Clasp Detective... Answers......

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A few weeks ago we had 5 examples of clasps that may, or may not have been authentic.. These were all clasps that friends of mine have had and asked me to take a look at - so, be careful..

Here is the link so you can see what you thought initially:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=125157

Here are the answers

Clasp 1
This clasp is completely fake:
1) you can see that the Swiss Made are run together with out a space
2)The crown on this one isn't too bad and the scroll work is OK, but the crown points are just long lines down to a circle
3) Date and Steelinox stampings are made from the same stamper, likely at the same time... and that isn't normal.
4) This one is stamped as a Sub bracelet for a TT Oyster Flip-lock watch (93153-18), but you can see the clasp is the Oysterlock style and on a SS Jubilee bracelet (should be 62510)


Clasp 2
This clasp is the real Deal and on an authentic Rolex watch.
1) You can see that Swiss Made are two words
2) Crown is a distinct crown with oval and head-cap clear. Also, scroll work is proper
3) Stampings are proper with Steelinox at initial manufacture, and then the date and part number stamps slightly lighter and stamped at a separate machine.


Clasp 3
This is an authentic clasp from almost 30 years ago.
1) Crown is worn and scrolling is showing it's age, but it is all proper
2) While stamped at an earlier era, it can be seen that the initial stamp is from one machine, then the model and date are from a different run - proper
3) G code is proper from ~1982


Clasp 4
This is another authentic clasp
1) Clasp code is authentic and fresh
2) 93150 is proper for a Sub flip-lock, and the fliplock can be seen at the top


Clasp 5
Total Fake here
1) No space on Swiss Made and the font is a bit more cramped than usually seen
2) Crown is poorly stamped and you can see a circle at the bottom rather than an oval
3) Scroll is improper with the scroll curved end under the non curved stamp line on both sides of the crown; these should be above on one side and below on the other (see the real one)
4) Again, all the date and part number stampings are at the same time with the same machine.
5) This one has a part number that is scrambled - 93520 doesn't exist
6) Also, a part number ending in "0" would be SS, and this appears to be a TT bracelet so the number should be 93253-18. The 18 designates part of an 18k assembly.