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John in MA · 12 December 2008, 01:33 AM

Guys,

I work with a gentleman who's father left him his rolex watches when he passed away. Well taken care of and always serviced by Rolex.

The first is a Rolex Sub 5513 from 1969. Great condition but sadly it no longer has the matte dial or hands. This is his daily wear watch.

The 2nd one is the one that we are curious about. It was a chrono that his mother purchased for his father when he was born in 1965. This is the one that he cherishes and only wears it about twice a month. Any help on identifying it and an idea of value would be very helpful to him as he wants to have some idea of worth before getting it appraised.

Thanks for the help guys!

BTW, I think he has the original documentation for both but don't remember.

Tools · 12 December 2008, 02:54 AM

Very, very nice watch..

Probably a Cosmograph model 6238 which was the last issue before the Tachymeter bezel was moved to the outside of the crystal. (new bezel)

Although you could probably order this watch with different bracelets, it probably came with a riveted Oyster bracelet and the Jubilee was added later..

I would date it to before 1960 because the 6239 Cosmo came out in 1960 with the outside bezel, but there were probably plenty of 6238's still around. This one and later models were powered by the Valjoux 72, a Chrono movement that Rolex used for 50 years..

These things have been selling for $25,000 bucks or more, depends on the collector. Also, the price could go higher at one of the various auction houses such as Antiquorium..

To get a better handle on things, the bracelet should be taken off to find the model and serial numbers engraved on the case sides..

Bond,JamesBond · 12 December 2008, 02:55 AM

Wow, stunning! Would like to see it on an Oyster bracelet though...

mike · 12 December 2008, 03:12 AM

I'm with Larry. Looks like a 6238. I've seen asking prices around 35K.

vzmax · 12 December 2008, 03:16 AM

Very nice pre Daytona Cosmo

.

Definitely worth some $$

padi56 · 12 December 2008, 03:25 AM

Yes agree its a 1960s 6238 pity its not got the dark grey Titanium dial they are very rare and very expencive.But still a expencive watch they are normaly seen with the riveted oyster type bracelet.Average price now $25000 plus if it was a Titanium dial $35000.

Numismatist · 12 December 2008, 03:28 AM

Very sweet vintage Rolex, congrats.

Wolfgang427 · 12 December 2008, 05:14 AM

Very nice chrono, congrats on obtaining it.

The prices mentioned are a bit optimistic as vintage prices(aswell as modern) have been going down as of lately

but you still have a great chrono there

, even though the later ones with the tachy on the bezel are more in demand. My recommendation is to keep it for a while and enjoy it a bit unless you need some fast cash, but don't expect the prices mentioned or you'll be disappointed. Good luck.

John in MA · 12 December 2008, 07:51 AM

thanks gentlemen,

That helps alot. We figured it was worth around the pricing some of you mentioned but were not sure.

TheVTCGuy · 12 December 2008, 07:54 AM

It's a piece of junk... I'll give you 50 bucks for it...

charliec · 12 December 2008, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

It's a piece of junk... I'll give you 50 bucks for it...

nice !!!

Dr.B · 12 December 2008, 10:07 AM

Keep it close to you...

We love it

ippon20 · 12 December 2008, 12:55 PM

It's priceless...it was his father's. Your friend needs to keep it.

12 December 2008, 01:33 AM	#1
John in MA "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 862	Help needed from Rolex Chronograph experts Guys, I work with a gentleman who's father left him his rolex watches when he passed away. Well taken care of and always serviced by Rolex. The first is a Rolex Sub 5513 from 1969. Great condition but sadly it no longer has the matte dial or hands. This is his daily wear watch. The 2nd one is the one that we are curious about. It was a chrono that his mother purchased for his father when he was born in 1965. This is the one that he cherishes and only wears it about twice a month. Any help on identifying it and an idea of value would be very helpful to him as he wants to have some idea of worth before getting it appraised. Thanks for the help guys! BTW, I think he has the original documentation for both but don't remember.

12 December 2008, 02:54 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Very, very nice watch.. Probably a Cosmograph model 6238 which was the last issue before the Tachymeter bezel was moved to the outside of the crystal. (new bezel) Although you could probably order this watch with different bracelets, it probably came with a riveted Oyster bracelet and the Jubilee was added later.. I would date it to before 1960 because the 6239 Cosmo came out in 1960 with the outside bezel, but there were probably plenty of 6238's still around. This one and later models were powered by the Valjoux 72, a Chrono movement that Rolex used for 50 years.. These things have been selling for $25,000 bucks or more, depends on the collector. Also, the price could go higher at one of the various auction houses such as Antiquorium.. To get a better handle on things, the bracelet should be taken off to find the model and serial numbers engraved on the case sides.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

12 December 2008, 02:55 AM	#3
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12 December 2008, 03:25 AM	#6
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,063	Yes agree its a 1960s 6238 pity its not got the dark grey Titanium dial they are very rare and very expencive.But still a expencive watch they are normaly seen with the riveted oyster type bracelet.Average price now $25000 plus if it was a Titanium dial $35000. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

12 December 2008, 03:28 AM	#7
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	Very sweet vintage Rolex, congrats. __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

12 December 2008, 03:12 AM	#4
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	I'm with Larry. Looks like a 6238. I've seen asking prices around 35K.

12 December 2008, 03:16 AM	#5
vzmax "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: S Florida Posts: 221	Very nice pre Daytona Cosmo . Definitely worth some $$

12 December 2008, 05:14 AM	#8
Wolfgang427 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Wolfgang Location: New Jersey. Watch: Rolex Tudor Omega Posts: 5,592	Very nice chrono, congrats on obtaining it. The prices mentioned are a bit optimistic as vintage prices(aswell as modern) have been going down as of lately but you still have a great chrono there , even though the later ones with the tachy on the bezel are more in demand. My recommendation is to keep it for a while and enjoy it a bit unless you need some fast cash, but don't expect the prices mentioned or you'll be disappointed. Good luck.

12 December 2008, 07:51 AM	#9
John in MA "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 862	thanks gentlemen, That helps alot. We figured it was worth around the pricing some of you mentioned but were not sure.

12 December 2008, 07:54 AM	#10
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	It's a piece of junk... I'll give you 50 bucks for it...

12 December 2008, 10:07 AM	#12
Dr.B "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Fernando Location: North Carolina Watch: SS White Daytona Posts: 1,944	Keep it close to you... We love it

12 December 2008, 12:55 PM	#13
ippon20 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Dan Location: Orlando/NSB, FL Watch: 16710 (3186) Posts: 1,629	It's priceless...it was his father's. Your friend needs to keep it. __________________ Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Instagram @pivot_and_spine

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