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14 September 2019, 06:30 PM | #1 |
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If one baulks at paying nearly double over the RRP for a Daytona. Then a solution could be found in getting another equally premium piece Pepsi / Batman then flip it and add some cash then Presto you've got your 116500 at RRP from a Grey dealer.
That's a stretch but with a little luck one could get a grail piece . What do you think guys. Better than endless imaginary waiting lists or expressions of interest. Bold moves are required for those who want , sometimes you have to flip to get to your desired piece. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 using Tapatalk |
14 September 2019, 06:35 PM | #2 |
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You’d struggle to get the GMT at retail in the first place
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14 September 2019, 07:48 PM | #4 |
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Save and buy gray, wait or buy from AD. It’s that simple.
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15 September 2019, 12:11 AM | #6 |
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I think theres a flaw in your theory
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15 September 2019, 12:17 AM | #8 |
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You need to check your sums again. Even if you managed to luck out in securing the GMTs, flipping it and add some cash (assuming the difference between GMT and Daytona RRP) won’t get you one. For one I think you overestimated the amount you would get by flipping.
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15 September 2019, 12:37 AM | #9 |
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Yes guys I am wrong no doubt about that. Anyway there's always luck for some. I believe if I cannot get at RRP then it's grey. You never know your luck it could happen but probably not. Thanks guys
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15 September 2019, 12:39 AM | #10 |
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yep
anything flippable is hard to get, therefore your odds of getting one to flip toward the other isn't much better
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Makes no sense.
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15 September 2019, 01:47 AM | #12 |
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I only have experience with my local AD and he told me that they receive fewer BLRO than Daytona. All you can do is go down to the AD and start talking and then let us know what you come up with.
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15 September 2019, 02:09 AM | #13 |
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Do let us know how that works out for you.
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15 September 2019, 02:56 AM | #16 |
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My ad has said the same.... but its because the BLRO is one watch and there are two daytonas... the BLRO and BLNR ratio to white and black daytonas seems to be pretty similar
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Let me know how that works out for you. I'd love to walk into an AD and buy a BLRO or BLNR. The AD you are shopping at doesn't happen to be on Fantasy Island does it?
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Now, if your AD called you for a BLNR and you really wanted a BLRO (or vice versa) that makes more sense. Also, digging a little deeper into this idea. Let's just say you could get a BLRO at retail, but have no shot at a daytona. You gonna sell it yourself? I have almost 10k posts and a fairly long history here, I could never compete with the DavidSWs and Takuyas of the world. So my asking price is gonna come in way lower than theirs. OR I could just sell it to one of them. Either way, that will still put you 8-10k short of a daytona. Only solution is to wait it out or pay to play. And even those who wait, whether it's 10 days or 10 years... they paid, oh... they've paid lol. |
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15 September 2019, 07:35 AM | #22 |
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Nice post Reality check I have to agree with you .Unless my cash flow changes to mega bucks level I haven't got a chance. That said shall give up or make enough to pay the Grey!! All in all you guys make a lot of sense Thanks
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Not sure how old you are, but recommend settling in for the long haul and slowly build up your collection. I think in the long run, the way things are going for the Swiss watch industry, and rise of the dominant Apple Watch, it’ll just be Rolex and Patek standing after a while brand value wise, with Tudor basically dominating like Coke Lite dominates.
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OP, you could also buy a lottery ticket, win and buy one on the grey market. The odds of a non-preffered customer getting a GMT from an AD these days is not quite as bad as lottery odds but certainly a dream.
I have bought two grey market Rolex's this year and both came out of ADs that clearly sold them directly to grey market dealers directly. Lots of games going on in this market. Can't say I blame the ADs for wanting a bigger piece. |
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15 September 2019, 06:26 PM | #26 | |
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Maybe start (like many of us did) with a model the AD has in stock, build from there up to the waiting list pieces. Relationships that can get you BLRO etc can take decades. It’s a sellers market on these pieces. An AD has to like you and TRUST you completely that you won’t flip (and you’ve already said you’d buy it to flip so a good AD will sniff you out) |
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If you need to flip to make money to buy a 2x MSRP Daytona then you shouldn't be really be spending that kind of money on a watch. If you can get a BLRO at MSRP then you're probably in line to get Daytona at MSRP. However if you're not on radar for Daytona you will unlikely be getting BLRO at MSRP either. And if your have no purchase history the chance of you getting BLRO or Daytona at MSRP is zero Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I really get you guys and I think that my original plan was very flawed. I really don't want to flip at all and I detest flipping but I was thinking about a shorter way to obtain the watch I desired. So the best way and only way apart from grey is to build up slowly a trusted relationship with an AD and obtain whatever one can get over the years and as trust develops and business takes place maybe nicer pieces will flow my way. I totally agree with other forum members who have been in the game longer and their suggestions and advice I wholeheartedly take on board. Many thanks guys for your genuine advice .I am a lot wiser for the straight talk and advice given.
The hated flipping strategy has gone out of the window. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 using Tapatalk |
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