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22 August 2011, 05:16 PM | #1 |
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Change or Alteration or modification of Case Engravings
Err Buddies...Orchi has just came across the existence of this matter...
after noticing it from the recent watch listings in VRM n likewise in TRF... Orchi has no dealings with the Seller before... apart from knowing that he sells regularly in VRF n TRF... n that he is known to be a reputable n good Seller... Perhaps he too may not be aware of the issue on the 1680 watch... which he has listed for sale... Perhaps others may not have noticed it in VRM or TRF... but Orchi feels that this issue should be highlighted for discussion... hopefully to gain extra understanding for others n Orchi too... Nevertheless Orchi can't be sure about the history of the watch in discussion here... Orchi hopes the Seller might be able to chip in his opinions on the subject matter that Orchi is raising here as well... Here are some pictures of Original Case engravings(factory) taken from a couple of normal 1680 Sub watches for comparisons... The general conditions n appearance of the machine tool marks are consistent... to normal the wear n tear elements...on such vintage watches. (One of the 1680 Sub is also being listed by the same Seller n another one belonging to Orchi) Here's a couple of pics taken from the Seller's listings... showing the Case engravings between the lugs... on the 1680 Sub(S/Nos. 5.70mil)... Firstly...you would see that the types of engraved fonts on the 1680 Sub S/nos. 5.70mil are different by comparison with the normal 1680 Subs above...which are in quite close range of case series... For Orchi that is...these engraving fonts do not look consistent with those... that would have been done originally.... Here are the tell tale signs which Orchi had relied on to have notice that... the Case Engravings on the 1680 Sub with S/nos. 5.70mil... may have been changed or altered... especially so...when the conditions n appearance of the machine tool marks on this particular case... are inconsistent to the normal elements of wear n tear... n the present engravings between the lugs... are looking somewhat...FRESH...so to speak. Of course Orchi is not aiming to say that the Seller in this case had anything to do with it...certainly not. But Orchi is asking whether such a change or alteration(if any) could have been done Rolex service or perhaps done by outside party...? How about the opinions of others in here...? Have you seen such change or alteration of S/nos. before...? It would be interesting to check inside the CB to see if there is any... service markings which might indicate a another set of S/nos... was used before... that might tell a bit clearly on the history of the watch... |
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