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mck22 · 4 January 2009, 04:19 PM

Ok I just bought my first Submariner about three or four weeks ago and I love it. I found a friend of a friend who is wanting to sell his Explorer to me. He sent me some pics which I will add on here so you experts can take a look at it. He also send me a pic of the top of the paperwork with the serial number and style number. To a new person like me it looks like the real deal, but as we all know buying from a individual and being new to this that can be very dangerous. I am wanting to be cautious. Can someone help me to see if this is a real watch, and explain to me what I can do with the paperwork? Any help or thoughts would be great, I am trying to learn and understand all of these things. Also what is a fair price for something like this? I looked and it seemed to be a mid 01? Is that part correct. Well post what you want to share with me. Thanks guys you are all great.

The paperwork says it is a K267XXX
Style r16570a30b7879

Katie Belpedio · 4 January 2009, 04:22 PM

unfortunately that is not a GMT, but an explorer II......... is he representing it as such?

also the watch doesnt have solid end links (SEL) so that may give us an idea of its age along with it being a K series- i am uncertain when the explorer II started with the SEL or when the K series ran....... others on here will know......

all things considered i would say that you should pay no more than 3 to 3.5K US $$ for this watch... does that seem in line with what he is asking?

mck22 · 4 January 2009, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katie Belpedio

unfortunately that is not a GMT, but an explorer II......... is he representing it as such?

also the watch doesnt have solid end links (SEL) so that may give us an idea of its age - i am uncertain when the explorer II started with the SEL....... others on here will know.

Thank you, I changed that I had GMT on my mind!!!!

jas55 · 4 January 2009, 05:14 PM

The Explorer watch is a very nice model to have. It is smaller than your Submariner, and more discrete ('It doesn't scream Rolex'). The Explorer models don't seem to hold their value quite as much as the Subs and GMT's do, so make sure you are getting a good price. There are always plenty of 2nd hand Explorer's for sale on EBAY that you can choose from.

Ask if there is a store receipt with the watch, and if your friend is the original owner (Did he purchase the watch brand new himself).

You could always ask to have the watch looked at by an AD if you are still unsure. They should be able to tell you if it's geniune or not.

Good Luck

xjeeunitx · 4 January 2009, 07:52 PM

I have the same watch but mine is a Z serial. You can find recent serial models for very good price online. I just saw one for sale with D serial running at $3,600.

mck22 · 5 January 2009, 02:54 AM

Thanks for the info and tips, I really appreciate it. I really want a GMT so I guess if this is a watch that does not scream Rolex, I better wait and get my hands on a GMT.

SSD · 5 January 2009, 03:41 AM

An Explorer is not a "GMT". However, it has a GMT movement for telling time in another time zone. The fourth (red) hand works off the bezel because it makes one revolution in 24 hours. The difference is that Explorer's bezel does not rotate as the GMT's does! The idea in this case is to be able to tell time in a cave or other environment where there is no sunlight to say if it's day or night, hence its name. A GMT is for telling time in different time zones, and it was originally a pilot's watch designed at the behest of Pan-Am and issued to its aircrews. Excellent for flying long-distance, critically important for navigational accuracy back in the day.

Its difficult to see if a watch is genuine using only photos. A good seller will have no problem with you verifying authenticity with a watchmaker or AD. This one looks good...but someone familiar is better.

3-3.5K is probably a good price, depending if the piece needs service (count on 400-500 if it does, and that should happen every 4-5 years). It looks like a nice example of a popular Rolex with dedicated fans. Its just not as popular as some others, but a great one nonetheless!

Personally, I like it, and if you could verify a good history of care, I'd go for it!

allmatch · 5 January 2009, 05:03 AM

It looks like a year 2001 genuine and very beautiful Explorer II to me.

On the fake Explorers the first thing to notice is the bezel. It's just ain't perfect.

