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brandrea · 20 September 2019, 01:05 AM

Morning all. I have a business trip coming up and I'm curious to know what your travel threshold is for driving vs. flying.

I live near Toronto and I'm visiting a client in Baltimore. The drive is about 8 hours 30 minutes. To fly is 3 hours 30 minutes, not counting getting to the airport (1 hour for me) early check in etc etc. There are no direct flights ...

I'm actually thinking of doing the drive even though it's a long one.

Curious to know what my TRF brothers and sisters would do ...

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beshannon · 20 September 2019, 01:08 AM

How long do you need to be in Baltimore?
Which border crossing will you be using and have you taken into account delays both ways?
Traffic in Baltimore can be bad depending on time of day and location.

Unless I had the time to do other things along the way and at the destination I would rather fly.

locutus49 · 20 September 2019, 01:10 AM

I would fly. And then rent a car or use Uber in Balimore.

JParm · 20 September 2019, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

Morning all. I have a business trip coming up and I'm curious to know what your travel threshold is for driving vs. flying.

I live near Toronto and I'm visiting a client in Baltimore. The drive is about 8 hours 30 minutes. To fly is 3 hours 30 minutes, not counting getting to the airport (1 hour for me) early check in etc etc. There are no direct flights ...

I'm actually thinking of doing the drive even though it's a long one.

Curious to know what my TRF brothers and sisters would do ...

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In my opinion, it's worth the drive to the airport. During the time you're at the airport, you can actually catch up on work, or better yet sleep.

Having to stay attentive for 8 and half hours is no bueno for me when I can just rest and have someone else take control of transportation.

brandrea · 20 September 2019, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

How long do you need to be in Baltimore?
Which border crossing will you be using and have you taken into account delays both ways?
Traffic in Baltimore can be bad depending on time of day and location.

Unless I had the time to do other things along the way and at the destination I would rather fly.

2 hour meeting then done.
Peace Bridge in Buffalo but I have Nexus and TN work visa so no delays.

The problem is the all in travel time to fly is close to 6.5 hours when you take into account, driving to the airport, getting there 1.5-2 hour ahead (remember for me it’s international travel so you need to allow for customs clearance etc).

I’m leaning toward flying but if I can tie in another meeting along the way I might drive.

patrickjb · 20 September 2019, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

Morning all. I have a business trip coming up and I'm curious to know what your travel threshold is for driving vs. flying.

I live near Toronto and I'm visiting a client in Baltimore. The drive is about 8 hours 30 minutes. To fly is 3 hours 30 minutes, not counting getting to the airport (1 hour for me) early check in etc etc. There are no direct flights ...

I'm actually thinking of doing the drive even though it's a long one.

Curious to know what my TRF brothers and sisters would do ...

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From Boston to Newark was always my threshold - about 4 hours of driving. Otherwise, I always found it more beneficial to fly.

beshannon · 20 September 2019, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

2 hour meeting then done.
Peace Bridge in Buffalo but I have Nexus and TN work visa so no delays.

The problem is the all in travel time to fly is close to 6.5 hours when you take into account, driving to the airport, getting there 1.5-2 hour ahead (remember for me it’s international travel so you need to allow for customs clearance etc).

I’m leaning toward flying but if I can tie in another meeting along the way I might drive.

Tough call, still think I would fly

FTX I · 20 September 2019, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

A) -2 hour meeting then done.

B) The problem is the all in travel time to fly is close to 6.5 hours when you take into account, driving to the airport, getting there 1.5-2 hour ahead (remember for me it’s international travel so you need to allow for customs clearance etc).

I'd fly buddy. No question.
A) short stay with nothing else to do.
B) But you're not the one 'driving' the vehicle.

Chewbacca · 20 September 2019, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

Morning all. I have a business trip coming up and I'm curious to know what your travel threshold is for driving vs. flying.

I live near Toronto and I'm visiting a client in Baltimore. The drive is about 8 hours 30 minutes. To fly is 3 hours 30 minutes, not counting getting to the airport (1 hour for me) early check in etc etc. There are no direct flights ...

