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24 July 2019, 03:15 AM | #1 |
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eBay Submariner - does this look legit?
Can anyone offer an opinion on the authenticity of the Sub offered in this eBay auction?
Seller has only a small amount of feedback and interestingly sold a similar Sub within the last 6 months: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-ROLEX...53.m1431.l2649 Thank you! |
24 July 2019, 03:26 AM | #2 |
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Seems most of the feedback is buyer side and also the pictures are shit.
Golden rule: buy the seller |
24 July 2019, 03:31 AM | #3 |
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id give it a miss,
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24 July 2019, 04:16 AM | #4 |
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The watch is fake. I’m betting that fake invoice and warranty card are printed with details from Zegg & Cerlati in Monaco. Seen a few of those doing the rounds recently. I recently posted a 116500 with the same set up.
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24 July 2019, 05:01 AM | #5 |
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If you are smart you will forget about this one.
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24 July 2019, 06:09 AM | #6 |
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Why risk it?
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24 July 2019, 06:13 AM | #7 |
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Fake questions are YES or NO. Details are not supplied. Otherwise fakers use the details to improve their fakes. Please do not buy expensive watches off eBay unless you are an expert.
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24 July 2019, 06:20 AM | #10 | |
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You wouldn't be able to tell looking at a photo. |
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24 July 2019, 06:27 AM | #11 |
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24 July 2019, 06:57 AM | #13 |
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I’ve messaged you.
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24 July 2019, 07:10 AM | #14 |
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24 July 2019, 11:02 AM | #16 | |
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Replica watchmakers of limited skills certainly gain an advantage from reading details like you’re requesting. The expert fakirs don’t need the help. So the reason we don’t discuss the many different “tells” is to help reduce the growth of pedestrian fakirs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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24 July 2019, 10:51 PM | #17 |
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Thanks everyone for your comments.
I will most definitely be passing on this one! |
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eBay Submariner - does this look legit?
但他们可以使用谷歌翻译
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25 July 2019, 04:20 AM | #20 |
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25 July 2019, 07:36 AM | #21 |
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False, a WIS can tell. There are expensive process that go into making Rolex watches that do appear on fakes. For example the PVD platinum finish in the bezel inserts will never be faked... white paint does not look the same
The watch above is fake. |
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25 July 2019, 10:40 AM | #23 |
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There are aftermarket inserts on ebay that are almost the same.
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25 July 2019, 10:45 AM | #24 |
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if you guys think that the counterfeiters read this forum to improve their fakes based on our observations and discussion of "tells" that is completely incorrect. They must get waay better and more accurate reference from the high resolution 10 X magnification pics in "look at my new watch" threads where we post pics showing intricate details of all our watches. Its basically a blue print they can upload into any CAD program and get dimensions etc...
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25 July 2019, 12:26 PM | #25 |
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I personally would never buy a home high end watch off eBay ..l
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The point is to make life harder for John Doe who’s recently bought a fake $700 116610LN online with a fake warranty card and genuine box, manuals, tag etc and is now going to stick it up on eBay. If we were to point out that, for example, the crown height is in the wrong position, he’d just not photograph the watch from the crown side. If we were to point out the inner clasp engravings were wrong, he’d just not photograph the inner clasp. If we were to point out the coronet on the dial is wrong, he’d set the hands over it when taking photos. I had the same discussion with Adam/Gladiator a while back and made the same points as you. It was he who pointed out the above, something which I didn’t think of at the time. |
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The pictures are such crap it’s hard to tell anything. The rehaut close up is a give away
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26 July 2019, 06:13 AM | #28 |
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This watch has been re-listed - with a €1 starting price! - and has already been bid up to nearly €7000
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