SG56

Came across this year's ago. It's hilarious!!

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3895583

If medically necessary, completely understandable, but why would anyone want to avoid yummy foods just for the trend... I love gluten!

That’s funny.

I went to whole foods once. They were the only store in town with dates. Other than the candida, the article captured my experience pretty well.

They had a whole aisle of “organic” sugar. Translated - partially processed sugar. Apparently, if you skip the expensive final processing step that removes the dirt, worm turds, and digested plant parts, you get this healthy brownish colored sugar that tastes funny for only ten times what fully processed sugar costs. I’ll stick with the fully processed, reagent grade sugar my mom has bought for her kitchen for 70 years.

[bdex75]

My wife had all of the things you mentioned and much worse. Ended up at an allergist. Tested her for everything under the sun. The worst ones for her were soy and yeast. If she eats them she feels pretty bad, pretty fast.

Try to avoid soy in a US diet. Almost impossible.

Then she read the Plant Paradox book.


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[wantonebad]

Originally Posted by bdex75

Then she read the Plant Paradox book.

Tell me about it!! My wife read it too, threw away all my fruit and vegetables with seeds and skin and tossed anything that could potentially have PBA. All my tuperware is gone

I wanted to make some tomato sauce and had to peel all my tomatoes and deseed them...

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by Moggo

I think it is a case of ruling things out.

I wasn’t referred to a nutritionist, I decided to see if it would help.

Unfortunately my experience with doctors (GP’s for us UK folk) is less than stella!

If it’s more complex than a boil on your a** or something that they can prescribe antibiotics for they don’t really want to look into it. (No offence meant to any Doctors on this forum)

As long as you are ‘not going to die of it’ they move you on, forgetting about quality of life or discomfort.

YMMV.


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Most doctors know that physical medicine is vastly over-rated. Even the absolute best drugs that we have (humble aspirin would be near the top) don’t actually confer benefit to the majority that take them.

As a humungously gross generalisation, with plenty of exceptions, if it doesn’t kill you, and it isn’t a surgical problem, it’ll get better by itself. If it doesn’t get better by itself, there is a reasonable chance it can’t be cured anyway.

[tyler1980]

i want to go to a restaurant and order extra gluten "on the side" just to see what they say. I like it so why cant i get more? they have leftovers clearly.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

Most doctors know that physical medicine is vastly over-rated. Even the absolute best drugs that we have (humble aspirin would be near the top) don’t actually confer benefit to the majority that take them.

As a humungously gross generalisation, with plenty of exceptions, if it doesn’t kill you, and it isn’t a surgical problem, it’ll get better by itself. If it doesn’t get better by itself, there is a reasonable chance it can’t be cured anyway.

I believe the word you’re looking for is voodoo. The witch doctor prescribed plants and minerals, the modern physician prescribes tabletized refined plants and minerals. Medicine as a profession has obviously advanced greatly (especially surgery and diagnostics), but medicines aren’t that far removed from the voodoo of old.

At the same time, medical systems have evolved into factory production processes. Driven either by profit or by efficiency, they transport the patient through standardized steps designed to maximize throughput. The doctor that is genuinely interested in you and your outcome has become exceptionally rare.