What is up with the Yachmaster?

[glamorama]

Originally Posted by Quamby

It looks a little feminine. Also, it's neither sporty nor dressy, so it's kind of in an awkward position.

For me this is a good explanation, plus those huge numbers on bezel gets annoying and does not fit overall aesthetics. They should do something about the bezel and pull it more close to what Nautilus is.

Had one and liked the blue dial immensely but I just did not wear it as it was not doing dress or sport very well compared to other watches.

Having said that, I still lust after the yellow gold with blue dial YM.

[glamorama]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

IMO it’s the best bezel Rolex makes. Especially the matte ceramic. I can’t stand how often I have to rub fingerprints off a shiny ceramic bezel. Love the raised numbers on all of them.




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This is most beautiful version!

[CaliBear]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

do you have a NASCAR that you race at the Daytona 500?

The whole idea of stock car racing is that its the down market version or car racing. So naming a watch after what historically is the lower end type of car racing would be the equivalent of Rolex naming the Yacht-Master the dinghy-master Nothing against car racing though.

Also, come to think about it, why would anyone need a moon watch?

Lol! Correct. I do not race cars (at Daytona or anywhere) and therefore wouldn't find the chronograph or tachymeter functions very useful on a Daytona or a Speedmaster.

[CaliBear]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

do you have a NASCAR that you race at the Daytona 500?

The whole idea of stock car racing is that its the down market version or car racing. So naming a watch after what historically is the lower end type of car racing would be the equivalent of Rolex naming the Yacht-Master the dinghy-master Nothing against car racing though.

Also, come to think about it, why would anyone need a moon watch?

Originally Posted by tma888

So I presume kind Sir that since you own a GMT which was originally made for
aviation pilots, that you do own an airliner. Otherwise that would be foolish to buy a GMT without an airplane.

Cheers!

I recognize that the GMT was originally made with pilots in mind, but the GMT function is useful not only for pilots but anyone who travels, and I do travel frequently to different time zones and use the function, so I have no qualms about owing the GMT.

I will concede that if the GMT Master II was instead called the "Private-Jet Master II" I wouldn't have bought it because I don't have a private jet and would feel like a poser having it emblazoned on my watch (although I'm sure many on the forums would be interested).

As for the Yacht-master, Rolex advertises it as embodying the "spirit of the sailor" and claims the model's "distinctive visual identity" is its usefulness in doing such things as calculating the sailing time between two buoys, which just doesn't describe my life or interests. To me the the Yacht-master line has always felt like a contrived and pretentious marketing gimmick more than anything else.

If I ever feel the need to stylishly calculate buoy distances, I'll consider it, but otherwise its just not for me. And even if I was interested in obtaining a watch that was at home in the water/sea, why would I choose the YM over a Submariner, which is and always will be the classic dive/sea watch, and does pretty much the exact same thing the Yacht-master does but with a much better depth rating.

Ahoy matey!

[Brew]

Originally Posted by CaliBear

As for the Yacht-master, Rolex advertises it as embodying the "spirit of the sailor" and claims the model's "distinctive visual identity" is its usefulness in doing such things as calculating the sailing time between two buoys, which just doesn't describe my life or interests. To me the the Yacht-master line has always felt like a contrived and pretentious marketing gimmick more than anything else.

If I ever feel the need to stylishly calculate buoy distances, I'll consider it, but otherwise its just not for me. And even if I was interested in obtaining a watch that was at home in the water/sea, why would I choose the YM over a Submariner, which is and always will be the classic dive/sea watch, and does pretty much the exact same thing the Yacht-master does but with a much better depth rating.

Ahoy matey!

I guess I don't allow a manufacturer's marketing gimmicks define or limit my enjoyment of their goods.

I do not care for ceramic bezels, and the profile of the YM case is much slimmer and more comfortable on my wrist. I think the YM is a much better looking piece. The sub is a horological Camaro. Every kid has one.

[CaliBear]

Originally Posted by Brew

I guess I don't allow a manufacturer's marketing gimmicks define or limit my enjoyment of their goods.

I do not care for ceramic bezels, and the profile of the YM case is much slimmer and more comfortable on my wrist. I think the YM is a much better looking piece. The sub is a horological Camaro. Every kid has one.

