Ebay seller "Estate Finds"

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I intentionally bought 4 watches for thousands of dollars from this guy in order to prevent others from being scammed. Here are our messages back and forth. Start from the bottom with message 1.

MESSAGE 10 BELOW

Cancel my bids. I don't believe anybody at ebay told you this since it's a direct violation of their policies. Can you imagine what would happen if ebay, or any legitimate establishment for that matter, allowed people to sell watches or sunglasses or Gucci shoes for thousands of dollars as long as they put a disclaimer in such as yours? Ridiculous. What you're doing is immoral, unethical and illegal and the fact that you are doing this so close to Christmas should make you especially ashamed of yourself.

MESSAGE 9 BELOW

I live an hour and a half from a Rolex dealer and don’t have the time to take the or I would of already done it and possibly collected more cash. I talk to eBay the told me I was legal that I did not force anyone to bid and I told the truth at the beginning. But if your threatening me with the law and everything else you stated I just assume keep them and when I do get a chance to get to a Rolex store I will trade up to something nicer for myself. You saw the description why would you bid on something you are not sure of if you were not willing to gamble the hulk watch alone at Rolex is 35k it’s a risk I understand cause I did it when I bought them if your will to takeout

MESSAGE 8 BELOW

You can go to a watch shop tomorrow and get them authenticated. Then I could pay tomorrow. You'd rather lose out on the sale of four watches and find yourself in this same predicament in the next auction? That doesn't make sense.

MESSAGE 7 BELOW

Don’t pay then cause I’m not willing to take the chance I have told everyone from the beginning I can’t authenticate them including eBay after I was reported I don’t know if they are real or not and the pawn shop could not tell the difference. I will cancel all your orders.

MESSAGE 6 BELOW

Okay, I'll pay for the watches when I get home tonight. However, I plan to take the unopened packages directly to a Rolex dealer and if they are not authentic I will file for a refund since you are 1. Not allowed to sell fakes on ebay 2. Not allowed to put authenticity caveats like you did in your listings on ebay. If, for some reason, ebay doesn't give me a refund I will file a chargeback on my credit card. Furthermore, I will not be returning any fakes to you. I will be handing them over to the authorities and filing charges against you for mail fraud. You are liable for selling fakes in the same way you would be liable for selling stolen goods. Whether or not you knew the goods were stolen or counterfeit is irrelevant unless you can prove that a reasonable person would not otherwise know those goods were stolen or counterfeit.

Would you please make sure the watches arrive before Christmas? They're gifts. Happy holidays.

MESSAGE 5 BELOW

No I’m not taking returns. I purchased them the same way I’m selling them. We got see pictures of what was in the lot then everyone put in a blind bid and the highest bidder won. No returns authenticity not guaranteed. But at the same time we got a chance at buying a $20k watch for 2k. It is a gamble but it’s a gamble I’ve been happy with so far. This was in the description if you are one of the winners of the auction we need to know if you are going to follow through cause I do have a lot of people behind you that will take the chance at getting 10k to 30k watch for half or in some cases 1/4 of the price that you would pay at the store.

MESSAGE 4 BELOW

I asked because you have a no return policy. If I bring these to a Rolex dealer and they're declared counterfeit, what do we do then? I assume I would be able to return them, correct?


MESSAGE 3 BELOW

No in the description I wrote I can not authenticate these watches. I purchased them from an estate sale we bought a 16k sqft house a Rolex lot jewelry lot and a lot of shotguns my partners kept what we wanted and put the rest on eBay this is why I started them so low the rose gold watch alone new is around 90k but I got a good deal so I tried to pass it along I’m not a jeweler I’m in real estate I do own a Rolex i got at a Rolex store in Vegas and I can’t tell the difference. I did take1 to a pawn shop and they offered me 1k for it but they are always low. They are sold as is. They are all beautiful I just have not been able to get the backs off to see what kind of mechanism I do know they are all self winding as soon as you pick one up the start running. If your not going to pay let me know I have had multiple other offers


MESSAGE 2

I won a few of your watches. Are you sure they are authentic?


MESSAGE 1

Hi BUYER,

Thanks for your business! I am ready to ship the following item: Rolex Oyster Submariner Mens Green Hulk 40MM estate find just in time for Xmas US $8,850

Unfortunately, I can't ship the above until I've received a payment. Can you please let me know when I can expect a payment?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thanks!