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TommyBahama18 · 28 July 2019, 06:54 AM

Just gauging opinions here as we all know about the current market for SS Rolex sports models. The hype is now spreading to the DJ41 and with that being said do you think it’ll eventually spread to Tudor SS models (ie: black bay)?

pepsiretail · 28 July 2019, 06:57 AM

Tudor P-01 will skyrocket!

kieselguhr · 28 July 2019, 07:00 AM

Well, the GMT and the 58 are kinda hard to come by in certain regions. All 3 S&G chronos I have seen have sold locally within a week and I have not seen them since.

AOW

GsurgBM · 28 July 2019, 07:00 AM

Black Bay is a great watch. Try it out.

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watchwatcher · 28 July 2019, 07:01 AM

I don't think it will eventually spread...I think it already has.

huncho · 28 July 2019, 07:05 AM

hard to say. i don't think most non wis even know what tudor is. they just want a rolex because its a rolex

tie219 · 28 July 2019, 07:06 AM

I don't think Tudor has the same brand recognition that Rolex does so no, I don't see it spreading

TommyBahama18 · 28 July 2019, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tie219

I don't think Tudor has the same brand recognition that Rolex does so no, I don't see it spreading

Definitely agree with what you and huncho mentioned. Just interesting seeing Tudor having spokespeople like David Beckham and lady Gaga to appeal to younger demographics. Also as more and more people get pushed out of the Rolex buyers market I can only imagine Tudor expanding even more. That being said my AD said Tudor “had big things in the works” which I took with a grain of salt. I can only hope for that red Tudor sub that was brought up prior to Basel.

slus · 28 July 2019, 07:17 AM

I think the market will increase a bit for some popular models among watch enthusiasts, BB58s and GMTs are already there.

Mostly I think Rolex, through skyrocketing demand and prices for their own watches, has perfectly positioned Tudor to regain it's place as the working man's Rolex. I googled for Hans Wilsdorf's original quote about founding Tudor, and it actually appears right on the Tudor web site now, I don't remember seeing that a few years ago after the relaunch to the US market. Brand recognition will increase but obviously never match Rolex.

“For some years now, I have been considering the idea of making a watch that our agents could sell at a more modest price than our Rolex watches, and yet one that would attain the standard of dependability for which Rolex is famous. I decided to form a separate company, with the object of making and marketing this new watch. It is called the TUDOR watch company.” - H. Wilsdorf

Art 1 · 28 July 2019, 07:37 AM

Tudor makes a very nice watch. I enjoy mine. Very accurate. Strong bracelet. I’m sure to get another.

Subconscious · 28 July 2019, 08:25 AM

I am waiting for the BB58 to get date function or maybe even gmt!

drtii · 28 July 2019, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyBahama18

Just gauging opinions here as we all know about the current market for SS Rolex sports models. The hype is now spreading to the DJ41 and with that being said do you think it’ll eventually spread to Tudor SS models (ie: black bay)?

No. Tudor doesn't have the mass brand recognition. Certain models will be hard to find, though. GMT, BB58 & P-01 come to mind.

daOnlyBG · 28 July 2019, 10:26 AM

The Tudor AD near my home quoted me a pretty long waitlist for the Tudor "Pepsi" GMT- a number well into the two-digits. Not sure if I believe it or not, but I've yet to see a Pepsi GMT in an AD showcase.

kieselguhr · 28 July 2019, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slus

Mostly I think Rolex, through skyrocketing demand and prices for their own watches, has perfectly positioned Tudor to regain it's place as the working man's Rolex. I googled for Hans Wilsdorf's original quote about founding Tudor,

You’re thinking of this

AOW

The Libertine · 28 July 2019, 10:31 AM

Tudor is definitely growing in popularity. Now, I expect it will never be a substitute for Rolex; however, there are those who look at the brand as an alternative to Rolex and will be inclined to get one.

bgmv · 28 July 2019, 11:05 AM

My Pelagos literally landed today. I bought because I honestly loved the tech and the titanium construction. It's a super functional yet beautiful watch and it's more inconspicuous. Do I put Tudor in the same class as Rolex, no, but I do think they are the leader in the mid-tier sports market with their recent rebranding... Omega never appealed to me and for those that want a Sub but can't get one they may look at Tudor as a suitable alternative.

