Automatic Watch Winder Settings

[seabreeze60]

Purchased a Dual Watch Winder. Here are my settings:
1. 2 Motors
2. 1300 Turns Per Day
3. Bidirectional

Do anyone have Rolex's specifications on TPD?

Thanks!

[Locust]

600 turns/day is usually plenty. 1300 is a lot

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by Locust

600 turns/day is usually plenty. 1300 is a lot

X2 600-650 per day MAX especially if you are wearing them in rotation.
1300 will wear out the mainspring barrel prematurely.

[kauffee]

According to Orbita.com, 650 is correct.

[siempreko]

It definitely does not need 1300 rotations per day... you don’t want it to be over wound, that is when harm can begin to occur.


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[seabreeze60]

Thank you!!

[TTWHTD]

Great info! Thanks a ton.

[WhiskeyKoffee]

I do 600 turns per day, bidirectional. I've never had a problem at these settings.

[Tbone16]

What kind of watch winder is that Mike? Very nice!

[WhiskeyKoffee]

Originally Posted by Tbone16

What kind of watch winder is that Mike? Very nice!

Wolf Roadster 2.7 with storage. Absolutely love it

[padi56]

Originally Posted by siempreko

It definitely does not need 1300 rotations per day... you don’t want it to be over wound, that is when harm can begin to occur.


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Agree plus the fact that no Rolex watch needs any sort of machine to wind it.As most have two perfect winders attached to there arm's called wrist what the watch was designed for.

[seabreeze60]

Originally Posted by padi56

Agree plus the fact that no Rolex watch needs any sort of machine to wind it.As most have two perfect winders attached to there arm's called wrist what the watch was designed for.

I failed at this one. I've seen your quote before and tried to live by it.

For some reason I like watching the little machine spin my Rolex while I work.

What I find is that I no longer feel guilty when I'm not wearing my Rolex. Plus it looks good in the 'display box'. Can't get scratched.

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by siempreko

It definitely does not need 1300 rotations per day... you don’t want it to be over wound, that is when harm can begin to occur.


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Harm? I thought that Rolexes couldn't be overwound.

Also, isn't leaving a watch on a winder wearing out the parts more quickly than if you let it stop while not wearing it?

[seabreeze60]

Originally Posted by No SUBctitute

Harm? I thought that Rolexes couldn't be overwound.

Also, isn't leaving a watch on a winder wearing out the parts more quickly than if you let it stop while not wearing it?

That is what I've read as well in many posts. However, on the winder setup features they give you rotation options of 650 cycles to 2000 cycles per day. When you wear your watch 12 hours, you generally move your arm 5,000 to 11,000 cycles. You can test this by wearing a Fitbit watch. I have many times. My winder recommends not to exceed 1300 cycles but suggests checking with the manufacturer. I have my winder set at 900 cycles per day. It runs for 30 seconds, then off for 10-15 minutes. The winder manufacturers have researched with watch companies and come up with settings that are deemed safe.

Good question!

[Tools]

Originally Posted by No SUBctitute

Harm? I thought that Rolexes couldn't be overwound.

Also, isn't leaving a watch on a winder wearing out the parts more quickly than if you let it stop while not wearing it?

Overwound means too much and the mainspring breaks.

A Rolex autowind will slip the mainspring in the barrel so you cannot break it, however, when the spring is slipping inside the barrel it is wearing (scraping) the inside of the barrel, eventually grinding it down.

Yes, a working watch (winder or not) is always wearing/grinding down the parts. A stopped watch is incurring zero wear.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by Tools

Overwound means too much and the mainspring breaks.

A Rolex autowind will slip the mainspring in the barrel so you cannot break it, however, when the spring is slipping inside the barrel it is wearing (scraping) the inside of the barrel, eventually grinding it down.

Yes, a working watch (winder or not) is always wearing/grinding down the parts. A stopped watch is incurring zero wear.

A stopped watch will only tell the correct time twice a day.

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by seabreeze60

That is what I've read as well in many posts. However, on the winder setup features they give you rotation options of 650 cycles to 2000 cycles per day. When you wear your watch 12 hours, you generally move your arm 5,000 to 11,000 cycles. You can test this by wearing a Fitbit watch. I have many times. My winder recommends not to exceed 1300 cycles but suggests checking with the manufacturer. I have my winder set at 900 cycles per day. It runs for 30 seconds, then off for 10-15 minutes. The winder manufacturers have researched with watch companies and come up with settings that are deemed safe.

Good question!

Thanks for the explanation!

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by Tools

Overwound means too much and the mainspring breaks.

A Rolex autowind will slip the mainspring in the barrel so you cannot break it, however, when the spring is slipping inside the barrel it is wearing (scraping) the inside of the barrel, eventually grinding it down.

Yes, a working watch (winder or not) is always wearing/grinding down the parts. A stopped watch is incurring zero wear.

Thanks for the insight!

[seabreeze60]

Testing both watches to see how long they run in the winder. Also, testing the winder while I can still take back for a refund. Uncharted territory.

Can't find any posts on the subject.

[seabreeze60]

Originally Posted by kauffee

According to Orbita.com, 650 is correct.

Great find! Orbita is filled with wonderful information on the maximum turns per watch design. 650 rotations per day is approved by Rolex for the DJ and according to Orbita. Here's the website: https://www.orbita.com/winder-support/?sw=c&fl=true.

I would have guessed a minimum of 1000 turns. 650 is the minimum setting on this winder, a Chiyoda.

Also, if you go into the back room of a Rolex authorized dealer, or any watchmaker, you'll find a number of winders that they put repaired mechanical watches on to test prior to returning back to the customers. Thanks

[Jbizios]

If the recommended TPD is 650 Bi-Directional....do you set the winder to 325 or 650?

Asked a different way, is 650 Bi-Directional => 1300 TPD?

Thanks!

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by siempreko

It definitely does not need 1300 rotations per day... you don’t want it to be over wound, that is when harm can begin to occur.


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There is no over winding in an automatic movement...

Having it on the winder all the time is unnecessary wear, there's a quickset feature for a reason.. just store them and wind when you are going to wear them.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Jbizios

If the recommended TPD is 650 Bi-Directional....do you set the winder to 325 or 650?

Asked a different way, is 650 Bi-Directional => 1300 TPD?

Thanks!

When Rolex says bi-directional they mean that it will wind in either direction, not all watches are bi-directional; 650 TPD will wind it - in any direction.

When a watchwinder setting says bi-directional, or unidirectional, it is simply a setting, not a TPD determination unless it's part of the markings, check the winder specs.

[TRM]

I don't think a winder is necessary except for maybe watches with multiple calendar functions like some Pateks that are complicated and time consuming to reset if they stop. Rolex watches are easy and quick to reset. You don't keep you car running when it's not in use, why cause the extra wear on your watch??

[seabreeze60]

Still use my winder and love it. Now I wear my Rolex almost daily for an hour or two. What I like is that my watches are always ready to go. No fooling around setting the time and date. Just put them on and go!! According to Rolex you can set the winder at 650 turns a day. The winders turns 50% clockwise and 50% counter clockwise. I prefer 990 turns a day.

Personally, when I didn't have the winder, my Rolex sat in the drawer too much. I tended to wear a quartz and felt guilty. Now I wear my automatics all the time.