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Old 20 November 2018, 11:41 PM   #31
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If they fix the inexplicable fat lugs the perceived 'correction' many would welcome will precipitate a maxicase bloodbath, where there is a mass sell off and no one will want the one with the fat lugs, the 'on-the-fencers' who like the bracelet will have all the assurance they need that the rest of the watch is in fact not very appealing and it will never be spoken of again. Like the Day Date II.
I’ve come to prefer the fatter lugs. I doubt I’m alone.
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Old 20 November 2018, 11:44 PM   #32
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I'll wait for the "A New SubC for 2020?" thread.
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Old 21 November 2018, 12:01 AM   #33
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If they fix the inexplicable fat lugs the perceived 'correction' many would welcome will precipitate a maxicase bloodbath, where there is a mass sell off and no one will want the one with the fat lugs, the 'on-the-fencers' who like the bracelet will have all the assurance they need that the rest of the watch is in fact not very appealing and it will never be spoken of again. Like the Day Date II.
Hmm...I don't know. I have a hard time seeing anything in the Rolex line undergoing a mass sell-off or a bloodbath. IMO, of course. It certainly hasn't happened with the so-called 'sports' models that have been discontinued to this point. Or the DD2.
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Old 21 November 2018, 12:26 AM   #34
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Hmm...I don't know. I have a hard time seeing anything in the Rolex line undergoing a mass sell-off or a bloodbath. IMO, of course. It certainly hasn't happened with the so-called 'sports' models that have been discontinued to this point. Or the DD2.
And I agree. There are those who like the larger case, and those who don’t. Like you, doubt that the used market will be flooded with the maxi case if Rolex revises the case design.
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Old 21 November 2018, 01:05 AM   #35
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I'll wait for the "A New SubC for 2020?" thread.


That will be the day after the Basel 2019 thread
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Old 21 November 2018, 01:13 AM   #36
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Don’t you think we already know what the new Sub will look like with the BLRO, CHNR, etc...? The case needs slightly changed to fit the new movement but nothing drastic. History has shown this is how Rolex rolls products into market.
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Old 21 November 2018, 01:16 AM   #37
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If they fix the inexplicable fat lugs the perceived 'correction' many would welcome will precipitate a maxicase bloodbath, where there is a mass sell off and no one will want the one with the fat lugs, the 'on-the-fencers' who like the bracelet will have all the assurance they need that the rest of the watch is in fact not very appealing and it will never be spoken of again. Like the Day Date II.
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Daydate II is the best daydate by far mate. Just need a real mans wrist to pull it off
Not sure what you guys are talking about please enlighten me.

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In my opinion, if you like something get it. These are mass produced luxury goods. Watches, just like cars there will always be a new model with all the bells and whistles come out unless the model is completely discontinued (very unlikely in a Sub) or the brand dies out (even more unlikely). Honestly an extended power reserve doesn’t do much for me. If you’re always wearing it then there should be no need for a 70 hr reserve, and if you rotate often with 4+ watch collection a 70 hr reserve will be flat anyway by the time I get back to the watch. My DaytonaC is always in need of a full wind when I get back to wearing it.
True. I'd like a 70hr power reserve.
I also agree with everyone else that the new model would be in PM.
I would like to point out that short supply though... Just Rolex is selling far too many or they are changing/making a new sub.
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Old 21 November 2018, 01:31 AM   #38
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Don’t you think we already know what the new Sub will look like with the BLRO, CHNR, etc...? The case needs slightly changed to fit the new movement but nothing drastic. History has shown this is how Rolex rolls products into market.
X2. My thinking as well. I’d buy the current generation right now, if I was in the market for a Sub.
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Old 21 November 2018, 01:58 AM   #39
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I think the GMTs are more likely to continue with the new mvmnts, the sales of watches this past year shouldn't make much difference to Rolex whom I 'm sure plan these things far more in advance and without reference to current trends.
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Old 21 November 2018, 02:01 AM   #40
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Hmm...I don't know. I have a hard time seeing anything in the Rolex line undergoing a mass sell-off or a bloodbath. IMO, of course. It certainly hasn't happened with the so-called 'sports' models that have been discontinued to this point. Or the DD2.
Yes, I was affeared that my DD2 would fall in value upon its 40 usurpification, but when I came to sell it a few months later for a Nautilus I got a very nice price from a dealer.
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Old 21 November 2018, 02:11 AM   #41
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It only make a difference if only interested, else i don't think its going to matter.
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Old 21 November 2018, 03:15 AM   #42
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they should release nothing new for the next couple years