I'm actually thinking of doing the drive even though it's a long one.

Curious to know what my TRF brothers and sisters would do ...

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Over 5hrs drive for biz requires a flight and rental car or car share hire.

For pleasure I can go 10 - 12 hrs a day depending on whether I have the fam with.

Maybe fly to the closest direct flight airport and drive to Baltimore. I've done MD, VA, DC, runs and there at least one direct route from Toronto. I've even got friends who fly out of Buffalo to DC to have wings and pizza on the way back.

There are options Tbone! Find them.

Langnam · 20 September 2019, 02:17 AM

Dude,
Canada to Baltimore? International borders? I 95 corridor?

Airplane all the way.

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austinp · 20 September 2019, 02:32 AM

For work 6 hrs is my threshold. Ill drive that far at the drop of a hat.

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brandrea · 20 September 2019, 03:22 AM

Thank everyone ... still sorting this one out but appreciate all the replies

Ferdelious · 20 September 2019, 03:30 AM

It all depends on the drive and if I can get a direct flight to the destination. I have a customer in Montgomery, AL, about a 7.5 hour dive but it beats the hassle of flying because layovers. However, I would not drive 7 hours to Atlanta because it takes an hour to fly there direct with plenty of flight options.

But 8 hours would be my limit on driving.

RW16610 · 20 September 2019, 06:30 AM

8.5 hours there and 8.5 hours back could be brutal depending on the traffic you encounter. Most typically take smaller airlines like Porter for this sort of thing and it saves you a lot of hassle. Unless the cost is significantly more to fly there on the aforementioned and rent a car once you're in the city I say flying is the way to go.

At the end of the day though anything you decide that gets you there (on time) and back safely is good. I just think 8.5 hours on the road each way sounds very stressful to me.

The Libertine · 20 September 2019, 06:39 AM

5 hours or less is what I am comfortable with for driving vs. flying for business trip.

quakeroatmeal · 20 September 2019, 06:42 AM

I fly from NJ to Cleveland often. I used to drive, it was about 7 hours.

The flight is about an hour.

I find the whole thing to be mostly relaxing because on the plan and at the airport I can relax and read, whereas if I'm driving the most I can do is listen to audiobooks or podcasts.

But if I factor in getting to the airport, security etc, I'm probably only saving about 1-2 hours.

Not to mention Cleveland tends to have lots and lots of delays...

Anything over 7 hours I wouldn't even consider driving it.

Old Geezer · 20 September 2019, 08:44 AM

4 hours was my tipping point. If you fly you, can rest or work versus having to be alert the whole time driving.

CalSRQ1 · 20 September 2019, 09:38 AM

I live in Florida and have thought about this often.....wouldn’t consider flying if less than a 5 hr drive. At least not fly commercial....private is another matter!

othertbone · 20 September 2019, 10:32 AM

For the day, fly, a few days drive. Thats just me

TheVTCGuy · 20 September 2019, 10:56 AM

It’s funny, there was actually a mythbusters episode that had this challenge, although they did it by miles. For a (I think) 350 mile trip, one team drove, the other took a flight. They factored in the trip to the airport, arriving an hour before your check in time, checking a bag, retrieving it (obviously) at the arriving airport, getting a rental car etc.

The flying team won the challenge by less then 20 minutes.

The conclusion was if it is 400 miles or more, fly. If less, drive.

I am not necessarily agreeing with these numbers, that was just their finding.

PS. Take me with you.

CamSLC · 21 September 2019, 12:34 AM

Depends on the car. 95 Honda, Fly. 2015+ German, Drive.

Only been to Baltimore once, from the west coast. I flew into DC and drove up. It was actually an easy drive but it's been years.

If I was in your shoes I would fly, all the downtime in the airport and on the plane can be put to good use. The most productive thing you can do in the car is a podcast, which you could also do in the airport.

