Incoming: SKX's Bezel Inserts

[Lol-x]

Brand new factory sealed in the packet from Seiko:
2 x SKX007 and 3 x SKX009 Aluminium bezel inserts.
Total cost about $60 including international shipping.

Try to by 1 Rolex aluminium insert for $60 let alone 5...........

Anyway, I've got some patina work to do on these.

No they are not for sale.

[MP5]

Any tips on how to age?

[Old Expat Beast]

Hours of fun!

[Andad]

Nice range of diver bezels.

Soaking overnight in Japanese Whiskey has been known to age things.

[Lol-x]

This thread is very instructive on the patina process:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=622779

[yannis]

Nice one Steve! Mine is also in need of a BLRO () insert.

[mailman]

Where’d you order the inserts m8?

[uncleluck]

Might be worth noting that Seiko don’t sell inserts separately (only on the bezel) and the packets you have there are AM even though they say genuine. Not that it matters too much if you’re going to be bleaching them.

[Lol-x]

Originally Posted by uncleluck

Might be worth noting that Seiko don’t sell inserts separately (only on the bezel) and the packets you have there are AM even though they say genuine. Not that it matters too much if you’re going to be bleaching them.

This is a surprise, but I guess I should have known better.

So do you think it is just the packaging that is aftermarket or would that apply to the bezel inserts too?

I bought it of eBay but it shipped from the Phillipines.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SEIKO-PE...72.m2749.l2649
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SEIKO-BL...72.m2749.l2649

Now I'm not happy Jan!

[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

This is a surprise, but I guess I should have known better.

So do you think it is just the packaging that is aftermarket or would that apply to the bezel inserts too?

I bought it of eBay but it shipped from the Phillipines.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SEIKO-PE...72.m2749.l2649
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SEIKO-BL...72.m2749.l2649

Now I'm not happy Jan!

Those are fake aftermarket version. Not that big of a deal because they still look og.

[SearChart]

Curious how it will turn out

[uncleluck]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

This is a surprise, but I guess I should have known better.

So do you think it is just the packaging that is aftermarket or would that apply to the bezel inserts too?

I bought it of eBay but it shipped from the Phillipines.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SEIKO-PE...72.m2749.l2649
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SEIKO-BL...72.m2749.l2649

Now I'm not happy Jan!

As mentioned above, they’re all fake (packaging, inserts). Sorry to be the bearer of the news. Seiko inserts come only as one with the bezel and would be circa $70 each for an skx.

But the only saving grace is you wouldn’t be bleaching stuff at the cost of OE maybe so they have their place in the modding world. I just don’t like the fact they sell them in ‘genuine packaging’ (which is nothing like Seiko use anyway)

There’s some sellers now selling Feiko parts in replica packaging now! Have to be careful if you’re wanting the real deal.

[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by uncleluck

There’s some sellers now selling Feiko parts in replica packaging now! Have to be careful if you’re wanting the real deal.

This has been going on for over 10 years on ebay. Unfortunately the only way to tell is what country the seller is from it seems. If it says India or Philippines I know what I am getting. There are also a few sellers in the UK selling replica parts.

[uncleluck]

Originally Posted by toxicavenger

This has been going on for over 10 years on ebay. Unfortunately the only way to tell is what country the seller is from it seems. If it says India or Philippines I know what I am getting. There are also a few sellers in the UK selling replica parts.

I was referring to a new type of fake packaging, one that’s made almost identical to the genuine paper Seiko packets parts. There’s someone selling Pogue crystals and various bezels all in the paper Seiko packets, all fake.

The packets like this are pretty obvious but there’s one guy selling stuff and at first glance you’d think it was NOS. Way more expensive than the normal fake parts too. He’s even selling parts house mineral replicas of the 330w18gn00 in paper ‘Seiko packets’.

[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by uncleluck

I was referring to a new type of fake packaging, one that’s made almost identical to the genuine paper Seiko packets parts. There’s someone selling Pogue crystals and various bezels all in the paper Seiko packets, all fake.

The packets like this are pretty obvious but there’s one guy selling stuff and at first glance you’d think it was NOS. Way more expensive than the normal fake parts too. He’s even selling parts house mineral replicas of the 330w18gn00 in paper ‘Seiko packets’.

The ones I bought almost 10 years ago had the same Seiko style labeled fake packaging.

[uncleluck]

Originally Posted by toxicavenger

The ones I bought almost 10 years ago had the same Seiko style labeled fake packaging.

Full paper envelop style, fake Seiko packets 10 years ago? Like these which are fake packets...




This type hasn’t been around anywhere near that long. The crappy ones, yes but replica packets I’ve only started seeing relatively recent.

[Lol-x]

I can't believe I got stooged buying fake parts
I'm minded to make an ebay complaint and seek a refund.

[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by uncleluck

Full paper envelop style, fake Seiko packets 10 years ago? Like these which are fake packets...




This type hasn’t been around anywhere near that long. The crappy ones, yes but replica packets I’ve only started seeing relatively recent.

Okay then I am wrong. I am telling you what I have bought. And yes it was the factory Seiko style packaging.

[Frogman]

Originally Posted by toxicavenger

The ones I bought almost 10 years ago had the same Seiko style labeled fake packaging.

As far as i know you are correct, this fake paper packaging has been around for over a decade.

[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by Frogman

As far as i know you are correct, this fake paper packaging has been around for over a decade.

You can't agree with me, I am wrong.

[uncleluck]

Originally Posted by toxicavenger

You can't agree with me, I am wrong.

I gave some info based on my observations over the years that’s all (which is all you’ve done), I’ve seen all sorts of them over the years but never this exact packet 10 years ago (not even 3 years ago). Other far more easier to ID paper feiko packets, yes plenty.

Crazy, doesn't make much sense them going to that level of effort 10 years ago seeing as the 6139-6002 crystals were easy to come by back then.

It’s only relatively recently genuine Pogue crystals have reached high prices (and I struggle to get them for people’s services) and over this last year I’ve seen the above appear with a price tag way above normal feiko and sold as genuine.

But, hey if you had them exact packets 10 years ago then I stand corrected.

[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by uncleluck

I gave some info based on my observations over the years that’s all (which is all you’ve done), I’ve seen all sorts of them over the years but never this exact packet 10 years ago (not even 3 years ago). Other far more easier to ID paper feiko packets, yes plenty.

Crazy, doesn't make much sense them going to that level of effort 10 years ago seeing as the 6139-6002 crystals were easy to come by back then.

It’s only relatively recently genuine Pogue crystals have reached high prices (and I struggle to get them for people’s services) and over this last year I’ve seen the above appear with a price tag way above normal feiko and sold as genuine.

But, hey if you had them exact packets 10 years ago then I stand corrected.

All good bro. Just giving you a hard time.

I buy my crystals from Spencer at Klein Vintage Watches.