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xrole · 16 January 2020, 10:52 PM

Hi guys. So, my colleague has an older Rolex and I have never seen anything like it before. It's a 'Rolex Oysterdate Precision' with the serial code 78350 19 engraved on the back and the face has a lovely blue and white colour. I have Googled and I can't seem to find any other information about it!

Can anyone help me please? :)

Pics below (that I took today):

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offrdmania · 16 January 2020, 10:57 PM

It has 19mm lugs so most likely its a 34mm watch. The dial and hands are aftermarket garbage. Most likely its a model 6694 manual wind watch. Sellers modify this model all the time because aftermarket parts are so plentiful. Thats why you cant find anything on Google because it never left the Rolex factory in this configuration.
78350 is the bracelet model.

beshannon · 16 January 2020, 10:57 PM

There are several things that make me question its authenticity.

I am not an expert however.

padi56 · 16 January 2020, 11:00 PM

In horology terms today a California dial refers to a dial face that consists of half Roman and half Arabic markers.Now this style dial dates back to the 1930s when Panerai used it on there Marina Militare and divers watches.Now some of these watches were refurbished by a company based in California using this style of dial hence now the so called California dials.Rolex made some watches with California dials and I believe there were some genuine Tudors with the California dial but made for the then at that time commonwealth market only.But most you see today on places like Ebay are re-finished dials and did not start like that from factory and the posters watch is a refinished dial.
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xrole · 16 January 2020, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by offrdmania

It has 19mm lugs so most likely its a 34mm watch. The dial and hands are aftermarket garbage. Most likely its a model 6694 manual wind watch. Sellers modify this model all the time because aftermarket parts are so plentiful. Thats why you cant find anything on Google because it never left the Rolex factory in this configuration.
78350 is the bracelet model.

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Originally Posted by padi56

In horology terms today a California dial refers to a dial face that consists of half Roman and half Arabic markers.Now this style dial dates back to the 1930s when Panerai used it on there Marina Militare and divers watches.Now some of these watches were refurbished by a company based in California using this style of dial hence now the so called California dials.Rolex made some watches with California dials and I believe there were some genuine Tudors with the California dial but made for the then at that time commonwealth market only.But most you see today on places like Ebay are re-finished dials and did not start like that from factory and the posters watch is a refinished dial.
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Ahhhh I see, thanks guys. I asked the person and they said that the person they were given it by said that the outer glass was smashed some time ago, so I am guessing that this was likely when it was given a new cosmetic. I have no idea if the rest of the watch in general is authentic or not.

Thanks for clarifying, it makes sense now as to why I can't find it. :)

doogan · 17 January 2020, 12:15 AM

Out of curiosity, is a 78350 bracelet different from a 7835?

doogan · 17 January 2020, 12:18 AM

A quick search answered my own question. 78350 is solid links and 7835 folded over...

Richard Carver · 17 January 2020, 12:46 AM

The dial is a repaint and another consideration is that it may have been a Tudor that got promoted by the redailer. :) Very common on eBay specials. Have the case back pulled to confirm it's a Rolex.

offrdmania · 17 January 2020, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard Carver

The dial is a repaint and another consideration is that it may have been a Tudor that got promoted by the redailer. :) Very common on eBay specials. Have the case back pulled to confirm it's a Rolex.

A tudor would be engraved on the outside of the case back. The OPs looks like a 6694 case back with the bulbous shape.

Here is the back of a 6694

Richard Carver · 17 January 2020, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by offrdmania

A tudor would be engraved on the outside of the case back. The OPs looks like a 6694 case back with the bulbous shape.

Here is the back of a 6694

As we know, case backs are not sacrosanct. :) Checking the movement is just common sense with an unknown watch.

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offrdmania 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,999	It has 19mm lugs so most likely its a 34mm watch. The dial and hands are aftermarket garbage. Most likely its a model 6694 manual wind watch. Sellers modify this model all the time because aftermarket parts are so plentiful. Thats why you cant find anything on Google because it never left the Rolex factory in this configuration. 78350 is the bracelet model. __________________ TRF Member 11738

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beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	There are several things that make me question its authenticity. I am not an expert however. __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

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padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,064	In horology terms today a California dial refers to a dial face that consists of half Roman and half Arabic markers.Now this style dial dates back to the 1930s when Panerai used it on there Marina Militare and divers watches.Now some of these watches were refurbished by a company based in California using this style of dial hence now the so called California dials.Rolex made some watches with California dials and I believe there were some genuine Tudors with the California dial but made for the then at that time commonwealth market only.But most you see today on places like Ebay are re-finished dials and did not start like that from factory and the posters watch is a refinished dial. __________________ __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

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17 January 2020, 12:15 AM	#6
doogan "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 148	Out of curiosity, is a 78350 bracelet different from a 7835?

17 January 2020, 12:18 AM	#7
doogan "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 148	A quick search answered my own question. 78350 is solid links and 7835 folded over...

17 January 2020, 12:46 AM	#8
Richard Carver "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: US Posts: 2,237	The dial is a repaint and another consideration is that it may have been a Tudor that got promoted by the redailer. :) Very common on eBay specials. Have the case back pulled to confirm it's a Rolex.

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