Rolex Tudors all fakes?

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I am sometimes amused by the vehemence that some posters exhibit in denying the relationship between Rolex and Tudor. Maybe it’s a cultural thing – in the US Tudor is not sold while in other countries like Canada where I grew up, every Rolex AD prominently and equally displays the Tudor logo on the storefront.

I have particularly noted some labelling all Rolex/Tudor branded watches are fakes… i.e: if Tudor and Rolex appear on the same dial – “it must be a fake”… and therefore all the examples of vintage Rolex with Rolex/Tudor branding out there must be fakes or at least redone dials.

I wonder what Rolex and Tudor say about this? The Tudor official website (www.tudorwatches.com) is quite clear: “A few rare models associated the name TUDOR with Rolex, corresponding to the fact that Rolex originally guaranteed the technical and aesthetic quality of TUDOR, which the brand later went on to develop autonomously.” (BTW, the deniers will probably say you can’t believe a Tudor website, but I would like to point out Tudor is a Rolex company and the website and all 180 worldwide Tudor websites are published and administered by Rolex at [email protected])

Further, if Rolex Tudor watches never existed, why would a 1947 Rolex & Tudor catalogue from Rolex Watch Co. of Canada display 23 models of co-branded watches, both Rolex/Tudor and Tudor/Rolex? (see below)

Also, I notice the contention that Rolex watch could not have a Tudor branding as the Tudor brand was not launched by Wilsdorf until 1946 and no Tudor would therefore be older than that. In fact the Tudor name was first registered by a Geneva watch company in 1906 (before Rolex, and some say by a friend of Wilsdorf). Another friend acquired the rights in 1926 and they were transferred to Wilsdorf in 1936. Rolex made and sold Tudor branded watches in the 20’s and 30’s (see a 1935 Tudor below, again per the Tudor website).
So, does anybody have anything from the Rolex company which refutes their published statements and advertising that confirm the existence of co-branded watches?... I would love to see it.