we have enough
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Old 21 November 2018, 03:15 AM   #43
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Old 21 November 2018, 03:26 AM   #44
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If they fix the inexplicable fat lugs the perceived 'correction' many would welcome will precipitate a maxicase bloodbath, where there is a mass sell off and no one will want the one with the fat lugs, the 'on-the-fencers' who like the bracelet will have all the assurance they need that the rest of the watch is in fact not very appealing and it will never be spoken of again. Like the Day Date II.
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Hmm...I don't know. I have a hard time seeing anything in the Rolex line undergoing a mass sell-off or a bloodbath. IMO, of course. It certainly hasn't happened with the so-called 'sports' models that have been discontinued to this point. Or the DD2.
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Don’t you think we already know what the new Sub will look like with the BLRO, CHNR, etc...? The case needs slightly changed to fit the new movement but nothing drastic. History has shown this is how Rolex rolls products into market.
I’m going to have to say, that there are just as many here on TRF and probably even more out there in the non WIS world, who prefer the “inexplicable” fat lug look or that don’t differentiate because of it.

Also to Mystro’s point above, the changes at Rolex tend to be very subtle, more like a “creeping nuance” (to borrow a term from Tim Mosso). The difference between the redesigned case of the BLRO vs the BLNR is barely noticeable, at least to an old hack like me.
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Old 21 November 2018, 03:35 AM   #45
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I’ve come to prefer the fatter lugs. I doubt I’m alone.
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Old 21 November 2018, 03:37 AM   #46
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My 116610LN's movement is averaging -0.60s/day. I have Quartz watches less accurate. It's hard to imagine the new movement being better, but certainly possible.

Don't know when the next Sub will come, but I'm 100% sure the dial will be ceramic (like in the recent Omegas).
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Old 21 November 2018, 04:11 AM   #47
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Old 21 November 2018, 04:53 AM   #48
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The one prediction I can make with absolute certainty is that if/when they do announce a new sub,

1) The waiting list will be 5+ years
2) Your friends (aka dealers) will gobble up 95% of the supply and drive secondary market prices to new all-time highs


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Old 21 November 2018, 04:55 AM   #49
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I don't think any changes the Submariner undergoes will be substantial. I can reasonably agree there will eventually be a movement upgrade combined with an almost imperceptible case change. I don't think the case will go back to slimmer lugs and if they do, it will barely be noticeable.
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Old 21 November 2018, 05:01 AM   #50
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No one knows , last year, when shortage started at this time, same talk flooded the forums, and no new sub...
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Old 21 November 2018, 05:18 AM   #51
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A NEW SubC 2019?

This has been talked about when it comes to predictions for 2019.

Now it's been said also that the low supply of subs could be due to a new model about to be released.
What would this do to the value of the 116610?

It angers people when I ask about future value but I'm about to buy a Near New SubC from a seller at MSRP and just thought I'd think about the possible future.
Who knows? Just buy the watch and enjoy it. If a new Sub is released I doubt you’d be able to get it anytime soon anyway. A near new Sub at MSRP sounds like a good deal.
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Old 21 November 2018, 05:58 AM   #52
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Low supply indicator of new model?

rolex must be working on a whole new line up then... lo

On the current sub - I honestly think its such a nice watch even if a newer model came out it would do nothing to values as the price of new models and availability eill all play a factor.

I bought my sub for £5300 in 2015 - best money i ever spent
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Old 21 November 2018, 11:10 AM   #53
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