Josh1000 · 21 September 2019, 12:39 AM

I am a bad example...I flew to Niagara from Toronto!!

psv · 21 September 2019, 12:42 AM

If there isn't a direct flight to Baltimore, is there one to Dulles Airport in Virginia (IAD), or perhaps one to Reagan (DCA) or Philadelphia? All those airports are an hour drive to Baltimore.

tyler1980 · 21 September 2019, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

Morning all. I have a business trip coming up and I'm curious to know what your travel threshold is for driving vs. flying.

I live near Toronto and I'm visiting a client in Baltimore. The drive is about 8 hours 30 minutes. To fly is 3 hours 30 minutes, not counting getting to the airport (1 hour for me) early check in etc etc. There are no direct flights ...

I'm actually thinking of doing the drive even though it's a long one.

Curious to know what my TRF brothers and sisters would do ...

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fly always... even if the time is relatively close what isn't comparable is you are riding vs you are driving.

Driving all day wears me out and flying doesnt. If i want to get to where i am going at 100% i fly. Plus you can be productive on the journey if you are not driving

GB-man · 21 September 2019, 12:51 AM

I would fly direct from buffalo if you fly at all.

I personally like to drive and hate to fly so easy choice for me. I drive to DC all the time to see family. 6 hours from here.

brandrea · 21 September 2019, 12:54 AM

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I would fly direct from buffalo if you fly at all.

I personally like to drive and hate to fly so easy choice for me. I drive to DC all the time to see family. 6 hours from here.

I hear you. I guess time wise for me it's a wash so I'm going to drive and make a stop in PA along the way

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Art 1 · 21 September 2019, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

Morning all. I have a business trip coming up and I'm curious to know what your travel threshold is for driving vs. flying.

I live near Toronto and I'm visiting a client in Baltimore. The drive is about 8 hours 30 minutes. To fly is 3 hours 30 minutes, not counting getting to the airport (1 hour for me) early check in etc etc. There are no direct flights ...

I'm actually thinking of doing the drive even though it's a long one.

Curious to know what my TRF brothers and sisters would do ...

I would fly Brian.

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I would fly Brian.

Art 1 · 21 September 2019, 01:24 AM

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I hear you. I guess time wise for me it's a wash so I'm going to drive and make a stop in PA along the way

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I drove back from that area a few months ago and stopped in Pittsburgh. It wasn’t bad. I have to fly to Texas early Sunday so going to stay at the Toronto airport Saturday night.

GB-man · 21 September 2019, 01:34 AM

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I hear you. I guess time wise for me it's a wash so I'm going to drive and make a stop in PA along the way

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Enjoy your trip

brandrea · 21 September 2019, 01:36 AM

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Enjoy your trip

Thanks brother

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20 September 2019, 01:05 AM	#1
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,135	<<< business travelers query >>> Morning all. I have a business trip coming up and I'm curious to know what your travel threshold is for driving vs. flying. I live near Toronto and I'm visiting a client in Baltimore. The drive is about 8 hours 30 minutes. To fly is 3 hours 30 minutes, not counting getting to the airport (1 hour for me) early check in etc etc. There are no direct flights ... I'm actually thinking of doing the drive even though it's a long one. Curious to know what my TRF brothers and sisters would do ... Sent from my SM-G960W using Tapatalk

20 September 2019, 01:08 AM	#2
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	How long do you need to be in Baltimore? Which border crossing will you be using and have you taken into account delays both ways? Traffic in Baltimore can be bad depending on time of day and location. Unless I had the time to do other things along the way and at the destination I would rather fly. __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

20 September 2019, 02:17 AM	#10
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20 September 2019, 03:30 AM	#13
Ferdelious 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Matt Location: Tampa, FL Watch: Hulk/SD4K/SeaQ/P39 Posts: 3,203	It all depends on the drive and if I can get a direct flight to the destination. I have a customer in Montgomery, AL, about a 7.5 hour dive but it beats the hassle of flying because layovers. However, I would not drive 7 hours to Atlanta because it takes an hour to fly there direct with plenty of flight options. But 8 hours would be my limit on driving. __________________ Why is it, "A penny for your thoughts," but, "you have to put your two cents in?" Somebody's making a penny.