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PeterC4 · 28 July 2019, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyBahama18

Just gauging opinions here as we all know about the current market for SS Rolex sports models. The hype is now spreading to the DJ41 and with that being said do you think it’ll eventually spread to Tudor SS models (ie: black bay)?

Rolex is hoping so.

Alimamy · 28 July 2019, 12:06 PM

Brands and groups will be looking to keep secondary prices stable. They will have an acceptable margin % of MSRP they will keep the secondary market at by controlling distribution and tracking secondary values. Everyone is aware of the global online market and have learned how to analyze it.

The Swiss watch industry remembers a few things that happened, brands going under during the "quartz crisis," overproduction and buy backs in the 90s and 2000s, and uneven prices in different markets.

Many people like to wear something that they know holds some value. A funny thing happens that when there is availability and discounts, then less watches sell.

I am thinking that's why there has been a tighter grip on the GMTs and BB58s. I expect watches from the big groups to be less available on the secondary market as they decide how to protect their branding.

I was waiting on the BB58 to trade for discount online, but it doesn't seem to work like that anymore.

John S · 31 August 2019, 11:58 PM

These two may come out on Sep 4th annuncement:

samson66 · 1 September 2019, 01:26 AM

We are well over a year since the GMT and 58 were released and they are still relatively hard to find. So yes there is some hype around Tudor. They are great watches and compliment Rolex nicely.

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Rags · 1 September 2019, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GsurgBM

Black Bay is a great watch. Try it out.

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If it wasn't for those snowflake hands I'd be all over those..

Bizcut1 · 1 September 2019, 02:11 AM

Sorry for double post.

Bizcut1 · 1 September 2019, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by samson66

We are well over a year since the GMT and 58 were released and they are still relatively hard to find. So yes there is some hype around Tudor. They are great watches and compliment Rolex nicely.

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^^^ This ^^^. My AD can't order either watch right now.

28 July 2019, 06:54 AM	#1
TommyBahama18 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Real Name: Tommy Location: NYC Watch: GMT Master II Posts: 118	Tudor Next? Just gauging opinions here as we all know about the current market for SS Rolex sports models. The hype is now spreading to the DJ41 and with that being said do you think it’ll eventually spread to Tudor SS models (ie: black bay)?

28 July 2019, 07:00 AM	#4
GsurgBM "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: USA Watch: Not enough Posts: 3,759	Black Bay is a great watch. Try it out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Rolex • Tudor • Omega • Panerai

28 July 2019, 10:26 AM	#13
daOnlyBG "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Odorious Onion Watch: yes, it's hipster Posts: 1,587	The Tudor AD near my home quoted me a pretty long waitlist for the Tudor "Pepsi" GMT- a number well into the two-digits. Not sure if I believe it or not, but I've yet to see a Pepsi GMT in an AD showcase. __________________ Here come dat boi Jerry

31 August 2019, 11:58 PM	#19
John S "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Real Name: John Location: Earth Posts: 193	Tudor next? These two may come out on Sep 4th annuncement: Attached Images __________________ Patek Philippe Calatrava 6119G, Piaget Polo Skeleton GOA45001, JLC Master Control Calendar 4148420

28 July 2019, 06:57 AM	#2
pepsiretail Banned Join Date: May 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 2,052	Tudor P-01 will skyrocket!

28 July 2019, 07:00 AM	#3
kieselguhr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Nick Location: Las Vegas Watch: 1601 Posts: 10,623	Well, the GMT and the 58 are kinda hard to come by in certain regions. All 3 S&G chronos I have seen have sold locally within a week and I have not seen them since. AOW

28 July 2019, 07:01 AM	#5
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,047	I don't think it will eventually spread...I think it already has.