I must admit that (for better or for worse) marketing does have an effect on what I think about a particular watch. I'd say the sub is maybe closer to a BMW 3 series (entry level luxury tool with a storied history), but I digress.

Getting back to the YM, aesthetically speaking, I do generally like the look of the YM (but not the YMII) although I think the design in some ways is a bit confused as to what the watch is trying to be. It is beautiful no doubt but it sort of seems like it is trying to hard be a mix of a little bit of everything to try and please everyone. I'd rather the watch be a little less ambiguous and either go more aggressive or more luxury -- not just straddle the line between the two. Of the non-ceramic models, I would personally prefer an Explorer, although that one might be the horological Jeep Wrangler.

[Quailhunter]

I had a blank check from my wife to buy a watch for a major birthday. I chose the blue dial Yacht Master. I have a DayDate, DateJust, and a GMT II and the Yacht Master gets worn the most. It’s striking in appearance and wears easily. I don’t flip watches so resale value is a moot issue.

[oroloi]

Some comments here are funny

Why buy a YM if you don’t own a Yacht ?????

Ok then..........

Why buy a Submainer if you don’t dive ?

Why buy a Daytona if you don’t race a car ?

Why buy a datejust if your phone has the time AND date ?

Why buy a DD ? Can’t you remember what day it is ?

Why buy a Skydweller If you don’t fly ?

Why buy a GMT If you don’t travel or fly a plane ?

Why buy a Cellini ? It’s less than 300mt WR......how sad, it’s going to drown when it rains

[VicLeChic]

For those who don't know, "yachtmaster" is a certificate allowing you to drive A yacht, not YOUR yacht, no need to own the thing. It's like a driving licence for yachts. I know people with a driving licence who don't own a car, that doesn't make them stupid, some rent cars on holiday for example.

Since this was supposed to be a toolwatch for regattas, I would have preferred a more adventurous name like "Yacht-Racer", but it is what it is.

(picture borrowed from the web)

[doctoryellow]

Originally Posted by RolexPD

It's a Submariner Light that costs $4000 more than a Submariner Date.

I think there's a pretty simple reason for the Yachtmaster's lack of popularity - it's overpriced.

It’s a dressed up Submariner priced appropriately for its platinum bezel

[oroloi]

Originally Posted by RolexPD

It's a Submariner Light that costs $4000 more than a Submariner Date.

I think there's a pretty simple reason for the Yachtmaster's lack of popularity - it's overpriced.

If the Submariner Date cost the same as a Yachtmaster........ The Submariner Date would be OVERPRICED because it has no PM.

Rolex charges extra for PM as i'm sure you would know that, the Yachtmaster is not OVERPRICED its priced right. The Submariner Date is also priced right.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by RolexPD

It's a Submariner Light that costs $4000 more than a Submariner Date.

I think there's a pretty simple reason for the Yachtmaster's lack of popularity - it's overpriced.

i always think its funny that WR is the reason one is a "light" version.

YM... PM bezel, same WR as the original Sub which absolutely was a dive watch and more than the 50 fathoms which was probably the first purpose built dive watch as 50 fathoms is actually less than 100M.

Sub... "extra" WR no one even needs

People buy watches based on looks. Nothing wrong with that and if you prefer the look of the sub, great thats ok. Functionally though both are capable of the same thing pretty much anyone will actually use them for.

A TT sub costs more than a SS sub and its pretty clear why. A YM absolutely should cost more than a SS sub.

[oroloi]

Originally Posted by VicLeChic

For those who don't know, "yachtmaster" is a certificate allowing you to drive A yacht, not YOUR yacht, no need to own the thing. It's like a driving licence for yachts. I know people with a driving licence who don't own a car, that doesn't make them stupid, some rent cars on holiday for example.

Since this was supposed to be a toolwatch for regattas, I would have preferred a more adventurous name like "Yacht-Racer", but it is what it is.

(picture borrowed from the web)

Thanks for this information. I certainly didn't buy my Yachtmaster to sail a yacht or because I own a yacht. I appreciate your valuable comment

At least now I know i'm licensed.......for when I take my kayak out

[oroloi]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

i always think its funny that WR is the reason one is a "light" version.

YM... PM bezel, same WR as the original Sub which absolutely was a dive watch and more than the 50 fathoms which was probably the first purpose built dive watch as 50 fathoms is actually less than 100M.