A price idea here in Denmark would be 23000 DKR - equivalent to
$4300 evaluated from your picture

4 January 2009, 04:19 PM	#1
mck22 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Brent Location: St Louis Watch: Rolex Sub Date Posts: 1,516	Questions about Explorer Ok I just bought my first Submariner about three or four weeks ago and I love it. I found a friend of a friend who is wanting to sell his Explorer to me. He sent me some pics which I will add on here so you experts can take a look at it. He also send me a pic of the top of the paperwork with the serial number and style number. To a new person like me it looks like the real deal, but as we all know buying from a individual and being new to this that can be very dangerous. I am wanting to be cautious. Can someone help me to see if this is a real watch, and explain to me what I can do with the paperwork? Any help or thoughts would be great, I am trying to learn and understand all of these things. Also what is a fair price for something like this? I looked and it seemed to be a mid 01? Is that part correct. Well post what you want to share with me. Thanks guys you are all great. The paperwork says it is a K267XXX Style r16570a30b7879

4 January 2009, 05:14 PM	#4
jas55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Lach Location: Western Australia Posts: 759	The Explorer watch is a very nice model to have. It is smaller than your Submariner, and more discrete ('It doesn't scream Rolex'). The Explorer models don't seem to hold their value quite as much as the Subs and GMT's do, so make sure you are getting a good price. There are always plenty of 2nd hand Explorer's for sale on EBAY that you can choose from. Ask if there is a store receipt with the watch, and if your friend is the original owner (Did he purchase the watch brand new himself). You could always ask to have the watch looked at by an AD if you are still unsure. They should be able to tell you if it's geniune or not. Good Luck __________________ Explorer 2-Polar Omega Seamaster Quartz

4 January 2009, 07:52 PM	#5
xjeeunitx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,533	I have the same watch but mine is a Z serial. You can find recent serial models for very good price online. I just saw one for sale with D serial running at $3,600. __________________ *2 FACTOR AUTHENTICATION ENABLED.*

5 January 2009, 03:41 AM	#7
SSD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jamie Location: Georgia Watch: Stainless Sub Date Posts: 3,023	An Explorer is not a "GMT". However, it has a GMT movement for telling time in another time zone. The fourth (red) hand works off the bezel because it makes one revolution in 24 hours. The difference is that Explorer's bezel does not rotate as the GMT's does! The idea in this case is to be able to tell time in a cave or other environment where there is no sunlight to say if it's day or night, hence its name. A GMT is for telling time in different time zones, and it was originally a pilot's watch designed at the behest of Pan-Am and issued to its aircrews. Excellent for flying long-distance, critically important for navigational accuracy back in the day. Its difficult to see if a watch is genuine using only photos. A good seller will have no problem with you verifying authenticity with a watchmaker or AD. This one looks good...but someone familiar is better. 3-3.5K is probably a good price, depending if the piece needs service (count on 400-500 if it does, and that should happen every 4-5 years). It looks like a nice example of a popular Rolex with dedicated fans. Its just not as popular as some others, but a great one nonetheless! Personally, I like it, and if you could verify a good history of care, I'd go for it! __________________ SUBMARINER OWNERS' CLUB ESTABLISHED 1953 TRF Member # 5464

5 January 2009, 05:03 AM	#8
allmatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Morten Location: Denmark Posts: 414	It looks like a year 2001 genuine and very beautiful Explorer II to me. On the fake Explorers the first thing to notice is the bezel. It's just ain't perfect. A price idea here in Denmark would be 23000 DKR - equivalent to $4300 evaluated from your picture __________________ Best regards, Morten

4 January 2009, 04:22 PM	#2
Katie Belpedio Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dublin, Ohio Posts: 21	unfortunately that is not a GMT, but an explorer II......... is he representing it as such? also the watch doesnt have solid end links (SEL) so that may give us an idea of its age along with it being a K series- i am uncertain when the explorer II started with the SEL or when the K series ran....... others on here will know...... all things considered i would say that you should pay no more than 3 to 3.5K US $$ for this watch... does that seem in line with what he is asking?

5 January 2009, 02:54 AM	#6
mck22 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Brent Location: St Louis Watch: Rolex Sub Date Posts: 1,516	Thanks for the info and tips, I really appreciate it. I really want a GMT so I guess if this is a watch that does not scream Rolex, I better wait and get my hands on a GMT.

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