28 July 2019, 07:05 AM	#6
huncho 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: nyc Posts: 6,720	hard to say. i don't think most non wis even know what tudor is. they just want a rolex because its a rolex

28 July 2019, 07:06 AM	#7
tie219 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Real Name: Troy Location: Houston, TX Watch: 16710 GMT, BBR Posts: 926	I don't think Tudor has the same brand recognition that Rolex does so no, I don't see it spreading

28 July 2019, 07:17 AM	#9
slus "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Northern CA Watch: SD4K Posts: 716	I think the market will increase a bit for some popular models among watch enthusiasts, BB58s and GMTs are already there. Mostly I think Rolex, through skyrocketing demand and prices for their own watches, has perfectly positioned Tudor to regain it's place as the working man's Rolex. I googled for Hans Wilsdorf's original quote about founding Tudor, and it actually appears right on the Tudor web site now, I don't remember seeing that a few years ago after the relaunch to the US market. Brand recognition will increase but obviously never match Rolex. “For some years now, I have been considering the idea of making a watch that our agents could sell at a more modest price than our Rolex watches, and yet one that would attain the standard of dependability for which Rolex is famous. I decided to form a separate company, with the object of making and marketing this new watch. It is called the TUDOR watch company.” - H. Wilsdorf

28 July 2019, 07:37 AM	#10
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	Tudor makes a very nice watch. I enjoy mine. Very accurate. Strong bracelet. I’m sure to get another.

28 July 2019, 08:25 AM	#11
Subconscious "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: NL Location: Canada Watch: 116610LN Posts: 80	I am waiting for the BB58 to get date function or maybe even gmt!

28 July 2019, 10:31 AM	#15
The Libertine Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Mike Location: BOS Watch: 16710;14060;214270 Posts: 6,375	Tudor is definitely growing in popularity. Now, I expect it will never be a substitute for Rolex; however, there are those who look at the brand as an alternative to Rolex and will be inclined to get one.

28 July 2019, 11:05 AM	#16
bgmv "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: FL + SG Posts: 103	My Pelagos literally landed today. I bought because I honestly loved the tech and the titanium construction. It's a super functional yet beautiful watch and it's more inconspicuous. Do I put Tudor in the same class as Rolex, no, but I do think they are the leader in the mid-tier sports market with their recent rebranding... Omega never appealed to me and for those that want a Sub but can't get one they may look at Tudor as a suitable alternative. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

28 July 2019, 12:06 PM	#18
Alimamy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: US Watch: 114060;124270 Posts: 102	Brands and groups will be looking to keep secondary prices stable. They will have an acceptable margin % of MSRP they will keep the secondary market at by controlling distribution and tracking secondary values. Everyone is aware of the global online market and have learned how to analyze it. The Swiss watch industry remembers a few things that happened, brands going under during the "quartz crisis," overproduction and buy backs in the 90s and 2000s, and uneven prices in different markets. Many people like to wear something that they know holds some value. A funny thing happens that when there is availability and discounts, then less watches sell. I am thinking that's why there has been a tighter grip on the GMTs and BB58s. I expect watches from the big groups to be less available on the secondary market as they decide how to protect their branding. I was waiting on the BB58 to trade for discount online, but it doesn't seem to work like that anymore.

1 September 2019, 01:26 AM	#20
samson66 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: Downy Ocean Hon Watch: my money leaving! Posts: 13,793	We are well over a year since the GMT and 58 were released and they are still relatively hard to find. So yes there is some hype around Tudor. They are great watches and compliment Rolex nicely. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S10 using Tapatalk

1 September 2019, 02:11 AM	#22
Bizcut1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Real Name: Ben Location: Valley of the Sun Watch: 126331 126610 3861 Posts: 3,253	Sorry for double post.

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