21 September 2019, 12:51 AM	#25
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	I would fly direct from buffalo if you fly at all. I personally like to drive and hate to fly so easy choice for me. I drive to DC all the time to see family. 6 hours from here. __________________

20 September 2019, 01:10 AM	#3
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	I would fly. And then rent a car or use Uber in Balimore.

20 September 2019, 02:32 AM	#11
austinp "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: us Posts: 3,393	For work 6 hrs is my threshold. Ill drive that far at the drop of a hat. Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk

20 September 2019, 03:22 AM	#12
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,135	Thank everyone ... still sorting this one out but appreciate all the replies

20 September 2019, 06:30 AM	#14
RW16610 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Rommel Location: Toronto Canada Watch: 116710LN Posts: 9,205	8.5 hours there and 8.5 hours back could be brutal depending on the traffic you encounter. Most typically take smaller airlines like Porter for this sort of thing and it saves you a lot of hassle. Unless the cost is significantly more to fly there on the aforementioned and rent a car once you're in the city I say flying is the way to go. At the end of the day though anything you decide that gets you there (on time) and back safely is good. I just think 8.5 hours on the road each way sounds very stressful to me.

20 September 2019, 06:39 AM	#15
The Libertine Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Mike Location: BOS Watch: 16710;14060;214270 Posts: 6,375	5 hours or less is what I am comfortable with for driving vs. flying for business trip.

20 September 2019, 06:42 AM	#16
quakeroatmeal "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: NY Watch: Mickey Watch Posts: 488	I fly from NJ to Cleveland often. I used to drive, it was about 7 hours. The flight is about an hour. I find the whole thing to be mostly relaxing because on the plan and at the airport I can relax and read, whereas if I'm driving the most I can do is listen to audiobooks or podcasts. But if I factor in getting to the airport, security etc, I'm probably only saving about 1-2 hours. Not to mention Cleveland tends to have lots and lots of delays... Anything over 7 hours I wouldn't even consider driving it.

20 September 2019, 08:44 AM	#17
Old Geezer "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: South Carolina Posts: 5,287	4 hours was my tipping point. If you fly you, can rest or work versus having to be alert the whole time driving.

20 September 2019, 09:38 AM	#18
CalSRQ1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Real Name: Chris Location: Florida USA Watch: 5513 Posts: 719	I live in Florida and have thought about this often.....wouldn’t consider flying if less than a 5 hr drive. At least not fly commercial....private is another matter!

20 September 2019, 10:32 AM	#19
othertbone Banned Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Florida, USA Watch: Rolex/AP/Vin Omega Posts: 1,972	For the day, fly, a few days drive. Thats just me

20 September 2019, 10:56 AM	#20
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	It’s funny, there was actually a mythbusters episode that had this challenge, although they did it by miles. For a (I think) 350 mile trip, one team drove, the other took a flight. They factored in the trip to the airport, arriving an hour before your check in time, checking a bag, retrieving it (obviously) at the arriving airport, getting a rental car etc. The flying team won the challenge by less then 20 minutes. The conclusion was if it is 400 miles or more, fly. If less, drive. I am not necessarily agreeing with these numbers, that was just their finding. PS. Take me with you.

21 September 2019, 12:34 AM	#21
CamSLC "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Watch: Rolex & Patek Posts: 1,436	Depends on the car. 95 Honda, Fly. 2015+ German, Drive. Only been to Baltimore once, from the west coast. I flew into DC and drove up. It was actually an easy drive but it's been years. If I was in your shoes I would fly, all the downtime in the airport and on the plane can be put to good use. The most productive thing you can do in the car is a podcast, which you could also do in the airport.

21 September 2019, 12:39 AM	#22
Josh1000 Banned Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 505	I am a bad example...I flew to Niagara from Toronto!!

21 September 2019, 12:42 AM	#23
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	If there isn't a direct flight to Baltimore, is there one to Dulles Airport in Virginia (IAD), or perhaps one to Reagan (DCA) or Philadelphia? All those airports are an hour drive to Baltimore.

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