Sub... "extra" WR no one even needs

People buy watches based on looks. Nothing wrong with that and if you prefer the look of the sub, great thats ok. Functionally though both are capable of the same thing pretty much anyone will actually use them for.

Correct

I don't think Rolex de-tuned the Yachtmaster by putting a lower grade gasket or downgrading the trip-lock, or screwing the case back in but not all the way, just to give it a 100mt WR Rating. It possibly has a slightly thinner sapphire but thats about it.

Its called marketing......If I was a deep sea diver I would definitely use a Submariner/sea-dweller/deepsea watch. For anything other than that I'm confident the Yachtmaster would survive most other activities

[Quailhunter]

I have tried on Submariner watches several times and walked away as they just don’t fit my wrist comfortably. My DayDate and DateJust fit well. My GMT BLNR is comfortable. The blue dial Yacht Master fits extremely well. There is something about the case/bracelet that melds with my wrist.

[FirstF80InSpace]

Originally Posted by CaliBear

I must admit that (for better or for worse) marketing does have an effect on what I think about a particular watch. I'd say the sub is maybe closer to a BMW 3 series (entry level luxury tool with a storied history), but I digress.

If the Sub is a 3 Series, then the YM is an M3. Boom!

[Juclaq]

I have to say that it is a bezel

[DP63]

I lusted after a YM for a very long time, started out with not being able to see a new one in the flesh being my first issue, then I moved on to the pre-loved market and found the model I liked, 11662, while I thought about it over a month out of country the pre-loved prices hiked from around £5k to £6k and above in some cases, and even today I can see a 4 yr old watch at £7,500 on line ..... for that reason, I took a very big step back as I didnt lust after it enough to justify the hike that came as a result of the SS shortage ... which probably tells me it may not have lasted very long in my collection and was possibly a fleeting romance as opposed to a long term relationship watch after all.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by Quamby

It looks a little feminine. Also, it's neither sporty nor dressy, so it's kind of in an awkward position.

Not feminine at all, some people avoid it as the bezel is supposely a scratch magnet and very hard to be restored to factory finish


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[superdog]

Originally Posted by CaliBear

Simple ... most people don't have a yacht that needs mastering. Personally, I'd feel like a tool if I owned a yachtmaster minus the yacht.

This is a riot.

Especially because I pretty much hate being on any type of boat.

But I love my YM.

[Mystro]

What’s wrong with liking a particular model because you can?? No justification needed.

You don’t see women debating which cut of diamond is better and have to give data to back up their opinion.......

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Mystro

What’s wrong with liking a particular model because you can?? No justification needed.

You don’t see women debating which cut of diamond is better and have to give data to back up their opinion.......:thinking:

clearly you have never been to an engagement party

[TTWHTD]

I love mine but I must admit that I don't wear it that often. I wear my sub daily. Gets great compliments when I do wear it though! It was my first so I doubt I would sell it.

[williamstone]

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

I wouldn't get too concerned whether others "dig it" or not. It's your opinion that really counts.

Well said

[superdog]

Originally Posted by TTWHTD

I love mine but I must admit that I don't wear it that often. I wear my sub daily. Gets great compliments when I do wear it though! It was my first so I doubt I would sell it.

that looks so good, it makes me want to get one in blue.

[Auto16610]

Originally Posted by Mystro

What’s wrong with liking a particular model because you can?? No justification needed.

You don’t see women debating which cut of diamond is better and have to give data to back up their opinion.......

I've never thought about it like that, but that's so true! Buy and wear what YOU like!

[joli160]

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Not feminine at all, some people avoid it as the bezel is supposely a scratch magnet and very hard to be restored to factory finish


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Actually there are quite a lot of independents as well as any RSC who can restore it if needed and it does not even cost that much.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by joli160

Actually there are quite a lot of independents as well as any RSC who can restore it if needed and it does not even cost that much.

Bas did a thread on one... I’m sending to him


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[MrWeha]

Have to agree with what others already said: it's just too feminine.

The 116655 is a winner though.

[Romeomikehotel]

My first was a YM, I was a fool and switched it for a two-tone GMT.

Came back to my senses and don’t think I’ll ever get rid of it.




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